Do you stay home with your kids or work?

It is definitely harder when both parents work to juggle everything. I don't sit down most nights until after the kids go to bed. I know SAHMs are working during the day too, but I feel like I have two jobs. As soon as I get home I need to accomplish all the chores that the SAHMs are doing during the day like cooking, cleaning, laundry etc. I like working and I need the money, so my goal is to make enough to afford a nanny and a cook and a housekeeper. I need someone like Alice on The Brady Bunch.
 
Yeah, but what would you do if it was your DH telling you that you should be working and not just the "everyone else" out there?

If ever DH even hinted at me working, then I would. That would obviously mean something wasn't right in the equation.
 
If ever DH even hinted at me working, then I would. That would obviously mean something wasn't right in the equation.

Okay, so this is what the OP's husband has told her to do. Do you still think that she shouldn't listen to everyone?
 

I admit that I don't understand why moms would work if they didn't HAVE to. I don't believe at all that kids are better off at home vs. going to daycare or whatever (DD loves hers, and they certainly do more activities than I could think of!). It's just HARD to juggle two full-time jobs and a family

Not singling you out, but since you mentioned this I wanted to touch on it. I work and don't have to, and would, no matter what. I feel strongly that both people in a couple should work if they are physically/mentally able. And then both should clean and cook too - to me, it's part of the partnership with each other. We work hard together - outside of the house and in. And there is never any resentment, or feeling 'indebted' to the other, that I know I, personally, would feel if one or the other did not work. Would it be easier if one of us stayed home, sure. (It would be a LOT easier since DH works weird shifts, nights, etc.) But, easy isnt really the lesson I am trying to teach my kids or a goal in my life.

To answer the OP's question I work full-time out of the home.:thumbsup2
 
Not singling you out, but since you mentioned this I wanted to touch on it. I work and don't have to, and would, no matter what. I feel strongly that both people in a couple should work if they are physically/mentally able. And then both should clean and cook too - to me, it's part of the partnership with each other. We work hard together - outside of the house and in. And there is never any resentment, or feeling 'indebted' to the other, that I know I, personally, would feel if one or the other did not work. Would it be easier if one of us stayed home, sure. (It would be a LOT easier since DH works weird shifts, nights, etc.) But, easy isnt really the lesson I am trying to teach my kids or a goal in my life.

Great post!

I probably don't have to work either. If I were WAY more frugal, of course I could make it work. I also don't believe that you have to *have* things to make your children happy. But it is just not a way I want to live. My husband would never make enough for us to vacation once a year or do any of the other things we enjoy.

But the bottom line is that, as a woman, I really don't want to EVER be solely dependent on anyone else for my survival. I think that it is truly wonderful that many woman can place 100% of their trust in their spouse to carry the load, but I have just seen too many bad things happen to women who do not work and I could never put myself in that position. I don't think my spouse is going to leave me at every turn but I just don't want 20 years to go by, something happens and, degree or not, I have no skills.

It can be fairly difficult to get into the workplace at 40 with no experience and make enough money to live on. I just don't ever want to be in that position. I also want to make sure the *I* can save for my retirement. It's hard enough for one person to save for retirement but to have one person save for two retirements! Whew!!! Of course there are people out there who make a ton of money and can do this, but it's not the norm.
 
. Unfortunately when it comes to this choice as a mom (and breastfeeding, but I won't go there) people tend to put down the choices that others make, probably to justify their own choices and make them feel better.

Ding, Ding, Ding, we have a winner.
 
Great post!

I probably don't have to work either. If I were WAY more frugal, of course I could make it work. I also don't believe that you have to *have* things to make your children happy. But it is just not a way I want to live. My husband would never make enough for us to vacation once a year or do any of the other things we enjoy.

But the bottom line is that, as a woman, I really don't want to EVER be solely dependent on anyone else for my survival. I think that it is truly wonderful that many woman can place 100% of their trust in their spouse to carry the load, but I have just seen too many bad things happen to women who do not work and I could never put myself in that position. I don't think my spouse is going to leave me at every turn but I just don't want 20 years to go by, something happens and, degree or not, I have no skills.

It can be fairly difficult to get into the workplace at 40 with no experience and make enough money to live on. I just don't ever want to be in that position. I also want to make sure the *I* can save for my retirement. It's hard enough for one person to save for retirement but to have one person save for two retirements! Whew!!! Of course there are people out there who make a ton of money and can do this, but it's not the norm.

You do know that it is possible to have skills without being employed every moment, don't you? :snooty: Most mothers spend time as SAHMs and WOHMs during their child-rearing years.
 
Great post!

I probably don't have to work either. If I were WAY more frugal, of course I could make it work. I also don't believe that you have to *have* things to make your children happy. But it is just not a way I want to live. My husband would never make enough for us to vacation once a year or do any of the other things we enjoy.

But the bottom line is that, as a woman, I really don't want to EVER be solely dependent on anyone else for my survival. I think that it is truly wonderful that many woman can place 100% of their trust in their spouse to carry the load, but I have just seen too many bad things happen to women who do not work and I could never put myself in that position. I don't think my spouse is going to leave me at every turn but I just don't want 20 years to go by, something happens and, degree or not, I have no skills.

