Disney to require credit card guarantee for all table service restaurants

[WILDERNESS FAN 55]

As long as people can cancel the night before, they will still book away.

Now if they charged a $10 deposit per person at the time of makig the ADR, to be applied towards your meal when you show up, then people would think twice before overbooking.

I believe it will help somewhat. A $10 deposit is too much paperwork for Disney.

 

[Mkrop]

Now you're talking! I suggested that a long time ago - before the original CC guarantee policy was announced.

For those who want "flexibility" & "spontaneity", it's simple...don't book ADRs!!! And if you must have a TS dinner, I'm sure places like Marakkesh, Shutters, Olvia's, Boatwrights's can squeeze you in whenever you're ready.

Why does it have to be such extremes...Dont book ADRs. I mean it has already gotten to the point where we book much fewer as it is, and we were booking the places without CC holds more and more. Why cant we express our dislike of this new policy, let WDW know as well, and maybe if they see a decline in TS revenue maybe they will realize this isnt a good move, or if they have enough complaints bc people want to switch or cancel and cannot, they may change their mind. Or when everybody calls suddenly with a "sick" kid bc they will waive it then. People are going to work the system no matter what rules are in place, if they want to bad enough they will find the loopholes.

And why should those of us who enjoy flexibility be "banished" to out of the way restaurants. We all paid money for this vacation, we should be able to tour in a style that works for our family.

To me WDW could have come up with more guest friendly solutions to the no show dilemma, esp with the new technology in the works. They choose instead to stick it to their guests, MANY who were not abusing the system.

I can easily take my vacation dollars somewhere besides WDW as well. I rather not but if they keep taking away the ease of how a vacation is suppose to be than it may come to that.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I believe it will help somewhat. A $10 deposit is too much paperwork for Disney.

It will help Disney I guess..people will go in and cancel the ones they aren't going to use. It's not going to help everyone else all that much.

 

[leannak]

Why not a 4 or 6 hour cancelation window? That would allow flexibility and still allow people to fill those spots.

 

[CalvaryMike]

How I found out about ADR's was when we went and we couldn't get into ANY TS restaurant. And this was during a 'so-called' slow time of the year. I then found out all these crazy people book at six months out! Believe it or not there are thousands of people that attend DW not knowing about ADR's and just walk up and try to get a table. It's hard for me to believe that Disney has a problem with filling no-shows.

Also, what if someone uses a virtual cc? You could book all your ADR's 180 days out and by the time your reservation date hits, your virtual cc has expired and Disney won't be able to charge your card if you no show.

 

[mcd2745]

Why does it have to be such extremes...Dont book ADRs. I mean it has already gotten to the point where we book much fewer as it is, and we were booking the places without CC holds more and more. Why cant we express our dislike of this new policy, let WDW know as well, and maybe if they see a decline in TS revenue maybe they will realize this isnt a good move, or if they have enough complaints bc people want to switch or cancel and cannot, they may change their mind. Or when everybody calls suddenly with a "sick" kid bc they will waive it then. People are going to work the system no matter what rules are in place, if they want to bad enough they will find the loopholes.

And why should those of us who enjoy flexibility be "banished" to out of the way restaurants. We all paid money for this vacation, we should be able to tour in a style that works for our family.

To me WDW could have come up with more guest friendly solutions to the no show dilemma, esp with the new technology in the works. They choose instead to stick it to their guests, MANY who were not abusing the system.

I can easily take my vacation dollars somewhere besides WDW as well. I rather not but if they keep taking away the ease of how a vacation is suppose to be than it may come to that.

The system and policies surrounding the whole dining/ADR process is far from perfect. Everyone can probably agree on that. However, I think it is much better today because of the CC guarantees than it was 3 years ago when it was next to impossible to snag a table at certain restaurants.

Does everyone forfeit flexibility when you make an ADR? Of course...but you know that going in. It's a choice we all have to make. Just about everything in life is a trade-off and this is no different. We all have to decide...what's more important to us - flexibility or making sure you can eat where you like? In a perfect world, would I prefer not to pretty much lock myself into my plans 180 days out? Absolutely not, but it's the trade I have to make if I want to ensure that we get to eat at our favorite places. If flexibility were of the utmost importance to me, I would not be making ADRs.

