ArwenMarie
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I thought the same in the fall about the CMs...no one was ever rude, but they looked miserable.
I just don't get it. I'm sorry--I feel sorry and bad for the CMs right now. Sounds to me like there are a lot of stupid people who don't educate themselves on going to Disney before they go and that's why they have a bad time.
1. MagicBands this has been all over the place forever on how this is Disney's new ticket, resort and everything ---if the husband mentioned above forgot it then that's his problem. I'm tired of all the negative comments. People posting on how their kids won't wear them. Give me a break...you want to go on vacation? This is the deal;
2. New Tech people. There are going to be some bugs. While this is being handled get a Key to Magic Card to use as back up--yes you can still ask for them.
3. What is up with the Fast Pass Constant Negative comments. The vibe I'm getting is that people are going and expecting to just walk right on whenever they want and ride. This has never been the case even with FP. Furthermore, so what if you only get 3? The old way you could only be issued one at a time and then you had to use it until you could be issued another. By the time that happened, FP were usually so late or gone that you didn't get a chance to utilize it. Oh and let's think about how many other theme parks even give us a chance to get on three popular rides with minimal waiting without charging us a ton of money to do so.
In my opinion people need to practice more patience and do their homework before going. Check all your reservations on everything prior to leaving, printout your fast pass options prior to going in case something isn't working. Ask for the old Key To The World Cards as back up. If you do have a problem or encounter a glitch be kind to the CMs as this is new to them as well.
Sorry for the rant, I'm just fed up with the mentality. People generally don't always work well with change at first. But eventually, things get worked out and we realize the benefits.
For example, how awesome is it that we no longer have to cut out an hour and half of time to get a good spot for a parade? FP that!
I was going to break down your post but then I just concentrated on the bolded part and realized you don't know that much about how things worked at Disney.![]()
MickeyChix said:I just don't get it. I'm sorry--I feel sorry and bad for the CMs right now. Sounds to me like there are a lot of stupid people who don't educate themselves on going to Disney before they go and that's why they have a bad time.
1. MagicBands this has been all over the place forever on how this is Disney's new ticket, resort and everything ---if the husband mentioned above forgot it then that's his problem. I'm tired of all the negative comments. People posting on how their kids won't wear them. Give me a break...you want to go on vacation? This is the deal;
2. New Tech people. There are going to be some bugs. While this is being handled get a Key to Magic Card to use as back up--yes you can still ask for them.
3. What is up with the Fast Pass Constant Negative comments. The vibe I'm getting is that people are going and expecting to just walk right on whenever they want and ride. This has never been the case even with FP. Furthermore, so what if you only get 3? The old way you could only be issued one at a time and then you had to use it until you could be issued another. By the time that happened, FP were usually so late or gone that you didn't get a chance to utilize it. Oh and let's think about how many other theme parks even give us a chance to get on three popular rides with minimal waiting without charging us a ton of money to do so.
In my opinion people need to practice more patience and do their homework before going. Check all your reservations on everything prior to leaving, printout your fast pass options prior to going in case something isn't working. Ask for the old Key To The World Cards as back up. If you do have a problem or encounter a glitch be kind to the CMs as this is new to them as well.
Sorry for the rant, I'm just fed up with the mentality. People generally don't always work well with change at first. But eventually, things get worked out and we realize the benefits.
For example, how awesome is it that we no longer have to cut out an hour and half of time to get a good spot for a parade? FP that!
Yep. For me it went from Wow! To meh.
You do not want to see me rant.
The next person that resorts to name calling I will be showing them what we do with stupid
If this topic bothers you then go to the numerous other threads on the board.
Ok some clarifications. First I did not call anyone stupid on this thread---I did however say there are stupid people out there. Second, I've helped many families plan a vacation to Disney and they've come back happy with their trip, so clearly I must know something about Disney. That and I'm currently working on my own trip for going back which will be trip 15 for me personally.Agreed! Those who talk this way are often ignorant and rant before thinking. Very offensive; very sad.![]()
I think the thing that is a negative vibe regarding fp+ that concerns me the most is the lines for rides that now have fp that formerly did not. Like Pirates. I have been to WDW in all kinds of crowds level. Like the week between Christmas and New Years. And the most I ever waited for that ride was maybe 30 minutes and that was one time (on NYE when the park was closed to capacity). Now I see that the ride has fp and guess what, the lines are supposedly longer. Why is that an improvement that needed a billion dollars to make happen?
