Do Not Disturb Gone! (BLT)

[luvthemouse71]

58 people died and 546 people were injured during the Las Vegas shooting (per public records). If we cannot regulate guns or bump stocks used in shootings like that one, then hotels are forced to regulate visitors instead. I've seen a lot of comments about guest satisfaction, but I'm guessing that guest satisfaction would decrease if a similar incident occurred at a Disney property. WDW is doing the only thing it can do to limit liability. I may not be a corporation, but I respect the fact that they are trying to limit their liability and increase guest safety.

True, but 9/11 was partially committed with box cutters. Recently trucks have been used to kill people. Many shootings have happened in supposed “gun free” zones.

We are never going to be able to stop violence completely and taking away personal rights isn’t the way to go about this. All this is going to do is anger people and I believe it will impact Disney’s bottom line. Especially when you consider how overpriced their hotel rooms are already.

 

[AquamarineSteph]

We are never going to be able to stop violence completely and taking away personal rights isn’t the way to go about this. All this is going to do is anger people and I believe it will impact Disney’s bottom line. Especially when you consider how overpriced their hotel rooms are already.

You will never be able to deter the person who is willing to swap their life for a kill. True enough. But that doesn't mean that good people shouldn't try to prevent needless deaths.

 

[RockAndRollBallerina]

58 people died and 546 people were injured during the Las Vegas shooting (per public records). If we cannot regulate guns or bump stocks used in shootings like that one, then hotels are forced to regulate visitors instead. I've seen a lot of comments about guest satisfaction, but I'm guessing that guest satisfaction would decrease if a similar incident occurred at a Disney property. WDW is doing the only thing it can do to limit liability. I may not be a corporation, but I respect the fact that they are trying to limit their liability and increase guest safety.

This! Mandalay Bay is currently dealing with a class action lawsuit with 450 suing them. Which, I'm not sure any hotel wants to find themselves in their shoes. Unfortunately, the hotel industry had to learn the really hard way. That allowing guests to just leave the Do Not Disturb sign outside of the door for multiple days in a row, and not having a clue about what may or may not be happening in the room. Has forced Disney World, Hilton properties, and I'm sure others are in the process of as well. To put new policies and security procedures in place similar to what Disney is now doing. So they have an idea of what is, and isn't happening on their properties.

 

[bluejasmine]

I don't feel I have anything to hide, except I have the right to be in my undies or in the shower any time of the day without worry of a stranger walking in. I am paying to live in that room... The fact that this is happening and that ppl are actually arguing about it is just crazy...
I see a lawsuit happening, seriously in a day and age where ppl are all too happy to sue, its inevitable

 

[CarrieR]

I still maintain that being able to schedule your room check, or being able to delay it if they come at an inconvenient moment, defeats the entire purpose of the room check if the main reason for these checks is in fact "security". If you know when they're coming to see if you have guns set up in your room, then you know not to have your guns set up during that time frame. If they come while you're setting up your guns and you ask them through the door to please come back later since now is inconvenient, and they say "Oh, sure thing, our apologies for interrupting you!" then guess what, you get to continue on with your spree as planned.

I don't necessarily disagree with you. But at the end of the day, I am a customer trying to enjoy my vacation. Parks in the morning, nap in the afternoon, parks at night til you drop. We forego Mousekeeping in easily 50% of our stays - not because we want to, but because either a) they can't manage to make it to the room while I'm out of it or b) they've financially incentivized me to do so.

If - and I understand it's all speculation at this point - they are now going to insist on knocking on my door at 2PM (when Mousekeeping usually manages to make it to my room), it will be a problem for my vacation style. No nap = no ability to swing our "late night, early morning" style of touring, which is what enables us to manage the crowds. So for my traveling party, it's a big deal. If we need to give up our touring style in the name of "security," then I foresee us finding a vacation destination where we can vacation as we wish.

It seems that, in lieu of (useless) room checks that disrupt my vacation style, it might be worth it to "profile" each guest's LILO file. "Annual Passholder, hundred-plus non-destructive days of park admission and nights at resorts, staying in first floor Pop Century room, Building 7, with view of giant water pipe and edge of parking lot" seems pretty low-risk. What, pray tell, am I going to hit from that room... the water main?!

 

[xiphoid76]

We are going there next week to contemporary and will report back. People seem to be more upset about this policy than the dog one. I love keeping the ‘do not disturb’ sign up so I will keep the ‘room occupied’ sign up this time and see what happens.

I am not that concerned as it worked fine for me in nyc and vegas with same issues at hotels, but I am very protective of my nap time . Let’s see how disney handles it. Will be back In January.

 

[mjr0483]

I still maintain that being able to schedule your room check, or being able to delay it if they come at an inconvenient moment, defeats the entire purpose of the room check if the main reason for these checks is in fact "security". If you know when they're coming to see if you have guns set up in your room, then you know not to have your guns set up during that time frame. If they come while you're setting up your guns and you ask them through the door to please come back later since now is inconvenient, and they say "Oh, sure thing, our apologies for interrupting you!" then guess what, you get to continue on with your spree as planned.

Well I totally disagree with you. If you know the daily check is coming. Set up the Room occupied sign. Wait for your check. After they leave, go to your car and grab you bag and you are good to go until the next day.

 

[WEDWDW]

Maybe the main reason Disney is doing this is just as a possible "deterrent" much like Home Secutiry systems(even the "Dummy" stickers and cameras).

