Do I get six fast passes +??

[BuckeyeBama]

Better get ready to duck Buckeye...... Seems 'thems fighting words on this thread!
Lol

It is just the smart move - especially right now when you don't have to actually use the extra set of tickets. Frankly, I think that people who can afford to do this are crazy not to. You then set the extra tickets aside for a future trip.

But even if you have to use the extra set of tickets, over 10 park days the cost is minimal. Even if you ignore discounts and pay Disney's price, a 10 day ticket costs $377, or $37.70/day. That amounts to $12.57 per FP+ for the extra 3 per day. You would save at least 2 hours in lines with those 3 extra FP+ reservations. Seems like a no brainer (if you can afford it).

 

[dimndgal1]

I am not saying it is pointless/impossible/unlikely to teach my toddler to wait, what I am saying is, If I teach and educate my kids every single day for every single hour,and If I have the option while I am on vacation to have a break and give her a break too, and have what some people call some instant gratification and save ourselves endless waiting in lines, then by all means I am going to do just that, just as I will stay on site, and have housekeeping everyday, go eat to nice restaurants every day, and valet my car, because we are on VACATION and if this spoils me and my kids for the period our vacation last, I won't apologise for that, I know I posted on a public site and I am ready for everyones opinions and I respect them, but there are ways to express your differences of opinion without having to be rude, I am just saying how sad some people have to judge everything and the post rude comments thinking everything goes just because you have an opinion, lets not confuse liberty of expression, with the liberty to be an ***!!!!

I EXPRESSLY noted I was not pointing at you in my post as I am totally of the opinion that a vacation is a vacation. I was actually referring to the people who blanketly say all over the DIS that they can't teach a toddler to wait in line or that it's impossible to make a kid wait or ' of course my child can't be expected to wait'.

One neat thing about teaching children something is the hope they will carry it with them later. Is Disney a hard place for kids to remember all the lessons we try to teach them - Heck yeah! - however, my point is that if you spend some time in life working on something there's a chance it will carry over even in a place of such sensory overload as Disney.

I will point to you and say that there are much better ways of articulating your point than singling someone out who wasn't actually directing something at you and calling them a name.

 

[KYDisneyDad]

It is just the smart move - especially right now when you don't have to actually use the extra set of tickets. Frankly, I think that people who can afford to do this are crazy not to. You then set the extra tickets aside for a future trip. But even if you have to use the extra set of tickets, over 10 park days the cost is minimal. Even if you ignore discounts and pay Disney's price, a 10 day ticket costs $377, or $37.70/day. That amounts to $12.57 per FP+ for the extra 3 per day. You would save at least 2 hours in lines with those 3 extra FP+ reservations. Seems like a no brainer (if you can afford it).

Hey I totally agree! Whatever works for you then go with it! But it seems that something like that is likely to be highly criticized here, for what reason I don't know. Hope you have a great time!

 

[AndreaA]

Could you tell me how anyone was being an ***? All I see is discussion and statements of truth. If you don't want all opinions, you shouldn't post. Expecting everyone to be all rainbows and sunshine is unrealistic and totally uncharacteristic here.

It's "true" that the problems with the world today are people like the OP who want to "scam" the FP system? It's "true" that people just don't want to teach their kids patience? It's "true" that parents are selfish for considering ways to make their trip easier?

Umm, no, none of that is true, but it is all pretty ***y if you ask me.

 

[ljcastro18]

No, don't waste your money and use up other guests' FP+.

I've experienced Disney World during Christmas/NYE week four times in the past five years. As a result, I'd consider myself pretty capable of answering this question.

Christmas, New Years and July 4th are the most crowded times at WDW. During this past year's trip, MK saw a Phase 3 closure three times. I'm not sure how Easter compares to Christmas, but if it's anything close, I can assure you that you will not need 6 FP+ -- just a solid plan!

