Do Not Disturb Gone! (BLT)

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Won't use use the latch?

Yes, the knocking may wake you. Why would it have to be a "bad scene"? Are you going to yell at someone for doing their job?
Yes, the plan is to use the latch, as long as my husband is in the room. Otherwise, no, I don't plan on locking my husband out of the room.

Tell me, how do you react when you wake to find someone in your room? Are you cordial? Friendly? Do you just roll over and let them go about their business? Because for me, I'm pretty sure that my self preservation will kick in. You will probably hear my scream at Disney Springs if someone walks into my room while I am sleeping.

And based on how many times people have been told that what the resorts are doing aren't in fact what the policy intended, they aren't actually doing their jobs. But, yes, I probably would be mean to someone waking me up. Sorry, but I'm not a bundle of sunshine when someone wakes me up for no reason. (And yes, it is for no reason.)
 
Just think of how all the people that don't post on bulletin boards are going to feel about this new policy when they experience a security theater intrusion.

I always think of Disney Fan Bulletin Boards as the proverbial canaries in a coal mine, letting everyone know what is going on and what they think about what is going on. If this many people, posting here and on other sites, are this concerned about it ahead of time, and more reports of bad experiences are coming in as time goes by, how long is it going to take Disney to find a better way to deal with this concern?

Since I go frequently, my friends depend on me for advice about planning their trips. Now I have to bring up the fact that Disney has determined that you no longer have the right to privacy in your resort room and they reserve the right to come in at any time... and I mean ANY time. The people I talk to can't believe that this is actually happening. Once I convince them that it actually is then it becomes enough of a concern that they ask where they can stay where something like this won't happen.

The longer it takes Disney to fix this, the more that word will get out about the way that guests are being treated. There are plenty of other choices when it comes to lodgings near Walt Disney World. With all the historical cuts to EMH and now the benefits offered by good neighbor hotels, not to mention the huge pricing premiums added to a Disney resort stay, off site is looking more attractive everyday. When you factor in the resort bus transportation problems, and the reductions in housekeeping that are coming along with those high price premiums, one has to wonder if more and more guests are coming to the tipping point when it comes to decision time about their Disney parks vacation.

All I know is those tipping points added up for me to equal an off site stay. Once you start looking around you can't believe what you can get for a much lower price. Lyft and other transportation services are making it affordable to get back and forth to the parks from off site resorts and good deals are to be had when you decide to rent a car. The savings that you experience from staying off site definitely outweigh the declining experience and escalating prices of staying onsite, in my opinion.

With moves like this Disney is making it way easier to rethink the way you visit their parks.

~NM
 
[QUOTE=" What would cause the "bad scene'?[/QUOTE]

"I asked if she could come back in an hour when my grandson is done napping. She insists I have to let her in, and then she requires ME to step outside while she goes in.
She goes in flips on the light, looks back and forth, checks the bathroom, then leaves. Of course ,
my grandson wakes up before fully rested, and spends the rest of the day cranky."
 
Won't use use the latch?

Yes, the knocking may wake you. Why would it have to be a "bad scene"? Are you going to yell at someone for doing their job? Do you have really bad hair when you wake up? What would cause the "bad scene'?
I can only speak for myself. If I am woken up, I tend to be disoriented at first. I have no doubt that I would scream bloody murder assuming that this “security person” was in reality a dangerous intruder. I’m not in the habit of being walked in on by strangers. I’m pretty sure that I would be terrified. Now, my DD(20) and her BFF would most definitely lose their minds and probably do worse than me. They will have their own room and be more or less on their own a lot of the time. I haven’t told them about this nonsense yet, because I already know that they will freak out. I’m hoping that Disney revises this policy into something more reasonable. In the meantime, I won’t feel safe in the room without my DH. He should be able to wander the resort while I nap (the reason why some of us won’t always latch the door) and return when he wants. This takes away from our freedom to relax and do as we please while we are on vacation. If this policy is still in effect in July, then we will have to make accommodations and be inconvenienced.
 

