Disney to cancel FPs if room is cancelled

[Marionnette]

What is a "rolling 60"?

Rolling 60 = booking a single-night stay and getting FP for Days 60 and 60+1, and then being able to secure additional FP reservations when the 60-day window opens for each subsequent day.

Throwaway Room - a reservation that never gets cancelled. Hence the term “throwaway” as in throwing away the room. Throwaways are done for more than FP reservations at 60-days. They allow for free theme park parking from check n day thru check out. They provide free MBs for everyone on the reservation. And they allow everyone on the reservation to have access to EMH for the days/nights that the reservation covers.

Rolling 60 has been eliminated. The reasons for doing a throwaway room still exist, although they are less “valuable” now that the rolling 60 has been eliminated.

 

[jhoannam]

Yes. Someone booked a one week stay at one resort. Then they booked a split stay at 2 resorts covering the same days. All resort reservations have been canceled. I don’t believe there has been an update yet, however.

They updated yesterday, the FPs were still there, even after cancelling all the reservations.

 

[Spaceguy55]

The separate booking windows appears to be confirmed.
I'm talking about someone who has a upcoming stay that used the leading room/rolling 60+ loophole..when that is canceled then the following room stay should have the FP's go away...that's the scenario that will really confirm this....this is what most want to know for sure.

 

[anomamatt]

Has anyone tested the straight up book & cancel yet (book onsite, make FP, cancel entire onsite stay without rebooking.)

Yes, I did a bunch of iterations of creating a reservation, booking FP and then cancel the entire reservation (no split stay, etc). I did these on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday... some FP were booked >30 days, some >60 days, some at 74 days out. All the FP are there and no warnings.

 

[Cinderumbrella]

They updated yesterday, the FPs were still there, even after cancelling all the reservations.

Thank you! I’m messed up on what days this stuff was all done. I will be curious for her update tomorrow when she hits 48 hours for ALL the resort reservations to have disappeared (I believe it was just the single stay that was canceled first, not the split stay).

 

[Runnsally]

My question for all this is, will anybody here admit to using these loopholes when and if they take effect and cause a loss of FP's.
Other than those doing so as a test.

Let’s all agree not to derail this thread with an ethical argument. That being said..I would, but our next trip isn’t until August. I would also be very happy if all the leading/overlapping loopholes are closed.

 

[rteetz]

My question for all this is, will anybody here admit to using these loopholes when and if they take effect and cause a loss of FP's.
Other than those doing so as a test.

I suggest we avoid that discussion.

 

[Gentry2004]

Let’s all agree not to derail this thread with an ethical argument. That being said..I would, but our next trip isn’t until August. I would also be very happy if all the leading/overlapping loopholes are closed.

Agree. It’s a circular argument, but if no one is able to use leading reservations, there is much less need to use leading reservations.

 

[Boski]

So a discussion about breaking the rules is not allowed?

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

So a discussion about breaking the rules is not allowed?

Correct, per DIS board policy

 

[rteetz]

So a discussion about breaking the rules is not allowed?

Anything that Disney allows at this point is not breaking discussion rules. I suggest we don't get into a discussion on who does what and why and stuff like that.

 

[Gentry2004]

Yes, I did a bunch of iterations of creating a reservation, booking FP and then cancel the entire reservation (no split stay, etc). I did these on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday... some FP were booked >30 days, some >60 days, some at 74 days out. All the FP are there and no warnings.

Not even the same red text warnings that the split stay/overlapping tester got? (Sorry I forgot who that was!) Or you just mean no separate email warnings?

 

[Boski]

Anything that Disney allows at this point is not breaking discussion rules. I suggest we don't get into a discussion on who does what and why and stuff like that.

Understood, but if we believe something violates Disney's TOS we are not allowed to bring that up? I'm not talking about the ethical discussion, I get we want to try and avoid that.

 

[msb578]

Any update on the FP’s?

I just checked. Nothing has changed in MDE. It still says I’m staying at a DS hotel (even though I cancelled with the hotel on Friday). All of the fastpasses are still intact.

 

[Cinderumbrella]

Back to our testers:

Has anyone booked a split stay, booked FP then canceled just a portion of the split? (For cash, no DVC stays)

 

[rteetz]

Understood, but if we believe something violates Disney's TOS we are not allowed to bring that up? I'm not talking about the ethical discussion, I get we want to try and avoid that.

I think as long as its not an ethical discussion it should be fine. If there is a question on something use the report feature and it will be looked at it.

 

[PrincessArlena'sDad]

I wonder whether this testing now will be indicative of how things will be working a few weeks from now.

As people’s booking windows are opening early (and it seems random whose are opening early, how much early, and inconsistently for each person, for that matter), the system is not working properly.

So, just because someone gets a result now, while the system is significantly more wonky that it usually is, that doesn’t mean we’ll get the same result once the system is fixed. Or, at least mostly works correctly.

 

[TISHLOVESDISNEY]

I wonder whether this testing now will be indicative of how things will be working a few weeks from now.

As people’s booking windows are opening early (and it seems random whose are opening early, how much early, and inconsistently for each person, for that matter), the system is not working properly.

So, just because someone gets a result now, while the system is significantly more wonky that it usually is, that doesn’t mean we’ll get the same result once the system is fixed. Or, at least mostly works correctly.

I was just typing the same, lol.
As wonky as the FP system has been these past few days, I am guessing it's not finalized.

 

[Gentry2004]

I was just typing the same, lol.
As wonky as the FP system has been these past few days, I am guessing it's not finalized.

I agree. It also seems weird that Disney is not giving everyone the same warnings (some are being told their FP’s are being cancelled, others are not being given a warning.)

It also seems they would want to add new language to the booking page so people are aware before booking what the terms are. Why is Disney so bad at this?

 

[Spaceguy55]

Anybody think this will be discussed on today's DIS show?