If a burglar sees a home has a security system,they are much more likely to move on to a Home without one,so maybe the idea is if a terrorist knows Disney does room checks,they will not want to make an attempt there.

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

Maybe the main reason Disney is doing this is just as a possible "deterrent" much like Home Secutiry systems(even the "Dummy" stickers and cameras).

If a burglar sees a home has a security system,they are much more likely to move on to a Home without one,so maybe the idea is if a terrorist knows Disney does room checks,they will not want to make an attempt there.

Then they shouldn't advertise it, at least to DVC, as some wonderful benefit to members.

 

[BK2014]

I don't feel I have anything to hide, except I have the right to be in my undies or in the shower any time of the day without worry of a stranger walking in. I am paying to live in that room... The fact that this is happening and that ppl are actually arguing about it is just crazy...
I see a lawsuit happening, seriously in a day and age where ppl are all too happy to sue, its inevitable

That is the thing - the threat of a lawsuit doesn't scare a large company like Disney. What likely scares them is the possibility a lawsuit that they might actually lose or have to pay out a large amount of money. It seems like some people in this thread assume that Disney enacted this policy without consulting with legal experts. Legal experts who likely told them that they are far more likely lose a lawsuit when there is loss of life on their property versus a lawsuit or lawsuits by guests who are inconvenienced by new security measures.

If I had to guess, I would suspect that once this policy has been rolled out, people are aware of the policy, and enough people have complained, that it will be scaled back and becomes a policy that largely allows WDW to profile its guests. Meaning they will retain the right to check your room everyday, and make sure that you know that, but only really do so if they feel the need to.

 

[bluejasmine]

I found this online
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...o-not-disturb-signs-at-some-hotels-2017-12-28

So apparently right now its just at monorail resorts but they are looking to implement at other resorts eventually

 

[TLSnell1981]

Maybe the main reason Disney is doing this is just as a possible "deterrent" much like Home Secutiry systems(even the "Dummy" stickers and cameras).

If a burglar sees a home has a security system,they are much more likely to move on to a Home without one,so maybe the idea is if a terrorist knows Disney does room checks,they will not want to make an attempt there.

I'm going with CYA for legal purposes. Another "magical enhancement", yeah. Disney will pass the price tag onto the "guest".

 

[TLSnell1981]

Then they shouldn't advertise it, at least to DVC, as some wonderful benefit to members.

No worries. This new benefit will be reflected in our dues.

 

[luvthemouse71]

I’m bringing my own Do Not Disturb sign. Heck, people get all crafty, decorating their doors and windows, so I’ll use my creativity and make my own sign. Can you imagine if everyone did this? It would send a pretty strong message.

I think if people make the roll out of this policy stressful and/or annoying enough to implement, they may back down. You don’t have to do anything violent. If they walk in unannounced, scream at the top of your lungs and cry hysterically. Or, as I posted before, when they come in, make them uncomfortable by implying that twisted sexual shenanigans have been interrupted. Bonus points if it’s a dog friendly resort and you imply the dog is a participant. The previously mentioned idea of answering the door in your underwear is good too.

On second thought, this may be kind of fun..

 

[bluejasmine]

It wouldn't deter Disney policy though.... While Im irritated to no end about it, I also understand they are doing it for everyones safety..

 

[luvthemouse71]

Obviously, I’d want to take a look at the type of door handle the room has but here is an option. https://www.amazon.com/Calslock-Portable-Door-Travel-Lock/dp/B00GMPFCNC

It would prevent them walking in unannounced at least, especially if they end up taking the deadbolts off..

 

[luvthemouse71]

It wouldn't deter Disney policy though.... While Im irritated to no end about it, I also understand they are doing it for everyones safety..

who’s to say? They’ve backed down before.

This is a dumb idea. They’re installing metal detectors, I’m fine with that. I never minded the bag checks. But this isn’t going to prevent anything. If someone wants to bring weapons to a resort, it is possible to do so. The person could just drive down and hide them in the car. I highly doubt that a shooter would choose a resort as a target anyway. They most likely would target a park or Disney Springs. As a matter of fact, didn’t the Pulse nightclub shooter have Disney Springs as a possible target? The hotels in Vegas are taller so it was easy to aim down at people. The resorts at WDW aren’t set up like that..

Sad how so many people today just comply with policies that they think will make them safe. You can never be completely safe. Murder and death happen every day. While it may be nice to think Disney has our safety at heart in this, it is to cover their own butts, plain and simple.

 

[TLSnell1981]

They most likely would target a park or Disney Springs. As a matter of fact, didn’t the Pulse nightclub shooter have Disney Springs as a possible target? .

Yes definitely Disney Springs. No metal detectors and all those folks coming down elevators into a bottle neck..huge target IMO.

 

[luvthemouse71]

Yes definitely Disney Springs. No metal detectors and all those folks coming down elevators into a bottle neck..huge target IMO.

And yet, no metal detectors or bag checks there..there was a rape on Disney Springs property a couple of years ago.

Recently,there was also a pedophile sting operation done in Florida where some of the people netted were WDW, Universal and Seaworld cast members. https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs...rests-disney-universal-and-seaworld-employees

I don’t see Disney stressing out much about that. Sure, just allow someone with a possible pedophile bent access to guest rooms. What could go wrong there?

 

[anomamatt]

Another few days at poly and still no problems. Have not been disturbed. Naps have not been a problem. Nothing seems different than previous stays, except the “off to neverland” door tag. Has been 4 days now.