There are plenty of other choices when it comes to lodgings near Walt Disney World. With all the historical cuts to EMH and now the benefits offered by good neighbor hotels, not to mention the huge pricing premiums added to a Disney resort stay, off site is looking more attractive everyday. When you factor in the resort bus transportation problems, and the reductions in housekeeping that are coming along with those high price premiums, one has to wonder if more and more guests are coming to the tipping point when it comes to decision time about their Disney parks vacation.

All I know is those tipping points added up for me to equal an off site stay. Once you start looking around you can't believe what you can get for a much lower price. Lyft and other transportation services are making it affordable to get back and forth to the parks from off site resorts and good deals are to be had when you decide to rent a car. The savings that you experience from staying off site definitely outweigh the declining experience and escalating prices of staying onsite, in my opinion.

With moves like this Disney is making it way easier to rethink the way you visit their parks.

~NM
This is very true. For me, that tipping point has already been reached, due to a variety of factors. I haven't totally sworn off of staying onsite, but for this year's trips, I currently plan to stay onsite for less than a fifth of my total time in the area.
 
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2018 Jan 09 07:25:26 PM
Just experienced this for the first time Sunday at BCV's. I had noticed they had change the door tags from Do Not Disturb to Room Occupied. I did not have ours out and the CM did the typical housekeeping tap-tap-tap on the door. I opened the door and he explained that he had to do a walk through. He walked through each room of our 2BR including the bathrooms. All I can say it was kind of ackward for both of us. we made small talk but still awkward.
 
Just think of how all the people that don't post on bulletin boards are going to feel about this new policy when they experience a security theater intrusion.

I always think of Disney Fan Bulletin Boards as the proverbial canaries in a coal mine, letting everyone know what is going on and what they think about what is going on. If this many people, posting here and on other sites, are this concerned about it ahead of time, and more reports of bad experiences are coming in as time goes by, how long is it going to take Disney to find a better way to deal with this concern?

Since I go frequently, my friends depend on me for advice about planning their trips. Now I have to bring up the fact that Disney has determined that you no longer have the right to privacy in your resort room and they reserve the right to come in at any time... and I mean ANY time. The people I talk to can't believe that this is actually happening. Once I convince them that it actually is then it becomes enough of a concern that they ask where they can stay where something like this won't happen.

The longer it takes Disney to fix this, the more that word will get out about the way that guests are being treated. There are plenty of other choices when it comes to lodgings near Walt Disney World. With all the historical cuts to EMH and now the benefits offered by good neighbor hotels, not to mention the huge pricing premiums added to a Disney resort stay, off site is looking more attractive everyday. When you factor in the resort bus transportation problems, and the reductions in housekeeping that are coming along with those high price premiums, one has to wonder if more and more guests are coming to the tipping point when it comes to decision time about their Disney parks vacation.

All I know is those tipping points added up for me to equal an off site stay. Once you start looking around you can't believe what you can get for a much lower price. Lyft and other transportation services are making it affordable to get back and forth to the parks from off site resorts and good deals are to be had when you decide to rent a car. The savings that you experience from staying off site definitely outweigh the declining experience and escalating prices of staying onsite, in my opinion.

With moves like this Disney is making it way easier to rethink the way you visit their parks.

~NM

I'm a little more vindictive.

I won't be looking for lodging outside of Disney. I won't be stepping foot on Disney property. They won't get ANY of my money. I will vacation elsewhere.
 
I'm a little more vindictive.

I won't be looking for lodging outside of Disney. I won't be stepping foot on Disney property. They won't get ANY of my money. I will vacation elsewhere.
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I just got back two days ago from Port Orleans French Quarter. I was sick the first two days and was in room sleeping with room occupied sign on door. I heard some knocking and ignored it, figuring it was just housekeeping or something. I was surprised when a Disney staffer opened the door--and I think he was surprised to see me...

