Disneyland Paris instead of running

Calcio

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Good Evening Everyone

A few of you have asked if I’d visit Disneyland Paris while I was here, and my honest answer was I didn’t know. I’m headed home Friday, and since I may never have this opportunity again, I went out to DLP today. This may rival Debra in word count when I’m done, but here is the report.

Getting there is easy, it isn’t quick, but it’s easy. The RER A4 line goes to Marne la Vallee-Chessy, and this station, the last station is 100 meters from the entrance to DLP. Their ads say “35 minutes” and that sure isn’t accurate, but I got there with minimal effort. I spent the first half of the day in the Disney Studios, and the second half in the Magic Kingdom.

Entering the studios you go thought a plaza for the Lumiere Brothers, walk through a sound stage with a restaurant and some shops, and when you walk out you’re in Hollywood. They use illusions to show Hollywood Boulevard and the Hollywood Hills right in front of you. When you walk toward them, in about 25 meters you can see how they did it.

I rode Rock N Roller Coaster 2X, and Tower of Terror 2X to start. They are basically the same (Tour de Force Records v. G Force Records) as in Orlando. The Tower is more different, as you can see things they did to cut costs since the Studios park was built under financial duress.

After this I went to the cinemagique movie/show, which was wicked cool. It is a film which starts with silent cuts, and a patron is pulled into the movie by a wizard. The patron in the film is Martin Short, and his female foil is Julie Delpy. They go from silents into all film genres, and I thought it was really clever and cute. Particularly the Star Wars scene, when Julie in storm trooper gear saves Martin Short.

I had lunch, and man is that park seriously under-served for meals. 2 quick restaurants, 1 very pricy sit down restaurant, and carts/stands. I next went to Crush’s Coaster, which is also terribly clever. It’s a dark ride coaster, which rides the EAC. It’s kind of like the wild mouse style coasters, but it’s up and down, and spinning, as you literally flow along with the EAC. Very smart and fun. I wandered around and saw the whole place, very small, but didn’t get in any attraction lines. I exited the park and walked about 200 meters to the Magic Kingdom.

As you can imagine this is much like Anaheim or Orlando. Main Street and various lands around the center square. From right to left; Discoveryland, Fantasyland, Adventureland, and Frontierland. Not surprisingly, no Liberty Square.

Obnoxious question, which I simply cannot resist, sorry about that, but if I did you all would think this was being written by an imposter :rolleyes1 . Would France’s version of Liberty Square have a central plaza with a guillotine, along with cast members dressed as members of the aristocracy and bourgeoisie, walking up the steps to the razor? They could even sell little headless Louis’ and Marie’s in the gift shops.

I rode Buzz Lightyear, just like in Orlando except the pistols come out free into your hand. Sadly that didn’t help my score. I was alone so I tried to shoot with both hands, and quickly learned that (1) my aim with the left hand is worse than poor, and (2) my brain cannot function at a high enough level to fire 2 pistols at the same time. After 1 hit worth 100 points out of maybe 25 shots with the left I put it back in the holster. I next got on Space Mountain, which is different, as you queue inside, then go out to load, are shot up the outside of the mountain in a tube with magnetic propulsion, then dive in. It was great fun, but it was EASILY the roughest steel roller coaster I’ve ever been on. I love RNR so much because it is so fast and smooth. This was fast and shook the crap out of me. My neck was bounced and twisted all around, to the point I tried to wedge myself into the seat and hold my head tight in the back of the headrest and harness. I didn’t work. On the train ride back I tried to adjust my head and neck, and felt the ride.

I wandered over to the Discoveryland Railroad station, figuring a ride around the park would give me a great view. I suppose it would have, but there as a 1 hour wait to get on the train! So . . . I walked over to Fantasyland and although it was laid out differently by far than Florida/California, it was the same stuff.

Well sort of. This is where “The Lord of the Flies” comes into the report. Continental Europeans do not line up like the Brits and we Americans. In addition I’ve noticed that Continental Europeans also invest significant emotional and financial resources in their children. Translated that mean that although many European children are a delight to be around, more by % than in the USA (by my observation) are totally spoiled little merdes. Anything you try to do in DLP’s Fantasyland involves lots of blocking, squeezing, holding your ground and keeping from being played for a fool by parents, children, and best of all, grandparents. You are in line for something, you are next, the person being served steps away, and they pour into the gap, harangue the server, who immediately serves them, likely out of fear for his or her own life. Yes, this has happened to me about once a day here in Paris, so by the law of large numbers it was sure to happen a lot in Fantasyland. It did. By the time I wandered out of the place I came close to voiding all the Anglo-Franco good feelings I’ve tried, along with Martha’s help, to create during my stay. Yes, I know, parts of WDW can get tough with parents and kids, but today I saw a large amount of totally inappropriate behavior.