 

[DVC92]

I do have a problem with the new policy. I can understand signature restaurants, particularly the ones in the hotels, requiring a CC but not the regular restaurants in the parks. In the hotels, there aren't tons of people hanging around to jump in in the event of a no-show. That isn't the case in the parks, there are always plenty of park visitors asking to be seated who don't have a reservation. I have never missed a reservation, but I don't think I need to be billed if my family doesn't show up at The Plaza, for example. Speaking of The Plaza, I had a ressie there last summer and the computer system went down which totally fouled up the seating resulting in a hour delay for my reservation. I should have billed them $10 per person for the inconvenience and waste of my time. They're lucky the hot fudge was really good.
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[WILDERNESS FAN 55]

The system and policies surrounding the whole dining/ADR process is far from perfect. Everyone can probably agree on that. However, I think it is much better today because of the CC guarantees than it was 3 years ago when it was next to impossible to snag a table at certain restaurants.

Does everyone forfeit flexibility when you make an ADR? Of course...but you know that going in. It's a choice we all have to make. Just about everything in life is a trade-off and this is no different. We all have to decide...what's more important to us - flexibility or making sure you can eat where you like? In a perfect world, would I prefer not to pretty much lock myself into my plans 180 days out? Absolutely not, but it's the trade I have to make if I want to ensure that we get to eat at our favorite places. If flexibility were of the utmost importance to me, I would not be making ADRs.

Well said. Not sure why anyone would object to this policy unless..........

 

[bdklein]

Well said. Not sure why anyone would object to this policy unless..........

Unless what??

 

[LilyWDW]

Unless what??

I really hope it is "unless they have reasons they don't like it" and not one of those "because only people who abuse the system wouldn't like it".

I mean, I am in favor of the new policy personally. However, I think assuming that people who do not like the policy can only be those who abuse the policy is silly. There are perfectly good reasons to not like the policy and people have stated these reasons in the multiple posts on these boards. Do I agree with their reasons? Not really... but I can see where they come from.

Again, I support the change because it won't really change anything for me. I have never missed an ADR because I make sure to plan around them. So I won't be stuck at one park with less then an hour before my ADR because I wouldn't have waited that long to try and GET to my ADR. I am always early for things and ADRs are no different.

But then again, I like making ADRs 180 days in advance and have no problems with that policy. I have noticed a strong connection between those who don't like the credit card policy and those who don't like the 180 day ADR concept.

 

[maxiesmom]

I do have a problem with the new policy. I can understand signature restaurants, particularly the ones in the hotels, requiring a CC but not the regular restaurants in the parks. In the hotels, there aren't tons of people hanging around to jump in in the event of a no-show.

Actually, there is almost always a line to get into Ohanas. And Chef Mickeys.

 

[Mkrop]

I really hope it is "unless they have reasons they don't like it" and not one of those "because only people who abuse the system wouldn't like it".

I mean, I am in favor of the new policy personally. However, I think assuming that people who do not like the policy can only be those who abuse the policy is silly. There are perfectly good reasons to not like the policy and people have stated these reasons in the multiple posts on these boards. Do I agree with their reasons? Not really... but I can see where they come from.

Again, I support the change because it won't really change anything for me. I have never missed an ADR because I make sure to plan around them. So I won't be stuck at one park with less then an hour before my ADR because I wouldn't have waited that long to try and GET to my ADR. I am always early for things and ADRs are no different.

But then again, I like making ADRs 180 days in advance and have no problems with that policy. I have noticed a strong connection between those who don't like the credit card policy and those who don't like the 180 day ADR concept.

I dont have any problem making ADRs at a 180 days. I can commit to a cuisine that far out.

What I dont like is being locked in, we RARELY miss an ADR but we have had trips with sickness, and I would be furious if they charged me for that. I also think that freezing cold week in Dec where we rearranged EVERYTHING, and I mean everything we had planned except the CP, has me not wanting to give up that ability to be flexible if need be. I dont want to be charged bc it is too cold or rainy etc to venture to a particular place, it is my vacation and yes there are times when we throw on the ponchos and go and there are other times we decide this is a great day to hang at the resort. We are going to eat, WDW will get my money while penalize me for wanting to eat elsewhere while on VACATION!

 

[Mkrop]

Actually, there is almost always a line to get into Ohanas. And Chef Mickeys.

And this is why I see WDW being selfish, charge me if I truly dont show and call to cancel bc yes that table could wind up empty, DONT charge me at 8am when my kid is sick and I call you and you know darn well you can fill that table at Ohana or Chef Mickey in a heartbeat...that is just wrong.

And you means WDW in the above

 

[ArwenMarie]

Eat QS. That's what I am going to do!