He explained that he had to do a quick safety check and provided me a card explaining what he was doing. It seemed a little sketchy to me as I was not familiar with this new process, but took five seconds so whatever. Second day, same thing, but this time I get up and answered the door for 'Safety Man'. I asked him what the deal was. He explained that since Las Vegas they have to check every resort room on property every single day.
 
I'm a little more vindictive.

I won't be looking for lodging outside of Disney. I won't be stepping foot on Disney property. They won't get ANY of my money. I will vacation elsewhere.
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I just returned from a stay at the Grand Californian in Disneyland and they appear to have implemented the same policy. Although I did see that the language had been changed to "ROOM OCCUPIED", I was unaware that anyone was going to be entering our room on a daily basis so I did not lock up my valuables. I had a $100 Disney Gift Card (purchased from Target, still on the backing and unregistered) left out on the counter that went missing on the first morning. And all of our trash bins had been changed too. When I filed a report on the $100 GC, both security and the front desk were unclear about the current mousekeeping policy and seemed clueless as to why someone would come in and change the trash on a daily basis.

This last experience was the final straw and I will be selling my DVC contract.
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so i just received a call from Cleon from Disney Vacation Club:

she said here is the policy:
Unless i made verbal arrangements, and chose a specific time to have the safety and maintance inspection done, then a housekeeper will Knock anytime after 8am regardless of "occupied" or not on the door.

She said occupied room sign does not mean they won't knock. it just is to let the housekeeper/inspector know that someone is in there and you should expect an answer if you knock. if there is no sign they will knock as well.

I told my story about 1/1/18 and the 9am knock. She said even though sign is on the door, he did the right thing and knocked. i said i'm in my underwear and i ask to come back in an hour and he says he needs to look in the room and i need to open the door. She said once i make contact with the person, then they have the "right" to perform the inspection. I said, i'm in my udnerwear and the rest of the family is sleeping and i have to open the door. She said unless you made pre-arrangements for scheduled inspection, then yes you have to open the door!

So this contradicts completely what "patrick" told others.

Cleon bothered me so much. She said all the details are on the website. i said where? where does it say make pre-arrangements? she said you do that when you check in. i said i do online check in. it's not a question on the online check in. She said to still stop at check in and make time arrangements. round and round and round and round and round...i eventually said this is getting nowhere, thank you for the call, but you just reading policy statements to me is not putting my mind at ease. She never once apologized for the 9am knock and more or less said i was just not educated on the policy. Ok..so it's my fault.

This is such a mess!!!! As an "owner of the is unit" on these days, don't i have rights of some sort?
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Good afternoon,
I just returned from a 2 night stay at Bay Lake Tower, and I want to make note of an issue with the new “trash” policy. I have heard about and understand the policy, but we also come to Disney to relax. If housekeeping insists on entering the room - it is best to please do so when we are out.
We are 2 fairly young people (40’s) vacationing with no children and we take a nap every afternoon and relax before going back out in the evening. I went out to get my hair done at GF salon on the 30th of December, and my husband went to take a nap. We planned on being out very late in the park that night. He specifically asked for the “Occupied” card, and told the concierge he would be taking a nap and we did not want housekeeping coming for an hour or two. He locked the bolt, and this was around 3. I returned around 4. I texted him I was back and he got up to let me in. The housekeeper was down the hall saying he needed to come in, and I said well, he was asleep, give us a minute. I went in and my husband was just getting out of bed and dressing and the phone starts ringing, and it is housekeeping management saying they NEED to get in the room. So, they had all day, and since someone’s shift is ending they suddenly NEED to get in the room to “check off a box” on their paper. The housekeeping manager begins explaining on the phone to me that they need to inspect the room every day. I told them we had the room occupied sign on and hung up. I went down the hall and told the housekeeper to empty the trash (while my husband is still half-dressed) and he did. I am not sure what “inspection” means, but all he did was take out a few trash cans and left quickly. He never even looked up. Especially since it was obvious one person was half-dressed and half-asleep. If this has anything to do with “safety” it was a pretty pointless exercise. Is it “safety” inspection? Is it trash removal? No one can answer this as the front desk person began telling me about safety, but nothing about trash.