Getting that off my conscious, I hit Adventureland next, starting with the pirates. Same thing, but sort of in reverse. You go up right away, then float down, through the city, the battle, the city again, then the grottos. And . . . like in Anaheim they have a nice and expensive (TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE) restaurant looking over the first few meters of the ride. The restaurant was about 1/3 full when I floated by, and when I saw the prices I knew why. They also have an “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Peril” roller coaster, and I rode the thing. It’s very tight in space and turns, and has one inversion loop, also very, very tight. Also very rough and bumpy, but with excellent views of the park.

I than walked over to Frontierland, and sadly, Phantom Manor was closed for work. The outside looks identical to the house that Anthony Perkins and his mother “lived in” about the Bates Motel in Psycho. A really cool, old broken down clapboard house, locked up tight, pity.

I wandered around some more, took pictures, and then headed home.

The Good
I’m really glad I went. I have no idea when I’ll be here again and have the opportunity. In the morning when the crowds were small and the temperature was cooler, it was great. The studios at opening were empty and very slick. I adore the 1930’s Hollywood architecture and feel, and there it was in northern France. I also enjoyed the many small changes from the attractions in the US. I’m geeky enough that I like to walk around and observe changes and speculate whey they were done. At DLP it was mostly money, I suppose, since the thing is still a financial albatross on Disney stockholders. Although I wonder why given the next point.

The Bad
Let me put it this way. I considered staying out there and having dinner, when a little voice inside me said, “no go back to Paris, since dinner there will be much cheaper than here.” My admission ticket, 1 day, 2 parks was euro 59, which is just short of $100. I suspect this day cost me, a single male (notice I didn’t say gentleman, that way Judy couldn’t make a Judy-like comment) well over $150. And I bought nothing to bring back (well actually I did, but it’s a surprise for Martha and Lesley, which pushes the day’s cost way over $150). For a family of 4, WOW! And not surprisingly, my lunch meal at the Studios’ quick service restaurant was the worst meal I’ve eaten in France.

The Ugly
This may preclude me from ever becoming the US Ambassador to any EU country, but come on, would taking a shower now and again be too much to ask? Hot day today, a bit humid too. Riding in a closed train, standing in line next to thousands of my closest friends. Do everyone a favor and use soap and water before you come, we’d all appreciate it.

There are no designated smoking zones in the parks, because every square meter of the parks has a haze of grey smoke above it. Actually that is unfair, because there is no smoking in lines, which must be enforced as I saw none of it. Of course, as soon as they get out of an attraction, the smokes come out. The same thing happens when they leave the subway, so it’s not a surprise. All over the parks it is the same. You see more smoking in 1 day than in 1 month in Orlando or Anaheim.

The previous comment of line behavior. Every second in every line I felt that I had to dig in and hold my slot. The corrals are wider here than in the states, so it’s even harder. I particularly enjoyed by 45 minute wait for Crush’s Coaster, as the woman in front of me was on her cell phone the entire time, and her 2 little darlings were hanging on the railings, jumping off and on, bouncing into people all around them, etc, etc. When I got to the loading area the cars were for 4, and the cast member tried to load me in with them. “No thank you, I’ve just spent 45 minutes in close contact with them,” was my comment. I did some reading about DLP before I came to France, and this was a common comment. I realize it’s totally cultural, and I’m the visitor here, so I never said a word about it.

Conclusion
A very nice day, which would have been nicer if Martha or Lesley had shared it with me. My buddy Jimmy Buffet said it best, something along the tone of “going cool places is great fun, but sharing the experience with someone you love is way better than doing it alone.”

I’ll be home in a few days, and begin to drop back into my normal life. I’ll catch up with everyone become a positive contributor soon.

Craig
 
Thanks for the report.

I agree the food at DLP is horrid! How can they take a country with SO much good food and create "that" is beyond me! LOL!

