Do you believe misogyny exists and people should be protected from misogyny?

[barkley]

Misandry is not the solution to misogyny

absolutely.

further I believe that the extent to which women are overly judgemental and very forthcoming in those judgements towards other women is an issue that has long been unaddressed. from little girls on the playground to grown-a..women through their attitudes, words and actions making others feel less than, shamed and questioning of their own capabilities. excusing it away as an acceptable form of socialization and 'just how friend groups work' (when did 'friend group' replace the word 'clique'). as an example-I was thrilled when moms working outside the home were no longer as frequently negatively judged and shamed by other women but then it became popular to do the same to the sahm's and so it goes back and forth. body shaming, sexuality, marital status (or lack of), career/non career, having children/choosing to be child free...I've seen/experienced far too many women INTENTIONALLY prejudicial towards one another and that is something that must end.

 

[LuvOrlando]

I take exception to the bolded. If a woman has chosen a husband whose expectations of her and the relationship are oppressive, that's on her. We don't have quite the same ability to choose our bosses/corporate cultures, although I suppose on some level, quitting is always an option. Not that it should have to come to that and I truly don't believe there are many reputable companies in 2025 that haven't cleaned up their acts a lot since the 80's.

Come off as a bit tilted towards the, "blame the victim" mentality because the same argument could easily follow for an abusive husband. Was this your intended slant?

 

[ronandannette]

Come off as a bit tilted towards the, "blame the victim" mentality because the same argument could easily follow for an abusive husband. Was this your intended slant?

{{sigh}} No it wasn't. Get over yourself. If you've never been emotionally taunted or physically attacked by a husband, maybe you don't see the difference between that and having one lay on the couch watching baseball while the wife cleans out the fridge. I doubt you are calling men who live in couples where the domestic duties aren't shared equally (for whatever reason) abusive. Or that you consider their wives, who are presumably adults with free agency, to all be victims.

 

[Moliphino]

Lately, I point out that the greatest inventions that we all enjoy and take for granted were invented by men such as lights, cars, trains, airplanes, the internet and air-conditioning.

Any of these replies usually gives them a nice warm cup of shut the fark up.

And how much of that is because women weren't allowed an education, and even if they had it their discoveries were often stolen by male colleagues?

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

And how much of that is because women weren't allowed an education, and even if they had it their discoveries were often stolen by male colleagues?

We have no way of knowing for sure because back when electric lights and AC were being invented, societal expectations were very different so it's hard to compare to modern times. How many women back then wanted to burst out of their life and act like a man, so to speak?

Birth control didn't exist so even if a woman wasn't wanting children, it was much harder to avoid becoming pregnant. Most people did what was expected of them at the time.

 

[LuvOrlando]

{{sigh}} No it wasn't. Get over yourself. If you've never been emotionally taunted or physically attacked by a husband, maybe you don't see the difference between that and having one lay on the couch watching baseball while the wife cleans out the fridge. I doubt you are calling men who live in couples where the domestic duties aren't shared equally (for whatever reason) abusive. Or that you consider their wives, who are presumably adults with free agency, to all be victims.

Get over myself? What are we in the 8th grade? Back in the schoolyard I remember "I know you are but what am I," being a favorite comeback too.

For the adult takeaway, do you mean a woman deserves everything she gets up to a certain threshold for marrying a guy? If there is a threshold, what is it?

If you have something to say just make it plain as day.

 

[Allison]

Of course it does.

 

[EilonwyWanderer]

All of this is unacceptable behaviour - may I ask how you responded to it? Long gone are the days that women should be putting up with anything like this. It's not right that we need to contend for ourselves in such basic ways, but sometimes still necessary.

I went to HR with a 14 page file, time stamped documenting all of his behavior.

Three times.

Each time they acted horrified. Then he'd be promoted out of trouble. That happened twice. After the first time each time I went back they told me they had no record of any complaints.

I still have to interact with him on a daily basis, but I no longer report to him.