Do Not Disturb Gone! (BLT)

[Sammie]

Except when when during that time period of DISNEY's choosing...you would like to bath your children, nap your child, have sex or just be plain LEFT ALONE. Without a security agent entering your private space ! Every day.

They could have come in during any of that. Now you will know to expect it. They will inspect rooms during housekeeping times or will come back. Just make sure you leave your sign off the door while you are out of the room and that is when it will be accessed. Regardless of what many on here would think, Disney is really not into making their guests upset.

 

[tim123]

[QUOTE=" Disney is really not into making their guests upset.[/QUOTE]

Except those thousands of guests who would like to bath their children, nap their child, have sex or just be plain LEFT ALONE. Without a security agent entering their private space ..Every day.!

 

[Farro]

is there an echo in here?

 

[disneyseniors]

We will be at POFQ end of FEb to March 7th,so will have first hand knowledge to post then. We left our favorite resort, POR, because we choose not to vacation with other peoples dogs. That's our choice.
I have stated before, the noon time rest/naps are required for health reasons, to be able to function and go to the parks like everyone else. I will explain this to the CM on check in so that they are aware of this.
Bottom line, if I have to worry about not getting the required rest I need each day, that will seriously affect the quality of my vacation. It does not matter WHY you want privacy, it onlymatters that you do, and you are on vacation. You don't need to explain why you want to be alone, that's not anyone's business.
I won't go over the deep end until I experience this myself. I can't really see Disney going out of their way to make hordes of guests upset, but maybe I'm wrong? Anyway, a real life visit will be posted on our return.

 

[CrankyDad]

But Hilton's policy is not the same as Disney's policy.

Have no issue with housekeeping coming each day, do have a problem with Disney sending men in my room at off hours, uninvited and walking in on guests. Hilton also involves training for many other employee observations throughout the resort.

You work for Hilton? I do.. Current GM with them and been so for a long time. The hotel industry has always had eyes in the guest rooms. We have a vested interest in your safety and others. Also to protect our property.

Some Brands might be less diligent then others or more subtle about their process. Disney is being a little more transparent and that is fine.

What you have to realize is that guests flat out lie. There are people here that will come and post things that are not true. They want a reaction and will say things that they know will get people fired up because they feed off it.

Don’t let them get you worked up. You will get your rest, your privacy and respect. Both the hotel needs and the guests can work together.

 

[monsterkitty]

If you're worried about them barging in while you're taking a nap, bathing, or whatever, put the "Room Occupied" hanger on the door with maybe a sticky note or write in Vis a Vis pen on the hanger, "sleeping, please return at such and such a time." If you're in the room put the hanger up. If you're not in the room, take it down.

Disney wants to make $$ and they know that if they make guests cranky and upset, they're not going to make that cash. Right now they are in the learning stages with this new policy. Let them learn and make the necessary adjustments. If they do walk in on you, complain. If you had the "Room Occupied" hanger up complain louder. Just remember the person you're complaining too didn't make the policy so when you do complain louder, still treat the CM with respect.

 

[Tinkerbell2017]

You work for Hilton? I do.. Current GM with them and been so for a long time. The hotel industry has always had eyes in the guest rooms. We have a vested interest in your safety and others. Also to protect our property.

Some Brands might be less diligent then others or more subtle about their process. Disney is being a little more transparent and that is fine.

What you have to realize is that guests flat out lie. There are people here that will come and post things that are not true. They want a reaction and will say things that they know will get people fired up because they feed off it.

Don’t let them get you worked up. You will get your rest, your privacy and respect. Both the hotel needs and the guests can work together.

Thank you, a voice of reason.

 

[GTApex]

Thank you, a voice of reason.

Reason and logic will eventually suck the fun out of this thread... people really ha

Thank you, a voice of reason.

Logic and reason will eventually suck the fun out of this thread... but that’s probably a good thing.

 

[Tinkerbell2017]

Reason and logic will eventually suck the fun out of this thread... people really ha


Logic and reason will eventually suck the fun out of this thread... but that’s probably a good thing.

It's sad that making people paranoid about people walking in on them while they're in the bathroom is a fun thread. Logic suggests that the new policy will be done well and respect all guests. They are looking out for the safety of everybody.

 

[MolonLabe]

I still maintain that being able to schedule your room check, or being able to delay it if they come at an inconvenient moment, defeats the entire purpose of the room check if the main reason for these checks is in fact "security". If you know when they're coming to see if you have guns set up in your room, then you know not to have your guns set up during that time frame. If they come while you're setting up your guns and you ask them through the door to please come back later since now is inconvenient, and they say "Oh, sure thing, our apologies for interrupting you!" then guess what, you get to continue on with your spree as planned.