It can be fairly difficult to get into the workplace at 40 with no experience and make enough money to live on. I just don't ever want to be in that position. I also want to make sure the *I* can save for my retirement. It's hard enough for one person to save for retirement but to have one person save for two retirements! Whew!!! Of course there are people out there who make a ton of money and can do this, but it's not the norm.

Thanks for touching on some great points I missed - and I have to "Great Post" you back!:thumbsup2

I have seen the bolded part happen over and over - even here on the DIS, and they never expect it...who does? :confused3 But, even without that, I need to feel I've made MY way in the world - sharing that feeling w/ DH is even better - he loves bringing home the bacon too! And, yes, having more 'bacon' is nice, but for me, the feeling of pride is priceless. (I have pride in our relationship, our kids, our shared mutual respect, our housekeeping, etc. etc. too.) :)
 
I stay home with my kids, and my kids are somewhat grown. I love the "job" of being a full-time home/family manager, and I'm fortunate that my huband has an income which allows me to make this choice. It works great for our family.

If God forbid we ever divorce, I have a nice stash to keep me comfortable.
 
I have seen a number of my son's classmate's mothers try to go back to work once all of the children are in school and they all had to start over at the bottom after being out of the workforce for 5 to 10 years. Most of them couldn't even go back to the same profession they were in before children because they were competing with new college grads. So it is unrealistic to think you will take so many years off and then just step back in. Then when they do get jobs, they are entry level and few of their colleagues have to deal with children at night, so they don't understand when moms need off for school plays or baseball games.
 
I have seen a number of my son's classmate's mother try to go back to work once all of the children are in school and they all had to start over at the bottom after being out of the workforce for 5 to 10 years. Most of them couldn't even go back to the same profession they were in before children because they were competing with new college grads. So it is unrealistic to think you will take so many years off and then just step back in. Then when they do get jobs, they are entry level and few of their colleagues have to deal with children at night, so they don't understand when moms need off for school plays or baseball games.

And I've seen the opposite far more often. I guess it depends what you are looking for.:)
 
You do know that it is possible to have skills without being employed every moment, don't you? :snooty: Most mothers spend time as SAHMs and WOHMs during their child-rearing years.

Possibly.

The scenario I'm addressing is the women who are totally out of the workforce for 15 years. I am in the workforce I can see first-hand that they are generally not picked up. And if they are picked up, they are starting all over again. Now there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with that, but if something where to happen (divorce, death, etc), the starting positions in most places aren't going to pay the rent and the bills. I just don't ever want to be in that position. I've seen it enough first-hand to know it happens an too often.
 
You do know that it is possible to have skills without being employed every moment, don't you? :snooty: Most mothers spend time as SAHMs and WOHMs during their child-rearing years.

As someone who has spent time working in HR and as a recruiter, I have to respond to this...

The harsh reality is that, all other things being equal, prospective employers prefer to have someone with a recent, stable work history rather than one with a large gap, regardless of the reason.
Yes, this is completely unfair, unjust, wrong...call it what you want. But its reality for a lot of industries whether they admit to it or not.
Yes, you can spend time doing community work, be the treasurer of the PTA, volunteer at school, but depending on the industry you may want to work in, it probably will not be enough.
Think about it - if you were hiring someone, say to do your taxes, would you want the person that did them last year, or the person fresh off a 5 year break that read books at home to keep current. Who would you want handling administrative things in your office if you were the boss - someone that has recent experience or the person that doesn't know how to use Lotus Notes or Outlook because there was no such thing the last time they were in an office environment?
I am not saying this happens all of the time, and believe me, I'm expecting lots of replies from people that took 12 years off and jumped back into work with no problem to prove me wrong. But the reality is, as a recruiter, if I have 2 resumes in my hand and one persons most recent job ended in 2008 and the other was 2003, who do you think I'm calling first?
I don't care what ANYONE says...it is HARD pick up where you left off career wise if you leave for an extended period of time. And like I said before, yes it sucks, yes its wrong, no, raising your kids should not disqualify you from a prospective job, but yes, it happens every day. It's probably why so many women end up changing careers once they have kids - because they completely have to start over.
Just something to think about...
 
:thumbsup2 I also work full time, am PTA treasurer, run many events at school, am a girl scout leader and am at every single sporting event, concert, etc that my daughter has.
Yep, I do all those things too, and it's been wonderful for our family. We've been fortunate to get to know so many of our daughter's friends' parents, and we've been very involved in their activities over the years. Now that mine are teens, we're letting go a bit and letting them take part in more activities on their own. It's been hard for us to do that, but it's age-appropriate; after all, the oldest will be heading to college in only three years, and we certainly want her to have had experiences with independence in safe situations before she heads out to live in a dorm!
Uh oh. I guess I better tell my son we need to take his braces off, we have to sell our house (with a yard ;) ) and move into an apartment, our Disney vacation is off, neither of of them can go to summer camp they've been looking forward to for months, and our summer vacation to a historical site is off. :lmao::lmao:

Not all families that have a SAHM are poor. :confused3

ETA: For the poster that mentioned one income families are usually buried in debt, the only debt we have is our car loan and our mortgage. :)
Good for you, but surely you know that everyone isn't managing so well -- especially in light of our country's recent economic climate. Just take a look over at the Budget Board on this site, and you'll find questions/answers concerning LOTS of families who are having trouble with basics like groceries, insurance, and mortgage payments. And how many times have we heard the statistics about how the average American family is two paychecks away from not eating? Sadly, I've seen it personally a couple times in the past year: I know several people who've lost jobs, and almost immediately their lives were thrown into chaos. How about the statistics about how the average American family has a negative savings rate?