On Christmas I read everything I could get my hands on about FP+ and MagicBands. I'm in advertising, so aside from it being Disney related, I wanted to read up from a creative and business perspective. As a result, it left me and my family prepared and ready to plan the perfect trip.

At the 60-day mark I booked our FP+. I booked mostly morning/early afternoon FP+ or evening. The parks usually get incredibly crowded by 12pm or 1pm. As a result, we wake up early and get to the parks as close to Rope Drop as possible. On Christmas day, we get to MK for the last half hour of the morning EMH (we can't bring ourselves to wake up earlier than that!)

When we arrive early in the morning, we have our park app handy with the ride wait times called up. Let's say we arrive at 7:45am for EMH, and the park opens to public at 8am. Here's where the planning comes in Knowing the history of the crowds from the crowd forecasts and previous years, we know that most rides will be below a 30-minute wait from EMH (7am) through around 30 minutes after opening to public.

So, we know that we can ride Space Mountain in as little as 20 minutes. Okay, Space Mountain is easy to get to right after entering the park. A 20 minutes for Space Mountain on Xmas Day is unheard of, so no need to book that ride for FP, cross it off! As a result, we book the Buzz Lightyear ride (because that's one of the few rides my mom will go on and we can go on as a family) Thunder Mountain and Peter Pan.

Back to the plan... So we get to MK at 7:45am. We check the app and as expected, Space Mountain is a 30-minute wait. But we know it's in reality much shorter. My sister and I make a b-line to Space Mountain, leaving my parents behind. We're on and off the ride in 20 minutes.

The park is now open to public.

We have not had breakfast yet, so we decide to head to Gaston's for a cinnamon roll. On the way, we stop by It's a Small World. The wait time is 10 minutes (a quick note - always deduct about 5-10 minutes from continuous-load rides - Pirates, IASM, etc.) We're on and off IASM in about 15 minutes. It's now around 9:30am. We head to Gaston's. Fortunately, the park isn't incredibly packed yet. Maybe guests have not yet made their way to the back of the park. We sit down and eat our cinnamon rolls.

Now it's 10am and we have a FP+ for Big Thunder Mountain. My sister, dad and I are on and off the ride in around 10 minutes.

We have an 11am FP+ for Buzz Lightyear, so we have some time to kill. The app says Jungle Cruise is a 30-minute wait. For a crowded day, that's incredible. We head to Jungle Cruise and are done by 10:40am. We see that Pirates is a 25-minute wait. We ride Pirates and are done at 11:15.

Time to redeem our FP+ for Buzz. We head back over to Tomorrowland. Buzz standby is now at 40 minutes. Across the way we see a 100-minute wait for Space Mountain!

After riding Buzz it's now 11:45am. We have a 12pm FP+ for Peter Pan, and it's a good thing we do because standby is 75 minutes. We ride Peter Pan. By 12:30 the park is swamped. Sites report that MK is at a Phase 3 closure. It's evident by the Small World line, which extends to the Haunted Mansion!

We decide to head back to the hotel. We take a break before heading to dinner later that afternoon, then end the day at Magic Kingdom for the last hour of public park hours and the two hours of Evening EMH.

With a two year old, taking a break during a crowded day (or any day for that matter) is going to be inevitable. Get to the park very early each day during your vacation. Once it starts to get crazy crowded, go home for a nap or to relax. You can return to the park later in the day if you'd like to.

I promise - as packed as it may be.. you will be fine. Just plan ahead and use these tips:

- Take advantage of EMH
- Leave the park around 1pm - it will be too crowded
- Get to the park as early as possible. I'm not sure if people were opening gifts Christmas morning or what the reasoning was, but we basically walked on rides until 10am.
- Don't be a "sucker" for the new stuff on Easter Day. Stay out of Starbucks, avoid Fantasyland and "exploring" the new areas. Save that stuff for a less-crowded day (the day after or before) or during EMH. It will waste the time you can be using to go on rides and it's a tourist-crowd trap. Everyone will flock there when entering the park - don't be one of them!

