Do you bring your own bedding?

[MidgeHadley]

You are so right.....I don't know any of these people. I can have hateful tongue and quick to say things without thinking. I thought about that comment and came back to delete it from my post. Lo and behold, that quick you had put in your 50 cents. And I'm glad to hear that you don't have a problem saying what you feel in person. Maybe we should arrange to be in Disney at the same time so you can really give me a piece of your mind.

Well, I don't have any problems with you personally. And I also know that the way people seem on a message board isn't how they necessarily are in real life. Just because you've said things I've disagreed with doesn't mean I have any desire to give you a piece of my mind. Not in any rude way, at least.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I really cannot say what I truly feel at the moment, but I also am not as charitable as kaytieeldr and

Yeah, well, I was trying to be tactful. I could have said what I was thinking, but I didn't want to risk an infraction. I'm not nearly as eloquent as you.

Different strokes for different folks.I think it mainly boils down to different cultures and even races.

Furthermore, stating that different cultures and different races factor in defintely does not mean that I'm saying there are groups or types of people that are less then anyone else. It means exactly what it says, some people are brought up to detest things that others would find okay.

Amazing. My "culture" is American and my race is Caucasian. I was brought up knowing that a few germs won't kill you - and this was well before the obsession with and overabuse of antibacterial and antibiotic products have enabled antibiotic-resistant, life-threatening 'superbugs' such as MRSA.

Is this the correct upbringing for my culture/race, or did my parents do me a disservice? If my Caribbean born and raised coworker has the same upbringing, was she raised wrong for her culture/race?

I don't see how "cleanliness is next to godliness" is offensive, disrespectful, or degrading to anyone.

Trust me - that's not the offensive part of your statement.

 

[mechurchlady]

I am shocked that some people on this thread have no concerns for the safety of others or health of others. I do not like foot flushers because they want their pretty little hands to stay clean but do not care about other people who cannot foot flush. A person does not understand or dare respond to the violation of food and health code as well as putting people at risk of death or violation of religious codes. Why don't you people roll in someone's chair for a couple miles and live like others do.

I am not a bus boy but I know how hard they work so I clean up my table. I know others would be upset if I left the ketchup dirty so I wipe my hands first before using the bottle. I try to put myself in the place of others and that is hard at times but I do it.

I stand behind Bavaria and hope she does not get in trouble for speaking out about unsanitary conditions and other remarks. It must mean something to her if she is willing to be banned or given a time out just to fight an injustice. I no longer have that courage as I have few sites left to love.

 

[kaffinito]

Furthermore, stating that different cultures and different races factor in defintely does not mean that I'm saying there are groups or types of people that are less then anyone else. It means exactly what it says, some people are brought up to detest things that others would find okay. What's viewed as no big deal by group A may put group B in an uproar because they were raised to think differently.

I don't see how "cleanliness is next to godliness" is offensive, disrespectful, or degrading to anyone. It's just a phrase that I've heard a gazillion times and I'm sure lots of others have. I don't think anyone even means it in the alleged origin of the phrase. I just have always known it be like any other adage destined to encourage or discourage certain practices or behaviors. So maybe you all did what I was accused of doing in my earlier posts---------MISINTERPRETED IT!!

But I just let it go because it's just like the cop that uses his badge to bully people--when you have something to hide behind you have balls of steel, strip it away and you're a whimpering punk. I guess some of you are very grateful for the PC and the internet ....gave you guts you probably never possessed and lack in your everyday life.

1. That is how it came across. As rude and disrespectful of other peoples and "races." You sound like someone who just stepped out of the 1950's in the Deep South for pete's sake. Perhaps if you took the time to consider your words before posting, you won't be misinterpreted. I do not see how your earlier statement could have been interpreted in any other way.

2. As previously stated - that was NOT the offensive statement. Trying to make it seem as if that was the statement that has people upset tells me that perhaps you do not realize that your statement on race and other cultures was upsetting to some people. I will try to give you the benefit of the doubt.

3. This is just plain infantile. These are the words of someone who is upset because someone else does not agree with them, and they just can't quite figure out why. There are quite a few of of us here who would not hesitate to say to your face what we have said on the boards.