It was mentioned earlier about different segments of population just not having enough knowledge about either security or firearms to form an educated opinion on this new policy.

Total setup time for the Vegas murderer could have been done in 5-10 minutes (excluding the security cameras he setup) and that would include dragging tables around.

Magazines can be loaded days, weeks or years in advance. Arrange them in your suitcase appropriately and you don't even have to take them out and set them up. Just unzip and done.

Security check during your "setup time"? Be it 5 minutes or 5 hours? open the door, smile and either do them at that instant or let them step through the door. It's not like the single shot or knife in the neck is going to bring any greater response than the barrage to follow. The Las Vegas police took 17 minutes to just get into the hotel after the security guard was shot and that was 10 minutes before the murderer open fire on the concert. it was nearly 30 before they got to his floor and an hour till they kicked in his door. I would hope OCSO would be more timely but we don't know.

When we look at the new policy in totality we can see that unless they are sending armed teams (teams, not a lone unarmed individual) and inspecting all room contents, the new policy will do nothing to stop a mass murderer.

The only thing I could see as working would be a lock down for Contemporary main building and BLT to prevent a Vegas hit from a TPV room. I've stayed on the 10th and 12th floors TPV and taken some awesome photos with my DSLR down into the park.

You also wouldn't need room checks if everything and everyone was checked coming in. In theory, these are the only two resorts I'd consider supporting those measures.

 

[JacknSally]

It was mentioned earlier about different segments of population just not having enough knowledge about either security or firearms to form an educated opinion on this new policy.

Total setup time for the Vegas murderer could have been done in 5-10 minutes (excluding the security cameras he setup) and that would include dragging tables around.

Magazines can be loaded days, weeks or years in advance. Arrange them in your suitcase appropriately and you don't even have to take them out and set them up. Just unzip and done.

Security check during your "setup time"? Be it 5 minutes or 5 hours? open the door, smile and either do them at that instant or let them step through the door. It's not like the single shot or knife in the neck is going to bring any greater response than the barrage to follow. The Las Vegas police took 17 minutes to just get into the hotel after the security guard was shot and that was 10 minutes before the murderer open fire on the concert. it was nearly 30 before they got to his floor and an hour till they kicked in his door. I would hope OCSO would be more timely but we don't know.

When we look at the new policy in totality we can see that unless they are sending armed teams (teams, not a lone unarmed individual) and inspecting all room contents, the new policy will do nothing to stop a mass murderer.

The only thing I could see as working would be a lock down for Contemporary main building and BLT to prevent a Vegas hit from a TPV room. I've stayed on the 10th and 12th floors TPV and taken some awesome photos with my DSLR down into the park.

You also wouldn't need room checks if everything and everyone was checked coming in. In theory, these are the only two resorts I'd consider supporting those measures.

Right, that's my point that I've made from the beginning. Unless they happen to do their checks right when someone happens to be setting up, or go through every bag/safe/drawer/closet in the room, these checks aren't going to do what they're saying they will - help prevent another Las Vegas type event. Even if they do happen to check at just that moment, the likelihood of the mousekeeper (or "Security steward") being able to actually DO anything in that moment is low.

My previous post which you quoted was in response to someone else saying you could just ask them to come back later if their check happens at a time that inconveniences you. Well, if they start doing these checks on the guest's schedule, then all that does is make it even easier for a Las Vegas style event to happen - especially because a person doesn't need days of uninterruption to set up their arsenal. If someone knows when the check will be, they just set off their plan before or after the check. Easy. If they don't know when the check will be, but can yell through the door "Please come back in an hour, now's not a good time" and whoever is checking says "Oh, ok, sure!" then they just got an hour to go about their business. Sure, they could specify that the kids are napping or their wife is in the shower - but how does the checker know that's actually the case? Someone getting ready to fire off some rounds could say that exact same thing. I don't think you'll be able to request a specific time for your check to happen, or ask them to just come back later, because they need to be able to catch you/your room off guard to attempt to maximize the effectiveness of these safety checks.

 

[Sammie]

[QUOTE=" Disney is really not into making their guests upset.

Except those thousands of guests who would like to bath their children, nap their child, have sex or just be plain LEFT ALONE. Without a security agent entering their private space ..Every day.![/QUOTE]

Seriously if all that activity is going to involve all waking hours, not sure why you would even go to Disney, it would be much less expensive to stay home. They are not going to be bother guests round the clock. I think some just look for something to get upset about it. There will be plenty of time while you are out of the room.

 

[old lady]

This has to do with that monster who start killing innocent people in Vegas. They should ignore do not disturb signs like that if there is someone who is harming other people.

