Do I get six fast passes +??

[bigskip]

I think it is more like sour grapes than uptight. They can't have it so harass someone else and try to make them feel like they are doing something wrong as a parent so they don't do it. I have seen some polite posters saying they would never spend the money, but here is how to do it. That is a respectful comment. People don't choose to spend their money the same way, but doesn't mean you are wrong in spending money differently. Honestly some of the bashing the OP is taking is just ridiculous

No sour grapes or uptightedness here, just my opinion as asked for by posting a question on a public website.

I am entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours.

 

[nugov2]

Maybe your child needs to learn at an early age that you can't have everything you want right now?

Surely it would be better to try, rather than teach them that you can buy your way out of any problem?

You asked to be judged "am i a bad parent?" was your question.

No sour grapes or uptightedness here, just my opinion as asked for by posting a question on a public website.

I am entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours.

Your right and my opinion is still that of sour grapes...can't have don't want others having it it

Nowhere do I see the OP ask if buying extra tickets would make her a bad parent...so not sure why you are telling her it does. Maybe I missed it though.

All the comments I quoted by you are IMO beyond rude and to me that kind of nastiness is fueled by strong emotions that like I've already said I feel is jealousy, because otherwise I don't know why you'd have such a strong reaction to something so minor. JMO

 

[ChipnDale79]

Your right and my opinion is still that of sour grapes...can't have don't want others having it it

Nowhere do I see the OP ask if buying extra tickets would make her a bad parent...so not sure why you are telling her it does. Maybe I missed it though.

All the comments I quoted by you are IMO beyond rude and to me that kind of nastiness is fueled by strong emotions that like I've already said I feel is jealousy, because otherwise I don't know why you'd have such a strong reaction to something so minor. JMO

I read all of those comments by bigskip and thought they were beyond rude as well.

I'd love to know if they had any idea what's its like to raise a child.

I have a 1 year old and a 2 year old, people with that type of attitude towards parents with little kids is absurd.

 

[jenninaustin]

You asked to be judged "am i a bad parent?" was your question.

I don't think that was OP's question on this thread. It was "do I get 6 FP+s" if extra ticket is purchased.

Just to clarify.

 

[klitteral2009]

I think what the OP wants to do is her prerogative. Do I think it makes sense? No. But then again you're looking at someone who has 30k in disposable income to have a Club 33 membership. Money is the answer for some people. If I had that kind of money I don't know that I wouldn't be looking for ways to buy more FP too but to pass it off as your 2 year old needs them because they 'can't' wait in line is absurd. It's the OP who wants to avoid the lines and not have to 'manage' her toddler in a line. Threads like this make people comment the way they do because a lot of us have to save and budget for our Disney trips. We can't all just buy our way to the front of every line. Everyone is looking for instant gratification nowadays.

And as I was told in a seperate thread the other day, this is a discussion board. Everyone has an opinion, and if you ask a question you had better be prepared for a variety of responses...positive, negative and yes, sometimes downright snippy.

 

[tinkerbellybutton]

My 3yr old is very capable of waiting and he sits very well at a table to eat just like my other 2(and did last year in WDW when he was 2). We ALWAYS buy FOTL passes for the extra costs when at a theme park. Not because my kids can't wait in line...we don't want to wait in line. If I can pay to avoid it, I will. Just like I valet my car at restaurants and pay for a lot of other extras perks in life that give us more enjoyment. For us that cost is just factored into our vacation, just like nice restaurant options and extra experiences. Does it make my kids spoiled brats, nope. They don't demand it or even ask for it. When at WDW they didn't even want souvenirs. They don't ask for anything in a store when shopping and they never get anything except for at birthdays or holidays. Every family is different and we view a vacation as a place to be very extravagant and don't go "budget friendly". WDW or any other vacation shouldn't have to require spending less so that the kids learn to be well behaved people....they should do that no matter what experiences they are able to have. Saying people shouldn't spend money to have better vacation opportunities is the same as saying you shouldn't stay deluxe and only at value or your kids will be snobs.

I understand what your saying, but my post, as you can go back and see, was really aimed toward the person who suggested that a 2 year old can't be taught to wait their turn. Something along the lines of "try teaching that to any two year old", as if it as an impossible task. My point was that a 2 year should be more than capable of learning to wait their turn, not just in Disney, but in life.

 

[ChipnDale79]

I think what the OP wants to do is her prerogative. Do I think it makes sense? No. But then again you're looking at someone who has 30k in disposable income to have a Club 33 membership. Money is the answer for some people. If I had that kind of money I don't know that I wouldn't be looking for ways to buy more FP too but to pass it off as your 2 year old needs them because they 'can't' wait in line is absurd. It's the OP who wants to avoid the lines and not have to 'manage' her toddler in a line. Threads like this make people comment the way they do because a lot of us have to save and budget for our Disney trips. We can't all just buy our way to the front of every line. Everyone is looking for instant gratification nowadays.

And as I was told in a seperate thread the other day, this is a discussion board. Everyone has an opinion, and if you ask a question you had better be prepared for a variety of responses...positive, negative and yes, sometimes downright snippy.