Thank you so much for taking the time to post such wonderful tips!!!

 

[delmar411]

I also think it's a silly, expensive, hassle, too, but she won't need to book day of anymore. Prebooking FP+ has been extended to off-site visitors, so she can book 30 days out.

I agree though, a VIP tour would be a better use of those hundreds of dollars she wants to throw away.

Now that you mention that, yes she would need to make different MDE accounts to link the new tickets but if money wasn't an issue then she could easily purchase (not use to enter the park, just purchase) enough tickets and create enough MDE accounts that she could hold Fastpasses for every FP ride in the MK. It would take some really good scheduling to get them lined up properly so there was no backtracking.

I don't really care what another person does with their money or time...but now I'm seriously interested how many tickets it would take to line up the perfect MK day. LOL

 

[OtherScott]

If she can afford it, then she's still better off buying the VIP tour.

What am I missing? A VIP tour costs between $320-$380 per hour.

A Disney 5 day ticket costs $300.

Under her scenario, she'd need 2 since DD is under 3.

 

[klitteral2009]

It's "true" that the problems with the world today are people like the OP who want to "scam" the FP system? It's "true" that people just don't want to teach their kids patience? It's "true" that parents are selfish for considering ways to make their trip easier? Umm, no, none of that is true, but it is all pretty ***y if you ask me.

So you're saying patience is not something that should be taught to toddlers? Or that people having entitlement issues aren't a problem with people today?

Please don't misread my posts, nothing
Is being said with anger or snark. Just honest questions, truly. She presented herself as someone who couldn't be bothered to wait in a line under any circumstance. Is her child more special than others?

 

[TDC Nala]

Most of us would not be willing to purchase a whole new ticket and set up an MDX account for a 2 year old who doesn't need it anyway, just to get some extra fastpasses. But of course there are likely to be some who are willing to do that.

Don't know what that has to do with anyone's willingness to wait in lines. If she wants to spend the money on this, or even to buy three or more sets of tickets, she can.

 

[nugov2]

Could you tell me how anyone was being an ***? All I see is discussion and statements of truth. If you don't want all opinions, you shouldn't post. Expecting everyone to be all rainbows and sunshine is unrealistic and totally uncharacteristic here.

I will tell you how:

Posting that OP will be terrorizing her child...that you are teaching your child you can buy your way out of problems, say you should do a proper job and have your child stand in line...IMO it was pretty much one poster that I would think the poster was referring to as the ***...but I am not them and cannot say for sure. I think many expressed their view of it being a waste nicely and I think that is fine, but name calling and insinuating someone isn't doing a proper job...or causing harm to their child seems unnecessary IMO.

 

[Luckybee]

Disney is in the business of selling tickets. If they could figure out a way to start selling two tickets to every patron, someone would get a bonus.

Absolutely correct !!!

When I called Disney originally re : throwaway rooms i jokingly asked the cm whether 2 tickets would be an acceptable way to get add'l fp's. She laughed and said " Of course it would be , but you really dont need to go that far "

Do people on here really not understand that Disney is a business ?

This reminds me of the "throwaway" discussion where some actually tried to suggest there was something not quite right if someone booked in that manner when Disney was all for it.

 

[klitteral2009]

I will tell you how: Posting that OP will be terrorizing her child...that you are teaching your child you can buy your way out of problems, say you should do a proper job and have your child stand in line...IMO it was pretty much one poster that I would think the poster was referring to as the ***...but I am not them and cannot say for sure. I think many expressed their view of it being a waste nicely and I think that is fine, but name calling and insinuating someone isn't doing a proper job...or causing harm to their child seems unnecessary IMO.

I had forgotten about the other thread being brought up. I do agree with you there.