 

[luvthemouse71]

Mine is not hysteria although I think some of the things ppl mention are legit concerns. Mine is that if I do not want to be disturbed, I do not want to be disturbed or get up to answer the door to tell you that I do not want to be disturbed. It’s vacation & some of us travel to wdw often so it’s not once every 5 years that this will effect us. And I can vacation other places or stay off-site, but it’s frustrating that WDW continues to ignore guests requests/concerns. They send out stupid surveys imo about stuff that doesn’t matter, but then do things like this & the dog thing with no guest input. The dog policy doesn’t bother me, but, like this, it was forced on guests with existing reservations with little to no warning.

I agree. And, I’m quite sure there are guests that have had bad experiences with strangers. The family down the street from me experienced a home invasion, the husband and wife were beat up but not killed, thank God. Is that an extreme case? Sure. But, I’m sure staff just coming into a hotel room would bother people that have had that experience. What about women who have been raped? Or those who have PTSD from violent crime?

There have already been cases of housekeepers either stealing or letting in friends of theirs to do so. I believe there was an attempted rape a few years ago by a cast member too. This policy doesn’t make things more secure at all when you think about it.

I am a user of the deadbolt most of the time, but who’s to say that they won’t take those off of the doors next?

 

[MolonLabe]

Except those thousands of guests who would like to bath their children, nap their child, have sex or just be plain LEFT ALONE. Without a security agent entering their private space ..Every day.!

Seriously if all that activity is going to involve all waking hours, not sure why you would even go to Disney, it would be much less expensive to stay home. They are not going to be bother guests round the clock. I think some just look for something to get upset about it. There will be plenty of time while you are out of the room.[/QUOTE]
Your touring plans must be way different than most.

My wife and I did our honeymoon in WDW many moons ago. Mid at peak crowd levels we were back in the room napping and 'napping'... wink wink. We were also closing MK every night when most were sound asleep.

Flash forward to today, we're actually napping or relaxing in our room with our children (now 11 and 13) during peak hours noon to 5pmish. We will do MK on Saturday, EMH end at 3am, guess what we'll be doing at noon on Sunday? just waking up and heading to EP for NYE. Guess what NY day will bring? Sleeping in till noon again probably.

Everyone tours differently and 'waking hours ' isn't 9-5. Anywhere.

 

[LSUmiss]

Except those thousands of guests who would like to bath their children, nap their child, have sex or just be plain LEFT ALONE. Without a security agent entering their private space ..Every day.!

Seriously if all that activity is going to involve all waking hours, not sure why you would even go to Disney, it would be much less expensive to stay home. They are not going to be bother guests round the clock. I think some just look for something to get upset about it. There will be plenty of time while you are out of the room.[/QUOTE]
And I think some ppl will tolerate any intrusion or inconvenience in the name of false security.

 

[luvthemouse71]

Well, since we don't usually do any of those activities while housekeeping is in the room, and their visit will suffice for the daily visit, I think we will be okay!

Now, that’s when I’m going to choose to have sex. I’m going to purchase some scary looking gear, maybe like that character from Pulp Fiction, wait until the “security team” tries to come in, and then go to town.

Serve them right if they can’t get that image out of their head!

 

[luvthemouse71]

It seems to me that Disney is going out of its way to erode the magical customer experience. My trips in 2018 maybe my last. They are getting to the point of being overpriced and over scheduled if you want to accomplish anything. They are killing for me the resort experience by thinking of dogs as "guests" and they have done away with the special theme of the resort with generic "hotel" room décor to make clean up easier. Now resort checks upon all the other park "security" checks which just makes another line to tackle. The world is fooling its self if they think all this so called security is going to stop someone bent on bringing destruction to others. Those countries which have low crime rates are because the punishment is swift and severe. To paraphrase Ben Franklin "those who give up liberty to gain security will soon find they will have neither."

Yup, used to go to WDW several times a year. I don’t now, because the experience just isn’t worth the price anymore. I’ve been doing the cruise thing lately and have been enjoying that.

It going to be interesting to see how many cast members get karate chopped or pepper sprayed because of this stupid policy. I’m a city girl, I trust no one..

 

[AquamarineSteph]

58 people died and 546 people were injured during the Las Vegas shooting (per public records). If we cannot regulate guns or bump stocks used in shootings like that one, then hotels are forced to regulate visitors instead. I've seen a lot of comments about guest satisfaction, but I'm guessing that guest satisfaction would decrease if a similar incident occurred at a Disney property. WDW is doing the only thing it can do to limit liability. I may not be a corporation, but I respect the fact that they are trying to limit their liability and increase guest safety.

 

[luvthemouse71]

There are various ways to secure a hotel room. First is using the deadbolt but there are options if they ever decide to remove them. Some are very cheap. Lots of different options on Amazon...