If these things are really a surprise, pop over to the Budget Board. There's ample evidence that "we" as a society are not doing too well financially -- regardless of the number of incomes in the household. Does that mean that EVERYONE'S in trouble? Of course not, but an awful lot of people ARE too close to the financial edge, and even more are not preparing for their family's long-term needs.
I admit that I don't understand why moms would work if they didn't HAVE to.
The obvious question is, "Where do you draw the line at "have to"?

Just about all moms could manage to quit our jobs IF we wanted to do so badly enough. Just about all of us would be able to continue to eat, live indoors, have medical care and electricity -- the basics. If we were willing to live like people did in the 1950s/1960s (smaller houses, one car, cooking from scratch, sewing clothes, growing and canning vegetables, and other similar choices), then everyone certainly could live on considerably less. In fact, cutting back to one car would make a monumnetal dent in most family's budgets.

But what are the other goals for our families? The long-term goals. For me, I can't imagine raising my children for years, then saying, "Wow, it's time for college. Guess you'd better hope for some scholarships and/or go into debt for the rest of your life." I can't see choosing between retirement for me and college for the kids. It's important to consider the bigger picture, which has to include finances. It's important to me to know that we live in a paid-for house, that we've been able to take our kids on loads of educational trips, and that we've been able to do the things for them that we wanted to do. Don't mistake this for spoiling them; they rarely have new clothes, they don't have fancy phones, and they won't get cars at 16. But there have been lots of "extras" -- experiences mostly -- that we've wanted them to have. They wouldn't have had those without my income.
I have seen a number of my son's classmate's mothers try to go back to work once all of the children are in school and they all had to start over at the bottom after being out of the workforce for 5 to 10 years. Most of them couldn't even go back to the same profession they were in before children because they were competing with new college grads. So it is unrealistic to think you will take so many years off and then just step back in.
I've seen this too. As a teacher, I've seen people in certain subjects end up subbing (even for years!) before a full-time job becomes available. It's not so bad for people who teach "the big four", but for other people, it's tough. And then, those women end up at the bottom again: floating instead of having a real classroom, waiting a while 'til they can get the classes they prefer to teach, etc. And some people end up being placed at schools across the county instead of at the school next door.

There's a "cost" to staying out a couple years. You may deem it worthwhile when compared to the benefits, but coming back isn't always as easy as you might hope.
The harsh reality is that, all other things being equal, prospective employers prefer to have someone with a recent, stable work history rather than one with a large gap, regardless of the reason . . . unfair, unjust, wrong . . . if I have 2 resumes in my hand and one persons most recent job ended in 2008 and the other was 2003, who do you think I'm calling first?
This makes me think about a friend of mine who NEEDED to get back into work a few years ago (divorce situation). I helped her get her foot in the door at my school, and even though she had experience, she was absolutely not "up to par" anymore -- she was not used to staying on a schedule, and it was awful for her. It took her a very long time to get back into the swing of teaching, and she wasn't re-hired for the next year.

As you said, I know other people will write in that they started up right where they left off, and certainly some people do -- perhaps it's easier in some professions than in others -- but all women should be sure that they COULD go back to work IF it became necessary. It just seems like common sense and self-preservation to me that we all be ABLE to take care of our families. After all, I have a rock-solid marriage and no reason to think I'll ever be divorced, BUT my husband cannot promise me that he'll never become disabled, nor can he promise me that he'll still be alive and employed this time next year. If he were suddenly to stop bringing home a paycheck, we would have to cut back on things, but we would be fine. There's a great deal of peacefulness that comes with knowing that.
 
Please provide examples, because I don't see how that could possibly be true.

I guess it would be true if the job you were going for was flipping burgers or a supermarket cashier----but in the corporate world so much changes over years that the person out of work for 10 years would be hard pressed to get a job quickly if ever in their chosen field.
 
Yesterday I went to the vet to get frontline for my dog and I asked if they were hiring part time. They said Yes, send a resume. So I tell DH this yesterday and he says.. ready??? He says, "no I will do overtime, you really should be home right now, I'm sorry etc...etc.

Passive-aggressive mind games:rolleyes1
 
Actually I am glad it is working out for the OP. She wanted to stay at home and it looks like her husband wants that too. OP, do whatever you need to keep your marriage going especially if being a SAHM is important to you. If you get divorced, you will definitley need to work unless you are willing to live a low income lifestyle.
 

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