Please try to act like an adult and try to stay on topic. I know I was sidetracked myself too! The topic again, in case you have forgotten, is whether or not people bring their own bedding to the resorts and why.

 

[dbriggsq]

The one thing that bothers me about this is the 'foot-flushing'. As I've said before I had never heard of it until I read this thread.

It doens't bother me whether people bring their own bedding and clean their hotel rooms to within an inch of their lives, or even bring all the bedroom furniture because whatever they do in that respect doesn't have an impact on other people.

However the foot flushing most certainly does. For example would you be more careful about washing your hands if you had flushed the toilet normally or actually wiped your hands all over the toilet floor - I think I would. By flushing with your foot you are transferring goodness knows what onto the handle. People say 'well you would wash your hands anyway' but again it might need much more care and attention in this case - and if washing gets the bacteria off why do you choose to flush with your foot in the first place.

I keep thinking of a young child innocently flushing the toilet normally after someone has flushed it with their foot - before they had chance to wash their hands they could easily transfer bacteria to their clothing, face etc.

Where else would you knowingly put your foot where you know others are going to put their hands, especially when you know what is likely to be on the bottom of your shoe after you have stood close to a public toilet.

This definately does affect the safety, health and welfare of others and is in my opinion very selfish and people should be educated about the dangers of doing it.

 

[marcyinPA]

Bring my own bedding? Nope...never even considered it. But, I teach two year olds for living, so I come into contact with more than my share of germs on a daily basis. I'd like to believe that my resistance is high!

I do bring clorox wipes though, for touching up the sink and toilet in-between mousekeeping. I have boys....'nough said!

 

[maigheann]

I have travelled the world, visiting countries where people were not as fortunate to have all the luxuries you have in America and we have in Germany. Yet they did the best that they could with the little they had. Often those people who had the least were in fact the most generous and shared what little they had with those of us who have so much.

It has nothing to do with race. And what you may consider 'clean' someone else may find distasteful. Much of the rest of the world finds our western toilets unclean and uses squat toilets instead, for instance. I spent time in the Gulf states after Hurricane Katrina and I can assure you that people did the very best they could to get clean and stay clean. That was not easy but they tried with the little they had. The same holds true for people in remote parts of China and India and other places I have been.

We are all here blessed by an accident of fortune to live where we do. To look down on others and classify them as unclean based on their background is not a reflection on those who have so little, but on those who are doing the judging.

I am not convinced at all that Americans or westerners who happen to have a lot of the world's wealth corner the market on cleanliness. All this stuff about bedbugs and floor grime, does it compare to actual fecal matter on the dining table, which apparently more than 1/3 of DISers have seen at WDW? (Yeah, anyone who can afford a trip to WDW I think does not qualify as the world's poor) I'm pretty sure many people in other countries, rich or poor, would be disgusted beyond words to witness a diaper change on the dining table.

http://www.disboards.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=21185
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2089837

Btw, if >1/3 of occasional WDW vacationers have seen this, think of what the # would be like if only WDW restaurant workers were polled ...

 

[dawnball]

Another tip is to have the first ADR at any buffet dining and bring our own fork from the table to put food on your plate.

Several people have pointed out reasons this is a bad idea. However, there's a much, much easier answer to avoid picking up germs from serving utensils at buffets.

1) Don't eat at buffets. Really, people do the same thing to foods on buffet lines that they would do to foods in their home "pick up a roll, sniff it, put it back" "put too much food on their plate, put some back" etc. You have bigger risks than the handles - and if you're the first person through the lines, the handles are as clean as the fork on your table.

2) Bring a pack of nitrile gloves. Gloves on - get your food - gloves off. Problem solved. They'll also come in handy for inspecting your room, flushing the toilet, wiping down tables, moving some else's stroller, opening doors - the list is positively endless. They're cheap, disposable, and unlikely to ruin anyone else's day.