I told the front desk later and they said housekeeping should NOT be knocking and calling when the sign is up, and he would speak to them. I believe the management needs to figure out exactly what they are doing here. Is it an inspection or just a trash take out? Can we take a nap in the afternoon on OUR vacation or can we expect people pounding on the door and calling while the “Room Occupied” sign is out for a FEW HOURS ONLY. The reason we own 640 DVC points is so that we do not have to be “park commandos” from rope drop to the fireworks. We have no kids. We like to relax. We want to take a nap on many days and we do not want people pounding on our door or calling because they were not able to get to our room until the end of their shift and then were rushing about. Disney knows when we are in the park – we wear Magic Bands. They even know when we are on the 7 Dwarves Mine Train. I have seen the videos, and yet they insist on knocking on the door AND calling when he specifically said “I need a Room Occupied sign to hang because I am going to lay down for a few hours”. This is the most un-magical service I have ever had at Disney. We were there 12/7-12-15; 12/29-12/31 and we are coming back in 3 weeks. Three trips in less than two months, so we must think Disney is doing something right, but this was a major error in my eyes. Please figure out a way for people to be able to take a nap without being hounded. How do I go about setting this up when we return to BLT on the 21ST? I guess the next step is unplugging the phone if Disney staff cannot figure out a way to please do this unobtrusively. We really just want to sleep for an hour. I do not think that is too much to ask when I work hard to pay the Maintenance Fees and enjoy my trip. I have no other complaints about DVC, the rooms, the staff, etc. We have loved every trip more than the last, and we really are impressed by something new and wonderful each time. But the lack of communication, courtesy and understanding on this new policy, is, to put it bluntly – a major screw up on the part of Disney. We just want to take a nap I the afternoon – I don’t care when else they come in.
Thanks for your time,
 
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We stayed at the Pop Century last week. They no longer allow do not disturb signs on your door. At about 2:30 my 4 year old grand son was in our room to get his BADLY needed nap. Using their new "room occupied" door sign, the maid service appropriately passed over our room. One hour later, around 3:30, with my grandson and wife sleeping in their bed, there's a strong knock on my door. A security lady at the door says she needs to check the room, for security reasons. I asked if she could come back in an hour when my grandson is done napping. She insists I have to let her in, and then she requires ME to step outside while she goes in.
She goes in flips on the light, looks back and forth, checks the bathroom, then leaves. Of course , my grandson wakes up before fully rested, and spends the rest of the day cranky.
Disney really screwed up on this policy decision. I know we live in a new reality for security, but if there is a bad guy wanting to do bad things, this won't catch him/her. Guns can be hidden under mattresses, in closed suitcases, or the trunk of their car.
This is not how we are supposed to be treated in the United States. Freedom to be left alone is highly valued, and coming into my paid for room w/o notice or warning is not cool.


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Wow!!!!
 
This is such a concern to me. Not that Disney is trying to be more secure, but the fact that there seems to be no way of knowing when you will be woken up, walked in on by a stranger. It seems like management/staff don't know what the other is doing. I hope some of the kinks are ironed out before our next trip. I am all for being safe, thank the CM's each time they check my bags going into the park, but I have to admit I don't want to be woken up and walked in on on my vacation. Seems to me like the guests that are bringing a dog are the only ones who will get to sleep in/nap/or have any privacy. Jeez!
 
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We had this happen to us a few weeks ago. We had literally just checked into our room and were running late for a reservation because they did not get us in at regular check in time. I was in the bathroom changing and the next thing I know there is someone in the doorway looking for trash. Of course we didn't have any because we just checked in. Not only did they catch me by surprise, but I enjoy the peace and quiet of not having housekeeping knocking on my door every AM.
There are many people I know that don't like people coming in unannounced - they worry that they might have left valuables out.......
 
Won't use use the latch?