I love Paris, but DLP is just a nice to do so it's been done twice (once on Christmas day which was fun) and I am probably done!
 
Thanks for the report Craig. I'm looking forward to going next year. We will be in Germany visiting my Son and plan on taking the train to Paris for a few days.

Duane
 
Craig, thanks for the review. It is the closest we'll ever get so I showed it to Ted too.
 

We did DLP in 2000. They were really rude in lines and pushed and shoved the whole time. This was before the Studios. I semi enjoyed the experience.
 
Craig - When I traveled on business to Denmark last year I so wanted to take a couple vacation days and travel on to DLP but it just didn't work out. Now I don't know if I escaped a nightmare or missed an opportunity after reading your report :rolleyes1
 
Craig:

Thank you for the informative report on your visit to DLP. I am sure we will tempt fate and visit if and when we ever make it to Europe.

Have a safe and uneventful trip home.

Enjoy your last few days abroad.

Howard
 
Craig - Now, Craig, what makes you think I'd make a Judy-like comment??? :lmao: Thank you for the trip report! I don't know that I'll ever get to DLP and quite honestly, now I'm not sure sure I'd want to!

Please have a safe trip home. We miss you very much here. :hug:
 
Craig - Glad you were able to make a quick trip. I guess you finally get to use all those soccer skills in keeping other people away from you.

Have a safe trip back.

Bill
 
That was it? :confused3 I was sure your review would be so much longer. Say, Debra-length? :rotfl2:

I loved, loved, loved the details. I plan on making the trek to DLP sometime, hopefully not in the so-far-away-it's-depressing future, and this helped me figure out some things that I'm really interested.

I'm really fascinated by cultural difference and crowd behavior, and this gave me a real sense of what to look for. Although it's not quite the same thing, I remember the first time I went to DL and struggled to articulate the differences in the behavior of DL guests and WDW guests. Being able to watch/interact with DLP guests would be great for me. It sounds like DLP has some really great attractions in terms of film, or at least references to them. Lumiere Brothers plaza is a nice touch, and your description of the cinemagique movie/show makes it a must-see--especially with its inclusion of the silent-film genre.

Also, I have to say the best line of your entire review included this phrase: spoiled little merdes. :rotfl: Made my night!

Thank you, thank you. :worship:

Now get back here so that you can get back HERE more often. We miss you!
 
Let me point out that the line issue never really bothered me on either of my two visits!

And the one thing I don't really see in Craig's report... The MK at DLP is BEAUTIFUL! The attention to detail on Main Street and in the Castle is amazing!!

And if you plan your trip right... I was there one day when I was the ONLY person in Frontierland LOL! DLP has a cold winter which drives off crowds!
 
Great report, Craig!

I do hope to visit all the Disney parks one day. Since my Dad now travels to China, I am hoping to tag along sometime and trek to Hong Kong. He used to travel to Japan alot when I was in high school & college. He visited Tokyo Disneyland twice and I am still very jealous!
 
Carol, you are absolutely right. Both parks were very pretty. Nicely laid out with wider walkways, beautiful buildings and landscaping. Here are some samples:

The view when you walk through the soundstage into the studios park:

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The soundstage exterior of Crush's Coaster:

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A very pretty picture I thought:

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Phantom Manor in the Magic Kingdom:

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Also, our trips tend to be adventure holidays as we don't stay on script. Driving in Normandy from the Omaha Beach area to the Utah Beach area, we came across this little town, the ancestral home of Walter Elias Disney (d'Isigny).

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Debra

I agree with you, the cinemagique show was my favorite part of the visit. In scene after scene they included Short & Delpy very smartly, and the transitions were really clever. When you see it do stay for the end credits, as they went on forever, listing all the films used, with the names of the producer, director, and actors shown. A real who's who of the evolution of film in Hollywood.

Martha, my dear :love:

Can you guess the film they used to open the lovers saying goodbye segment? You get only 1 guess. Your clues are it was written by the Epstein Brothers, directed by Michael Curtiz, with the poor civil servant played by the great Claude Rains.

I come home tomorrow and I am ready. I havent seen a weight room for 25 days and my legs feel the neglect.

Best to all
Craig
 
Wow, Craig, you are on your way home already?!? Safe travels.::yes::

Thanks for the report, I don't think I could handle that grey smoke haze.:eek:
 












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