I agree change takes time to appreciate but there is also an old saying called "if it ain't broke don't fix it". To me a ride that once had little to no lines that now has gridlock lines falls into that. Under old fp you had a way to get on headliner rides with far less wait. But you had non headliner rides, that did not have fp that you could ride very easily. Now you have long waits for rides that have fp for the first time. That does not sound like change that will take time to get used to, that sounds like stupid change that makes no sense.
And if parks are dirty and cms are grouchy that even takes away my "soaking it all in while I happily people watch" aspect.
I am hoping it all gets worked out but what I am reading lately is magic bands are working very well for most but the fp issues and park management/quality control issues are problems.
I've known disney interns who loved it and others who hated it and begged to get out. I'm sure it's not always a magical place to work and I kno a lot of people have had to settle for a job there after graduation because they couldn't find a job in their field.
Ok some clarifications. First I did not call anyone stupid on this thread---I did however say there are stupid people out there. Second, I've helped many families plan a vacation to Disney and they've come back happy with their trip, so clearly I must know something about Disney. That and I'm currently working on my own trip for going back which will be trip 15 for me personally.
Third, it's true I've never utilized FP that much before because we've never needed to. We go during times when attendance is at it's lowest and always utilize early entry days and basically show up way before gates open so we can optimize those first couple of hours prior to the parks getting busy.
Fourth, going to Disney World really is like going to a foreign country---it's expensive and very overwhelming. Which is why it is so important to gather as much info as needed prior to going to ensure that you have a great time. Especially given the money you will spend!
I think right now while this major transition is happening you have to do a little more leg work is all. And have patience. Ask for a Key to the World Card as back up--you can still get them and then carry it with you at all times. That way if you are caught off guard by a glitch you have it covered. Have your ADRs written down with confirmation nos. just in case. You might even consider printing out your FP+ selections from home and bringing them with you if you don't intend to change them. Make sure you have the latest Disney Apps downloaded to make your trip easier. If you encounter a FP glitch have some patience and know your not the only one. Try and hit the parks first thing in the morning when they open up.
It just saddens me to hear all the negatives about a place I love so much. For me it's not about the number of attractions I get on, wait times, glitches, it's about being with my family and feeling like a kid again! Having fun with the CMs there and thanking them for making my trip enjoyable by doing the jobs they do.
Have faith knowing that eventually these glitches will be fixed and not giving up on the Dream! That's all I guess.
Agreed on all levels!!!I agree with these points you are making and see where you are coming from.
What concerns me is that prices continue to rise to pay for changes that are seemingly either a love hate kind of thing and also don't seem to be going very well. I don't want to stand in lines for ride that used to be a sure thing to get onto quickly. I don't want to hear cm's sounding cynical and unhappy, I don't want to hear about cleanliness issues, Imagineering projects that are now put on indefinite hold. It seems like widespread issues happening that shouldn't be inter related but yet seem to be just that. That to me suggests they did too much at once and its kind of a domino affect.
For sure there are a lot of great things happening. People seem to really like these magic bands and some of those kinks seem to be working out and having a plastic card available as back up sounds good to me. The new Fantasyland is a big addition and the mine train being done in the near future at long last is also a really good thing.
I think its just hard to hear some of the things others are seeing and reporting back on. When you have something you love, that you have always paid the big bucks to enjoy and felt like it was worth it (obviously or we wouldn't keep going back), now cost more for an experience that feels way different, take more work (Disney trips have always been work to plan the way I do them but I knew how to do it and it paid off) and pre planning and cost more for an experience many are saying is diminished by more than a little bit. Makes me sad and yeah a bit worried. Not enough to cancel but kind of enough to have me worrying I might come back for the first time ever not feeling like I got my Happy Place fix and my money's worth.
If people were saying, "it stinks you can't book more than one headliner but the usual rides like POTC and Spaceship Earth are still easy to get on and the parks look great and the cm's are there to settle the issues" I wouldn't worry one bit.
I just feel like I keep seeing these same negative experiences being posted, some from people I have seen posting on here for a decade that used to not have a bad thing to say.
Just got back from 5 days at Disney and I agree...
It was definitely our worse trip... yes I hate hate hate the fast pass + system... why did they take something that worked really really well and replace it with nonsense and confusion?
Now the teens had fun... we allowed them to go to any park they want and they did but also they don't mind waiting in lines and they have phones to text and chat...
Now we did like Ariel new ride, loved the Test Track experience,
The cast members at MK are usually the most friendly but when I question one about a price confusion she was annoyed but ultimately gave me the price...
I loved loved the Pirates League too! That was a lot of fun!!!
But overall the feel was different...
I did like the TURNSTYLE FREE entrance!!!![]()