Agree with what you said here, but don't think people shouldn't be telling other people how to raise their children? That's crossing the line IMO.

 

[bigskip]

I don't think that was OP's question on this thread. It was "do I get 6 FP+s" if extra ticket is purchased.

Just to clarify.

Jenn. You're right, that was her other thread, which i have referred to in this thread also.

Sorry to cross pollinate, but i think the extra fast pass question and the "should i force my child to ride a ride they don't like" are linked.

 

[klitteral2009]

Agree with what you said here, but don't think people shouldn't be telling other people how to raise their children? That's crossing the line IMO.

Yes and no. I don't really see anyone trying to tell her how to raise her child but more of what they do, what they've seen out of other children etc. If this would have simply been "can I buy more tickets to get more FP+" I think it would have been a far different discussion. The OP chose to explain why, and opened her decisions up to discussion.

Like I said, it's her trip, and her money so she can do as she likes. All I'm saying, and what I believe others Are trying to say is that maybe teaching a child a little patience wouldn't be such a bad thing either. It can be done.

 

[bigskip]

Your right and my opinion is still that of sour grapes...can't have don't want others having it it

Nowhere do I see the OP ask if buying extra tickets would make her a bad parent...so not sure why you are telling her it does. Maybe I missed it though.

All the comments I quoted by you are IMO beyond rude and to me that kind of nastiness is fueled by strong emotions that like I've already said I feel is jealousy, because otherwise I don't know why you'd have such a strong reaction to something so minor. JMO

Jealous of someone who wants to terrorise her child? I think not...

And i have not called her a bad parent - anywhere. I'm not qualified to answer that question, all i can do is offer my opinion, as was asked for.

And where have i said i can't have something. I'm very happy with my plans for my next visit. Got all the ADR's i wanted, and will be sure to get the FP+ i want to get. Lucky old me gets a 14 day ticket

 

[dimndgal1]

I'm sure you have your reasons for going over Easter period but it would be beyond cheaper and a lot less waiting in lines to move your trip a week or two after Easter. Just a thought - especially since your DD is not in school.

FWIW, I take offense to the thought that you can't teach a 2 year old to wait. Do 2 year olds like to wait? No, but it is a sad look on today's society if people just dismiss the ability to teach a toddler the lesson. My DD HATES waiting but she does it because we taught her that if Mommy and Daddy are waiting for something it's probably worth it.

I know not every child will wait well, but there truly is no time like the present to teach the lesson that sometimes you can't have immediate gratification. My 6 yo has ADD and still has been able to wait in line since 18 months old on our first DL trip. Do I have to be prepared? yes... but it's ridiculous to say children that young can't be taught. Patience seems to be lacking in children nowadays and I can't help but wonder if it's because we as parents aren't patient enough to teach it.

*~* OP, this is not directed at you but to the many posters I see talk about how pointless/impossible/unlikely it is to teach children to wait *~*

 

[klitteral2009]

I'm sure you have your reasons for going over Easter period but it would be beyond cheaper and a lot less hassle to move your trip a week or two after Easter. Just a thought - especially since your DD is not in school. FWIW, I take offense to the thought that you can't teach a 2 year old to wait. Do 2 year olds like to wait? No, but it is a sad look on today's society if people just dismiss the ability to teach a toddler the lesson. My DD HATES waiting but she does it because we taught her that if Mommy and Daddy are waiting for something it's probably worth it. I know not every child will wait well, but there truly is no time like the present to teach the lesson that sometimes you can't have immediate gratification. My 6 yo has ADD and still has been able to wait in line since 18 months old on our first DL trip. Do I have to be prepared? yes... but it's ridiculous to say children that young can't be taught. Patience seems to be lacking in children nowadays and I can't help but wonder if it's because we as parents aren't patient enough to teach it. *~* OP, this is not directed at you but to the many posters I see talk about how pointless/impossible/unlikely it is to teach children to wait *~*

Well said!

 

[nugov2]

Jealous of someone who wants to terrorise her child? I think not...

And i have not called her a bad parent - anywhere. I'm not qualified to answer that question, all i can do is offer my opinion, as was asked for.

And where have i said i can't have something. I'm very happy with my plans for my next visit. Got all the ADR's i wanted, and will be sure to get the FP+ i want to get. Lucky old me gets a 14 day ticket

Thank you everyone for the wonderful advice and for understanding, I will definitely skip HM our next trip, she is usually very adventurous and she has ridden Pirates of the Caribbean and she liked it a lot, she was singing Yoho Yoho the whole ride, I think the elevator part was a bit too much for her, and the reason I asked is because as soon as we were out of the mansion she was perfectly happy chasing ducks lol, but I will wait and I appreciate I was not too harshly judged

Thanks again
^^^^^^^^

This is what she posts. I personally would not make my child ride something they didn't want to ride and it looks like she asked and rethought the idea. Sometimes we bounce ideas off each other....she put it out there, listened and responded to the advice in a respectful way. How is any of that terrorizing her child. She didn't know her dd would freak until she was in the situation. My brother brought his 2 yr old twins on HM while I left mine off with my mom. His kids were fine though they did get nervous when the lights went off. Just b/c they are 2 doesn't mean they aren't going to like something.

