Do you agree with this?

[OceanAnnie]

If you wear a thong, can your panties get in a wad? or are they always in a wad?

 

[punkin]

The piece of junk that was sent home to the OP, for example, is coming from an author with a point of view that espouses hitting your kids. I don't want to start a debate about corporal punishment here, but that absolutely is child abuse to me. YMMV. I agree with you that there are a variety of parenting styles. That's why teachers should keep their parenting philosophies to themselves and concentrate on what goes on in the classroom.

No, I don't think teaching children in an educational setting is at all equivalent to parenting. Neither does my public school teacher husband. He jokes about how he and some of his colleagues used to know it all about raising kids until they actually had some.

See, I didn't even know this but I knew I hated the advice. I read up on the guy, and quite frankly, every bit of his philosophy nauseates me.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Okay,so the next time I see a lost child I will just let them walk around aimlessly and cry. I'm not talking about other putting other people's children to bed or teach them "things".



I think you may have misread my quote. I don't mean I am raising your child the way I would see fit. But, you sure have some colorful language. Sounds like you don't have very nice people surrounding you the way you describe the "village".

Honey, it would curl your hair.

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

I actually think the "steps" are fine---but for some reason it would bother me that my child was bringing home things to me from school about parenting...

My child would be returning to school the next day with a ten step article on how to be a better teacher.

 

[kaytieeldr]

The piece of junk that was sent home to the OP, for example, is coming from an author with a point of view that espouses hitting your kids.

Well, as the only kid in my family who ever got "the strap", I definitely disagree disagree with injuriously hitting kids - but the list doesn't even imply corporal punishment, and its author isn't credited anywhere (and parents who think it's crap are much more likely to toss than research it).

 

[kaytieeldr]

My child would be returning to school the next day with a ten step article on how to be a better teacher.

Which would be an invalid and unfair comparison. Given that the original list was titled "Ten steps for raising happy children", the relevant list would be "Ten steps for educating happy [successful] students".



disclaimer: quoting this post for convenience only, while acknowledging many posters in this thread have expressed the same opinion.

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

Which would be an invalid and unfair comparison. Given that the original list was titled "Ten steps for raising happy children", the relevant list would be "Ten steps for educating happy [successful] students".

At least my title wouldn't be misleading.

 

[Pigeon]

Well, as the only kid in my family who ever got "the strap", I definitely disagree disagree with injuriously hitting kids - but the list doesn't even imply corporal punishment, and its author isn't credited anywhere (and parents who think it's crap are much more likely to toss than research it).

Perhaps then the teacher should make better use of her time brushing up on attribution of sources, plagiarism and citation practice than meddling in things that aren't any of her business.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I have to admit, I'm surprised by the outrage displayed over the tips, as well as the number of people upset by the perceived waste of paper who state they would throw said paper in the trash (circular file) - instead of the recycling bin. No, that's not semantics; there's a very distinct difference between the two receptacles, and most of you have grown up in the recycling bin era. "Same thing" doesn't cut it as an excuse.

For all of you who are so offended by these tips (not rules, requirements, demands, etc.): what would YOUR tips be for raising a happy child?

 

[DebIreland]

Which would be an invalid and unfair comparison. Given that the original list was titled "Ten steps for raising happy children", the relevant list would be "Ten steps for educating happy [successful] students".

And also to make it fair the flyer wouldn't be sent out to one individual teacher, it would be sent to hundreds of teachers. As a matter of fact I'm quite sure teachers get information and updated training tips/advice regularly. I know here teachers have teacher training days a couple of times a year which include teaching advice and best practice information. I don't hear any outrage from them saying "we're already perfect teachers, don't insult us with this advice".

 

[Pigeon]

I have to admit, I'm surprised by the outrage displayed over the tips, as well as the number of people upset by the perceived waste of paper who state they would throw said paper in the trash (circular file) - instead of the recycling bin. No, that's not semantics; there's a very distinct difference between the two receptacles, and most of you have grown up in the recycling bin era. "Same thing" doesn't cut it as an excuse.

For all of you who are so offended by these tips (not rules, requirements, demands, etc.): what would YOUR tips be for raising a happy child?

The point is, I wouldn't presume to send an unsolicited list of tips for raising happy children to a group of parents.

 

[Acklander]

And also to make it fair the flyer wouldn't be sent out to one individual teacher, it would be sent to hundreds of teachers. As a matter of fact I'm quite sure teachers get information and updated training tips/advice regularly. I know here teachers have teacher training days a couple of times a year which include teaching advice and best practice information. I don't hear any outrage from them saying "we're already perfect teachers, don't insult us with this advice".

I would assume that the training is part of their job and led by people who are experts in their field. How I raise my child is not part of their job. I also don't take raising happy children advice from my auto mechanic (even if he's gone to an auto mechanics training a few days a year) or from my librarian ( even though she's gone to library seminars through out the year) or from the pool guy who is very proud of his water balancing certificate. If I want advice on getting my kid through math or science - that's the info I am looking for from teachers. - not about how much time I spend with my husband, or how much tv my child watches.

 

[mrsklamc]

The "If you're single don't be married to your kids" - I can see wanting to spend all your time with your kids. But I have seen a tendency the last few years of single moms taking on an unhealthy relationship with their sons.