Yes, the knocking may wake you. Why would it have to be a "bad scene"? Are you going to yell at someone for doing their job? Do you have really bad hair when you wake up? What would cause the "bad scene'?
As has been pointed out repeatedly, people can only use the latch if everyone is IN the room. Unless I invite you into my room, you are not welcome, period.
 
Just think of how all the people that don't post on bulletin boards are going to feel about this new policy when they experience a security theater intrusion.

I always think of Disney Fan Bulletin Boards as the proverbial canaries in a coal mine, letting everyone know what is going on and what they think about what is going on. If this many people, posting here and on other sites, are this concerned about it ahead of time, and more reports of bad experiences are coming in as time goes by, how long is it going to take Disney to find a better way to deal with this concern?

Since I go frequently, my friends depend on me for advice about planning their trips. Now I have to bring up the fact that Disney has determined that you no longer have the right to privacy in your resort room and they reserve the right to come in at any time... and I mean ANY time. The people I talk to can't believe that this is actually happening. Once I convince them that it actually is then it becomes enough of a concern that they ask where they can stay where something like this won't happen.

The longer it takes Disney to fix this, the more that word will get out about the way that guests are being treated. There are plenty of other choices when it comes to lodgings near Walt Disney World. With all the historical cuts to EMH and now the benefits offered by good neighbor hotels, not to mention the huge pricing premiums added to a Disney resort stay, off site is looking more attractive everyday. When you factor in the resort bus transportation problems, and the reductions in housekeeping that are coming along with those high price premiums, one has to wonder if more and more guests are coming to the tipping point when it comes to decision time about their Disney parks vacation.

All I know is those tipping points added up for me to equal an off site stay. Once you start looking around you can't believe what you can get for a much lower price. Lyft and other transportation services are making it affordable to get back and forth to the parks from off site resorts and good deals are to be had when you decide to rent a car. The savings that you experience from staying off site definitely outweigh the declining experience and escalating prices of staying onsite, in my opinion.

With moves like this Disney is making it way easier to rethink the way you visit their parks.

~NM
I'll be honest - this ridiculous "security" policy is the tipping point for me. Adding EMH and 60 day Fastpass booking for offsite guests cemented my decision not to return to Disney. Two to three trips a year for the last twelve years -done.
 
I'll be honest - this ridiculous "security" policy is the tipping point for me. Adding EMH and 60 day Fastpass booking for offsite guests cemented my decision not to return to Disney. Two to three trips a year for the last twelve years -done.
Ridiculous for certain. It will do nothing to prevent a Vegas tragedy as the Vegas madman kept all his guns and ammo in luggage until the day of the mass murder. It's a sick and twisted joke to try and play off that it would have prevented or caught anything like what happened in Vegas.

I'm going to be sending a message about the bounce back I just booked and letting them know I'll be cancelling it before my 5 day window if this asinine policy hasn't been changed before May. It's bad enough they herd 100% all of us staying at the MK loop or wilderness through metal detectors like cattle when arriving at MK/ resort monorails while daily guest parking in the parking lots have less than a 10% chance of getting treated like a criminal.

I've had it, when our AP's are up in October we're done. I don't spend tens of thousands of dollars a year in WDW just to be treated like I'm staying in prison. If I could get a refund now I would but we've already spent 3 weeks over two trips in WDW since we reupped our AP so that wouldn't be even remotely be in the cards.
 
I'll be honest - this ridiculous "security" policy is the tipping point for me. Adding EMH and 60 day Fastpass booking for offsite guests cemented my decision not to return to Disney. Two to three trips a year for the last twelve years -done.


Whoa! Offsite receives the same "privileges"?
 
It's like housekeeping is reporting they can't get into a room and then IMMEDIATELY you get a call or a knock from "security". That just seems absurd to me. The one story they literally had the entire morning and were next door. The man switched out the towels and the housekeeper could see into the room. Within 10 minutes they were barging in the room. JUST ABSURD!!

And now with the story of being bothered on check in day. I thought this policy wouldn't effect us since we usually just stay on property for one night. I figured we wouldn't be bothered at all, but if they're even knocking on check in day. UGH
 
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