 

[KYDisneyDad]

Most of us would not be willing to purchase a whole new ticket and set up an MDX account for a 2 year old who doesn't need it anyway, just to get some extra fastpasses. But of course there are likely to be some who are willing to do that. Don't know what that has to do with anyone's willingness to wait in lines. If she wants to spend the money on this, or even to buy three or more sets of tickets, she can.

And that is their right to do so if they choose to.
I did get me wondering though, does anyone think there is some phrase or wording in Disneys small legal fine print something to the order of : "any single guest may redeem up to one valid park admission ticket per day" or something like that?
Never heard of something like that but you never know...

 

[EMode]

So you're saying patience is not something that should be taught to toddlers? Or that people having entitlement issues aren't a problem with people today?

Please don't misread my posts, nothing
Is being said with anger or snark. Just honest questions, truly. She presented herself as someone who couldn't be bothered to wait in a line under any circumstance. Is her child more special than others?

Where did she present that? She mentioned crazy long lines with a 2 year old. Is there anyone out there who actually wants to wait in crazy long lines with a toddler? If she can afford a ticket for her child and is using it to go on rides with her child so they will have a great WDW vacation then good for her

I don't know who the poster is who mentioned it, but I definitely agree about sour grapes.

 

[nugov2]

So you're saying patience is not something that should be taught to toddlers? Or that people having entitlement issues aren't a problem with people today?

Please don't misread my posts, nothing
Is being said with anger or snark. Just honest questions, truly. She presented herself as someone who couldn't be bothered to wait in a line under any circumstance. Is her child more special than others?

Nope she isn't, but she has more money to spend on vacation either by choice or larger income and she is entitled to spend it on perks that others cannot. Unfortunately life isn't fair. My dh works long days and was lucky enough that he found a job at a successful company. He is making enough money that we can do lots of things others cannot, but my good friend can afford a 4,000 square foot vacation lake home that we cannot afford....is that unfair to me??? Nope, there will always be someone with less than you and always someone with more than you. I don't spend time worrying what others are getting that I cannot. I plan vacations with our priorities in mind(and like OP it is with getting as much, for lack of a better word VIP treatment). Do I think that makes someone who had to save for a year or two and brings all their meals in any less of a vacation or their family less special than mine...NO WAY. I just don't get why having more money and spending it to get a better experience would make it appear someone thinks they are better or more special or that they are bad parents for wanting to make a vacation as amazing as they can.

 

[klitteral2009]

Where did she present that? She mentioned crazy long lines with a 2 year old. Is there anyone out there who actually wants to wait in crazy long lines with a toddler? If she can afford a ticket for her child and is using it to go on rides with her child so they will have a great WDW vacation then good for her I don't know who the poster is who mentioned it, but I definitely agree about sour grapes.

*sigh* sour grapes. Yep. That's it. Man you guys are great at calling out behavior that has no foundation to base it off of. God forbid someone say something negative.

 

[marivigi]

No, don't waste your money and use up other guests' FP+.

I've experienced Disney World during Christmas/NYE week four times in the past five years. As a result, I'd consider myself pretty capable of answering this question.

Christmas, New Years and July 4th are the most crowded times at WDW. During this past year's trip, MK saw a Phase 3 closure three times. I'm not sure how Easter compares to Christmas, but if it's anything close, I can assure you that you will not need 6 FP+ -- just a solid plan!

On Christmas I read everything I could get my hands on about FP+ and MagicBands. I'm in advertising, so aside from it being Disney related, I wanted to read up from a creative and business perspective. As a result, it left me and my family prepared and ready to plan the perfect trip.

At the 60-day mark I booked our FP+. I booked mostly morning/early afternoon FP+ or evening. The parks usually get incredibly crowded by 12pm or 1pm. As a result, we wake up early and get to the parks as close to Rope Drop as possible. On Christmas day, we get to MK for the last half hour of the morning EMH (we can't bring ourselves to wake up earlier than that!)