 

[MidgeHadley]

I am shocked that some people on this thread have no concerns for the safety of others or health of others. I do not like foot flushers because they want their pretty little hands to stay clean but do not care about other people who cannot foot flush. A person does not understand or dare respond to the violation of food and health code as well as putting people at risk of death or violation of religious codes. Why don't you people roll in someone's chair for a couple miles and live like others do.

I am not a bus boy but I know how hard they work so I clean up my table. I know others would be upset if I left the ketchup dirty so I wipe my hands first before using the bottle. I try to put myself in the place of others and that is hard at times but I do it.

I stand behind Bavaria and hope she does not get in trouble for speaking out about unsanitary conditions and other remarks. It must mean something to her if she is willing to be banned or given a time out just to fight an injustice. I no longer have that courage as I have few sites left to love.

Just again, for the record - I am a foot flusher. But I don't want to be lumped in with the germaphobes. I don't care about getting germs on my hands. I just foot flush because public toilets always have such low levers that foot flushing is just what I've always done. I understand that others can't do it and I'm sorry they can't but I'm also sorry because I'm not going to stop. There are many things in this world that I cannot do but I'm not about to expect others to stop doing them.

 

[MidgeHadley]

The one thing that bothers me about this is the 'foot-flushing'. As I've said before I had never heard of it until I read this thread.

It doens't bother me whether people bring their own bedding and clean their hotel rooms to within an inch of their lives, or even bring all the bedroom furniture because whatever they do in that respect doesn't have an impact on other people.

However the foot flushing most certainly does. For example would you be more careful about washing your hands if you had flushed the toilet normally or actually wiped your hands all over the toilet floor - I think I would. By flushing with your foot you are transferring goodness knows what onto the handle. People say 'well you would wash your hands anyway' but again it might need much more care and attention in this case - and if washing gets the bacteria off why do you choose to flush with your foot in the first place.

I keep thinking of a young child innocently flushing the toilet normally after someone has flushed it with their foot - before they had chance to wash their hands they could easily transfer bacteria to their clothing, face etc.

Where else would you knowingly put your foot where you know others are going to put their hands, especially when you know what is likely to be on the bottom of your shoe after you have stood close to a public toilet.

This definately does affect the safety, health and welfare of others and is in my opinion very selfish and people should be educated about the dangers of doing it.

And it is my opinion that thinking foot flushing is dangerous is hilarious. To each his own, I suppose.

 

[MidgeHadley]

I am not convinced at all that Americans or westerners who happen to have a lot of the world's wealth corner the market on cleanliness. All this stuff about bedbugs and floor grime, does it compare to actual fecal matter on the dining table, which apparently more than 1/3 of DISers have seen at WDW? (Yeah, anyone who can afford a trip to WDW I think does not qualify as the world's poor) I'm pretty sure many people in other countries, rich or poor, would be disgusted beyond words to witness a diaper change on the dining table.

http://www.disboards.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=21185
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2089837

Btw, if >1/3 of occasional WDW vacationers have seen this, think of what the # would be like if only WDW restaurant workers were polled ...

I saw a woman change not one, but two diapers at her table at Village Haus in Disneyland last month. She changed them on the bench seating but she was at the table in the dining area. There was a couple right next to them and we were a few tables away. If I had been the couple next to them, I would have said something. Of course, I'm a sarcastic person so it probably would have been something like "Congratulations. You just did the grossest thing I've seen this entire trip."

 

[dbriggsq]

And it is my opinion that thinking foot flushing is dangerous is hilarious. To each his own, I suppose.

So it doesn't bother you that you are endangering someone else's health by your practice. There are far more germs on the toilet floor and hence on your shoe which you are transferring to the handle that the next person will touch - unknowingly. Where else would you put your shoe which has just been on the toilet floor where you know someone else will soon put their hand.

 

[MidgeHadley]

So it doesn't bother you that you are endangering someone else's health by your practice. There are far more germs on the toilet floor and hence on your shoe which you are transferring to the handle that the next person will touch - unknowingly. Where else would you put your shoe which has just been on the toilet floor where you know someone else will soon put their hand.