I am curious...how is taking your child on a ride they don't want to ride the same as purchasing more FP...they don't seem related at all. And no..you did not specifically call her bad...but you did offer some very harsh criticism that IMO hinted at that very sentiment.

 

[SharonS]

Of course, people are entitled to do whatever they want. However, this kind of attitude displayed by the OP and many others here is EXACTLY why we are now where we are with Disney and all of the restrictions/enforcement. Everyone is looking for a way to scam/beat the system. I am quite sure that Disney did not intend for folks to buy additional park tickets in order to get around the FP restriction. Next thing, they will raise park tickets even more to help discourage this practice.

Everyone wants their trip to be perfect. I am not happy with the new system and waiting in line more, but like most, I am making the best of it, trying to utilize a touring strategy that is going to minimize the effects as much as possible on me, and like many others, have had to revise my expectations.

Why can't people just play by the rules. If Disney went back to no FP, just stand-by, folks would have no choice but to work within the system, plan as effectively as they could to see as much possible, and be happy.

The first time I went to WDW was 1973 and there was no FP, no multiple parks. I remember waiting an hour for Country Bears! And guess what, I also remember having wonderful trips and loving Disney so much, that we then continued to go every year. Back then, you also didn't have everyone trying to work the disability system and getting a wheel chair or using ADD as an excuse that 'Johnny can't stand in line'

 

[mom2rtk]

Of course, people are entitled to do whatever they want. However, this kind of attitude displayed by the OP and many others here is EXACTLY why we are now where we are with Disney and all of the restrictions/enforcement. Everyone is looking for a way to scam/beat the system. I am quite sure that Disney did not intend for folks to buy additional park tickets in order to get around the FP restriction. Next thing, they will raise park tickets even more to help discourage this practice.

Everyone wants their trip to be perfect. I am not happy with the new system and waiting in line more, but like most, I am making the best of it, trying to utilize a touring strategy that is going to minimize the effects as much as possible on me, and like many others, have had to revise my expectations.

Why can't people just play by the rules. If Disney went back to no FP, just stand-by, folks would have no choice but to work within the system, plan as effectively as they could to see as much possible, and be happy.

The first time I went to WDW was 1973 and there was no FP, no multiple parks. I remember waiting an hour for Country Bears! And guess what, I also remember having wonderful trips and loving Disney so much, that we then continued to go every year. Back then, you also didn't have everyone trying to work the disability system and getting a wheel chair or using ADD as an excuse that 'Johnny can't stand in line'

Disney is in the business of selling tickets. If they could figure out a way to start selling two tickets to every patron, someone would get a bonus.

 

[jimim]

oh boy let the flaming begin. this should be an interesting one.

 

[Redarrow5150]

I agree with what you say but don't recall asking for an opinion on how to teach her 2 year old to wait. The question was on buying tickets and the reason for doing so. The subject is buying tickets not teaching the 2 year old to wait.

Jealous of someone who wants to terrorise her child? I think not...

And i have not called her a bad parent - anywhere. I'm not qualified to answer that question, all i can do is offer my opinion, as was asked for.

And where have i said i can't have something. I'm very happy with my plans for my next visit. Got all the ADR's i wanted, and will be sure to get the FP+ i want to get. Lucky old me gets a 14 day ticket

 

[MacDalt]

Try teaching that to any two year old...

I do it every single day.

 

[TJA]

So I am going to WDW for Easter week, it is my first time going in this time of the year and from what I been reading the parks will be packed so I am a bit worried that even with 3 fast pass reservations I am not going to be able to get on any rides without having to go through crazy lines which is not am option for me since my two year old is not very good at waiting in long lines, do you think it is possible to buy another set of tickets so I will be able to reserve six attractions in advance???

We are also going to WDW easter week, and we have many times before. We have twins and have taken them to WDW a few times a year since they were 7 months old, so I can chime in with advice from our experiences. Can you get to the parks at or close to opening time? If so, go to the most popular rides and there shouldn't be too long of lines. Have your FP+ set for the afternoon time slots when the parks get busier. You should be able to do a lot before the parks get super packed.

As far as your 2 year old waiting in lines, we used to bring snacks and have their sippy cups along to keep them busy, also little toys and some misty fans. We were pleasantly surprised at how good they were -- sometimes we held them for a bit, other times we just held their hands.

I don't know the whole story with the HM discussion, but my girls went through a period where they were scared of everything, including characters! It was right around the 2 year old stage. But it didn't last long -- we just gradually started to add some rides and characters back in to our touring and the girls let us know what they were okay with and what they weren't. Eventually, they loved everything again without fear. Just test the waters to see your child's reaction to things and go from there.

 

[hakepb]

Don't forget having to go through bag check more than once. 2 year olds have STUFF.

Can't fastpass bagcheck.

Exit and enter are generally both behind bag checkpoints, so I think it would be easy enough to loop back into an enter line without a bagcheck.

Some sites talked about dual tickets with FP- sometimes the gate CM would let you enter with both tickets in one stop.