When we arrive early in the morning, we have our park app handy with the ride wait times called up. Let's say we arrive at 7:45am for EMH, and the park opens to public at 8am. Here's where the planning comes in Knowing the history of the crowds from the crowd forecasts and previous years, we know that most rides will be below a 30-minute wait from EMH (7am) through around 30 minutes after opening to public.

So, we know that we can ride Space Mountain in as little as 20 minutes. Okay, Space Mountain is easy to get to right after entering the park. A 20 minutes for Space Mountain on Xmas Day is unheard of, so no need to book that ride for FP, cross it off! As a result, we book the Buzz Lightyear ride (because that's one of the few rides my mom will go on and we can go on as a family) Thunder Mountain and Peter Pan.

Back to the plan... So we get to MK at 7:45am. We check the app and as expected, Space Mountain is a 30-minute wait. But we know it's in reality much shorter. My sister and I make a b-line to Space Mountain, leaving my parents behind. We're on and off the ride in 20 minutes.

The park is now open to public.

We have not had breakfast yet, so we decide to head to Gaston's for a cinnamon roll. On the way, we stop by It's a Small World. The wait time is 10 minutes (a quick note - always deduct about 5-10 minutes from continuous-load rides - Pirates, IASM, etc.) We're on and off IASM in about 15 minutes. It's now around 9:30am. We head to Gaston's. Fortunately, the park isn't incredibly packed yet. Maybe guests have not yet made their way to the back of the park. We sit down and eat our cinnamon rolls.

Now it's 10am and we have a FP+ for Big Thunder Mountain. My sister, dad and I are on and off the ride in around 10 minutes.

We have an 11am FP+ for Buzz Lightyear, so we have some time to kill. The app says Jungle Cruise is a 30-minute wait. For a crowded day, that's incredible. We head to Jungle Cruise and are done by 10:40am. We see that Pirates is a 25-minute wait. We ride Pirates and are done at 11:15.

Time to redeem our FP+ for Buzz. We head back over to Tomorrowland. Buzz standby is now at 40 minutes. Across the way we see a 100-minute wait for Space Mountain!

After riding Buzz it's now 11:45am. We have a 12pm FP+ for Peter Pan, and it's a good thing we do because standby is 75 minutes. We ride Peter Pan. By 12:30 the park is swamped. Sites report that MK is at a Phase 3 closure. It's evident by the Small World line, which extends to the Haunted Mansion!

We decide to head back to the hotel. We take a break before heading to dinner later that afternoon, then end the day at Magic Kingdom for the last hour of public park hours and the two hours of Evening EMH.

With a two year old, taking a break during a crowded day (or any day for that matter) is going to be inevitable. Get to the park very early each day during your vacation. Once it starts to get crazy crowded, go home for a nap or to relax. You can return to the park later in the day if you'd like to.

I promise - as packed as it may be.. you will be fine. Just plan ahead and use these tips:

- Take advantage of EMH
- Leave the park around 1pm - it will be too crowded
- Get to the park as early as possible. I'm not sure if people were opening gifts Christmas morning or what the reasoning was, but we basically walked on rides until 10am.
- Don't be a "sucker" for the new stuff on Easter Day. Stay out of Starbucks, avoid Fantasyland and "exploring" the new areas. Save that stuff for a less-crowded day (the day after or before) or during EMH. It will waste the time you can be using to go on rides and it's a tourist-crowd trap. Everyone will flock there when entering the park - don't be one of them!

This is excellent advice!

Bravo!!


Now, depending on where you are located, it might be a better plan for you to skip early mornings and stay until the parks close.
In our case, WDW is 2 hours ahead of us, so, making 7:00am park entry is impossible!
What we did Easter 2012 was, wake up late, have a nice character breakfast (which for us was brunch, using the last seating for breakfast or the first seating for lunch) and then head into the park after it.

