Do you say/use the word: GOT or GOTTEN?...

Got or Gotten

  • GOT

  • GOTTEN

  • Use both


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<font color=navy>I used to be indecisive, but now
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...I'm just curious as I sometimes see it both ways on here! :)

I'm a GOT girl! :p
 

I am completely out of the loop because I have no idea what context you're referring to :confused: .
 
Have you ever gotten an urge to just take off for Disneyworld?
Have you gotten your tax refund yet?
I have gotten where it is impossible for me to sleep without the tv on.
He would have gottten you a cup of coffee if you had only asked.
Joe always get to pitch but my son hasn't gotten to play at all.

It is common in American English but archaic in British English.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/gotten.html
 
I don't think I say either one of those very often...

this is how I would say those sentences...

Have you ever had an urge to just take off for Disneyworld?

Have you received your tax refund yet? (or did you get)

I have gotten to the point where it is impossible for me to sleep without the tv on. ( i guess I would say it here, with the addition of "to the point")

He would have brought you a cup of coffee if you had only asked.

Joe always get to pitch but my son hasn't had the chance to play at all.

I'm sure I say them sometimes though, just depends on the situation.
 
I am definitely a "had" girl. When I was a kid, my Dad's pet peeve was the word "got". Drove him insane and after being corrected a couple million times, I finally HAVE it right.;)
 
I don't understand. Both are perfectly valid words if used correctly.
 
Originally posted by DocRafiki
I don't understand. Both are perfectly valid words if used correctly.

Yes, they are both valid in American English.
I can say "I got a package in the mail today. I have gotten several packages in the mail this week."

But in British English, "gotten" is not proper.

Here's what David Crystal says about The gotten/got distinction in
The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language (p.311):

"Gotten is probably the most distinctive of all the AmE/BrE grammatical
differences.

And from: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_294.html

Dear Cecil:

A question that has been bothering me since the third grade: which is correct English--"He had got some" or "He had gotten some"? --Joseph M., Chicago

Dear Joseph:

There's still some ambiguity on this point. Using "gotten" as the past participle of "to get" will get you laughed out of every University Club in England, but it is in common use in the U.S., if only in speech and informal writing. One could make the case, however--and believe me, I will--that the choice of two past participle forms allows for a wider range of meanings than is possible with comparatively impoverished British English.

But first a bit of history. "Gotten" is actually the older form of the word, dating back to at least the fifteenth century. The King James translation of the Bible, published in 1611, prefers "gotten" to "got," but it was written in a self-consciously grand, archaic style. Shakespeare, working at the same time, seems to prefer "got," which by then had become the colloquial style. The "got" vs. "gotten" battle raged throughout the 1600s, the colonists taking "gotten" with them to America, where it flourished, while the stay-at-homes eventually came down on the side of "got." When Noah Webster, a man much in favor of simplifying the language, published his first American dictionary in 1864, he firmly declared "gotten" to be "obsolescent," but few paid strict attention.

In fact, I would venture to say that today both forms are proper, in both formal and informal usages, depending on the context. Permit me to quote A.H. Marckwardt, author of American English (1958): "... most Americans regularly make a very precise distinction between got and gotten. 'We've got ten thousand dollars for laboratory equipment,' means that the funds are in our possession--we have them. 'We have gotten ten thousand dollars for laboratory equipment,' means that we have obtained or acquired this particular sum of money. Few Americans would have the slightest question about the difference in the meaning of these two sentences...." In other words, got means you obtained something in the indefinite past, and gotten means you recently acquired it. This seems like a useful distinction to be able to make, and therefore Cecil brazenly declares it absolutely proper for all purposes, public and private. If some fussbudget gives you a hard time about it, tell him (or her) he'll have to answer to me.

--CECIL ADAMS
 















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