 

[marcyinPA]

I would assume that the training is part of their job and led by people who are experts in their field. How I raise my child is not part of their job. I also don't take raising happy children advice from my auto mechanic (even if he's gone to an auto mechanics training a few days a year) or from my librarian ( even though she's gone to library seminars through out the year) or from the pool guy who is very proud of his water balancing certificate. If I want advice on getting my kid through math or science - that's the info I am looking for from teachers. - not about how much time I spend with my husband, or how much tv my child watches.

Seriously??? With all due respect, the teacher deals with YOUR kids all day long!! How you raise them DOES affect him/her!! The auto mechanic, the librarian, the pool guy- you leave your kids with them 6-7 hours a day?


This thread has me so aggravated, I think I need to stop reading it. I can't believe the number of people here who are assumingly unwilling to work WITH their child's school/teacher. It's a paper with TIPS, for goodness sakes! If you don't think you need it, then don't read it! You may be a perfect parent- and you may think you know it all- but can you be open to the fact that maybe, just maybe, you might read something new that sticks with you? I am really scared for the future of society when I read some of these comments!

 

[Pigeon]

Seriously??? With all due respect, the teacher deals with YOUR kids all day long!! How you raise them DOES affect him/her!! The auto mechanic, the librarian, the pool guy- you leave your kids with them 6-7 hours a day?


This thread has me so aggravated, I think I need to stop reading it. I can't believe the number of people here who are assumingly unwilling to work WITH their child's school/teacher. It's a paper with TIPS, for goodness sakes! If you don't think you need it, then don't read it! You may be a perfect parent- and you may think you know it all- but can you be open to the fact that maybe, just maybe, you might read something new that sticks with you? I am really scared for the future of society when I read some of these comments!

Oh, please. The person you responded to indicated that they would be perfectly delighted to work with a teacher about educational issues. No one has said anything to the contrary.

It is the uninvited butting in on people's family life that we object to. The problem is that schools are increasingly feeling like they have a right to get involved in what goes on out of school. Keep your nose out of my family time and we'll be fine.

 

[ccgirl]

Seriously??? With all due respect, the teacher deals with YOUR kids all day long!! How you raise them DOES affect him/her!! The auto mechanic, the librarian, the pool guy- you leave your kids with them 6-7 hours a day?


This thread has me so aggravated, I think I need to stop reading it. I can't believe the number of people here who are assumingly unwilling to work WITH their child's school/teacher. It's a paper with TIPS, for goodness sakes! If you don't think you need it, then don't read it! You may be a perfect parent- and you may think you know it all- but can you be open to the fact that maybe, just maybe, you might read something new that sticks with you? I am really scared for the future of society when I read some of these comments!

Great post. When I go to my doctor's office there are always fliers there as well. Sorry, but they are presumably no better at "raising" children than the teachers.

I guess I really don't see a big deal. Even if I didn't agree with any of them I would read them (as I do all paperwork my DD brings home) and place it in the recycling bin. I wouldn't take it personally.

 

[Acklander]

Seriously??? With all due respect, the teacher deals with YOUR kids all day long!! How you raise them DOES affect him/her!! The auto mechanic, the librarian, the pool guy- you leave your kids with them 6-7 hours a day?

How I raise them, may effect them, but ultimately, I'm the one that is raising my child, not the school. As long as im not abusing them, its my business, not the schools.
I have a philosophy and style that I'm comfortable with. If I have parenting questions I will consult one of the books that respects my parenting method or will check with my pediatrician who is a believer in my parenting philosophy. Frankly, unless the problem was originating at school, I wouldn't be consulting the school.

 

[Pigeon]

Great post. When I go to my doctor's office there are always fliers there as well. Sorry, but they are presumably no better at "raising" children than the teachers.

I guess I really don't see a big deal. Even if I didn't agree with any of them I would read them (as I do all paperwork my DD brings home) and place it in the recycling bin. I wouldn't take it personally.

I don't take parenting advise from our pediatrician, either. I take medical advice from her. I have no problem lettting the doctor know that.

 

[FireDancer]

This thread has me so aggravated, I think I need to stop reading it. I can't believe the number of people here who are assumingly unwilling to work WITH their child's school/teacher. It's a paper with TIPS, for goodness sakes! If you don't think you need it, then don't read it! You may be a perfect parent- and you may think you know it all- but can you be open to the fact that maybe, just maybe, you might read something new that sticks with you? I am really scared for the future of society when I read some of these comments!

Personally, I see a difference between working with someone and unsolicited spam (which is what it is just in dead tree format).

If a teacher sees a student has a particular problem that might be related to a home problem they can reach out and work with the parents. That seems completely reasonable. Send a sealed note home to the parents with your concerns and ask for a call, email, or face to face conference. I see that completely different than what was described in the OP.

Just my opinion.

 

[hereyago]

The "If you're single don't be married to your kids" - I can see wanting to spend all your time with your kids. But I have seen a tendency the last few years of single moms taking on an unhealthy relationship with their sons.

I am a single mom, but even though I love my DD13 with all my heart, being a mom isn't my only goal in life. I look at it like your life has chapters in it, even though DD is a huge chapter, she isn't the whole book. I felt the same way when I was married to her dad. I know people who wrap their lives around their kids and have no outside life, when the kid goes off to college or whatever, the parent is besides themselves on what to do now that their kid is gone or try to cling on to their kid, that isn't for me.