Crowds would be better during lunch hours, but still pretty crowded, so we would spend lunch/early afternoon in simple rides (IASW, Peoplemover, SE at Epcot, Figment, etc...) and watch the parade, shows, etc... then have fps for the rest of the afternoon, have a nice sitdown dinner inside the parks and the ride everything.
Most people stop riding the rides during the Electrical Parade, and stay at their spots for Wishes. So if you watch those 1 night, you have the rest of your nights free for rides during that time.
Also, after Wishes, many people leave the park, or ride the rides with easier acces from Main Street (mainly Tomorroland and Adventureland) leaving the rides "far back" (Dumbo, Barnstormer, IASW, HM) fairly empty.
Even while in the park, Disney announced they were extending evening hours, so we were able to stay in the park until 1:00am, but by 11:30 the crowds had died down.

So thats another option for you, wake up late, have a nice long characte rmeal as a brunch or spend the morning at the resort pool, and head to the parks in the afternoon planning to stay until park closure

 

[nugov2]

*sigh* sour grapes. Yep. That's it. Man you guys are great at calling out behavior that has no foundation to base it off of. God forbid someone say something negative.

I was the poster who said sour grapes before and it was again in reference to one specific poster. I think most have expressed their view on why they wouldn't do it well and that does not IMO make sour grapes. It just means you don't find value in spending your money on it and that is OK. I personally feel someone having such a strong emotional post with name calling and flaming to come from something that strongly bothers that specific poster...and in this case the only emotion that makes sense is jealousy aka sour grapes. Why else would you care that someone was buying extra tickets for perks.

 

[EMode]

*sigh* sour grapes. Yep. That's it. Man you guys are great at calling out behavior that has no foundation to base it off of. God forbid someone say something negative.

Well your negativity comes off as sour grapes.

You took the time to reply but I noticed you didn't answer my question about where she presented herself as a person who couldn't be bothered waiting in line under any circumstances. Just wondering what foundation you were basing that off of

 

[heartse]

Disney is in the business of selling tickets. If they could figure out a way to start selling two tickets to every patron, someone would get a bonus.

Well, that's not exactly true. We have established that Disney's idea with the whole FP+ is to get people to stay in their parks, and spend money either on food or souvenirs. If everyone bought two tickets, but they still only spent the equivalent of one guest then they are significantly losing money. Sure, they will get the money for the tickets, but even though we try to minimize costs, we sure spend a lot more than a tickets worth on some days, especially when it's over the course of a 7-day ticket. You only have to spend what, $50 to be over what the cost of a day is. So, no, I don't think Disney would like that outcome.

Of course, people are entitled to do whatever they want. However, this kind of attitude displayed by the OP and many others here is EXACTLY why we are now where we are with Disney and all of the restrictions/enforcement. Everyone is looking for a way to scam/beat the system. I am quite sure that Disney did not intend for folks to buy additional park tickets in order to get around the FP restriction. Next thing, they will raise park tickets even more to help discourage this practice.

Everyone wants their trip to be perfect. I am not happy with the new system and waiting in line more, but like most, I am making the best of it, trying to utilize a touring strategy that is going to minimize the effects as much as possible on me, and like many others, have had to revise my expectations.

Why can't people just play by the rules. If Disney went back to no FP, just stand-by, folks would have no choice but to work within the system, plan as effectively as they could to see as much possible, and be happy.

The first time I went to WDW was 1973 and there was no FP, no multiple parks. I remember waiting an hour for Country Bears! And guess what, I also remember having wonderful trips and loving Disney so much, that we then continued to go every year. Back then, you also didn't have everyone trying to work the disability system and getting a wheel chair or using ADD as an excuse that 'Johnny can't stand in line'

Bingo!!

*snip*
A 5 day ticket costs about $300 and gets you 15 FPs. That means each additional FP costs you $20 (unless you're using Common Core, in which case the answer is "Cat").

Love the "Cat" answer! HAHAHA!