There are already germs all over the park. Including my shoes, your shoes, kids hands, lap bars on rides, etc. The germs aren't going to hurt people if they just use good hand washing practices. And I hate to break it to you, but whether or not I, personally, flush with my foot isn't going to make much of a difference since there are a lot of people that do it. And you, personally, shouldn't worry about me because I don't think I'm using any of the same restrooms as you.

Oh and you know, I put my shoes everywhere. On table tops, inside the salad at the buffet, the countertops in the shops, and just about everywhere else in the parks.

Seriously though, what kind of response were you looking for? Where do you think I'm putting my feet?? Haha.

This is way off topic so either start a thread about the evils of foot flushing or feel free to PM me.

 

[Piglet843]

hehe.. this is great.

Proud germaphobe here!

OP - I do bring my own sheets most of the time - and I do wipe down most things in my hotel room that we plan to touch.
"Its my prerogative!"

Also - I flush with my foot. Why? Cause apparently the odds of someone else before me flushing with their foot is pretty high - and I sure as heck ain't touching it!! I don't touch anything in a bathroom if I can help it - I use tp or a towel. Ick!!

Now - back to your regulary scheduled drama....

 

[MidgeHadley]

hehe.. this is great.

Proud germaphobe here!

OP - I do bring my own sheets most of the time - and I do wipe down most things in my hotel room that we plan to touch.
"Its my prerogative!"

Also - I flush with my foot. Why? Cause apparently the odds of someone else before me flushing with their foot is pretty high - and I sure as heck ain't touching it!! I don't touch anything in a bathroom if I can help it - I use tp or a towel. Ick!!

Now - back to your regulary scheduled drama....

Way off topic - but I love your avatar.

 

[buffettgirl]

Foot flushers UNITE!

anyway - those who do not like or are unable to foot flush should do exactly what I teach my children to do - use a piece of toilet paper to flush. When I'm dressed up fancy and have no inclination to reach my foot up there, I simply grab a piece of toilet paper and flush, tossing the toilet paper in on the way down. Why on EARTH would you use your bare hand to touch anything in a public toilet? blech.

Then again, aren't most of the public toilets equipped with the autoflushers anyway?

 

[Cinderumbrella]

so why not use a piece of TP everytime and not your foot?

 

[summermac]

Seems this all boils down to one thing:
WASH YOUR HANDS before you eat, after you use the restroom and any other time you think about it. End of story.

You can choose to disinfect the bejesus out of your room. But guess what, the second you open the door and touch something, you've got germs. WASH YOUR HANDS

You can choose to foot flush. But as soon as you go to unlock that stall door, you've got germs. WASH YOUR HANDS

You run around the parks all day long, touching railings, ride safety bars and god knows what else. WASH YOUR HANDS and wallah, it's gone.

Wash your hands. Wash your hands. Wash your hands.

And I'm still waiting for cookingmama (my apologies to MissDisney) to at least acknowledge that taking her own utensils to a buffet is absolutely inappropriate and that she is no longer going to do that. THAT is far more problematic for a person than a few germs in a room.


And while I'm in here, I think my family is doomed. We have a well. *gasp* We're all going to die.

 

[buffettgirl]

so why not use a piece of TP everytime and not your foot?

because I would rather not waste unnecessary paper. Foot flushing is more environmentally sound.

 

[buffettgirl]

Seems this all boils down to one thing:
WASH YOUR HANDS before you eat, after you use the restroom and any other time you think about it. End of story.

You can choose to disinfect the bejesus out of your room. But guess what, the second you open the door and touch something, you've got germs. WASH YOUR HANDS

You can choose to foot flush. But as soon as you go to unlock that stall door, you've got germs. WASH YOUR HANDS

You run around the parks all day long, touching railings, ride safety bars and god knows what else. WASH YOUR HANDS and wallah, it's gone.

Wash your hands. Wash your hands. Wash your hands.

And I'm still waiting for MissDisney to at least acknowledge that taking her own utensils to a buffet is absolutely inappropriate and that she is no longer going to do that. THAT is far more problematic for a person than a few germs in a room.


And while I'm in here, I think my family is doomed. We have a well. *gasp* We're all going to die.

that's it in a nutshell.