Disney - The Worst Cruise Line in the World?

[sippican]

Isn't that the same thing as "just doing his job"....or even, helping people?

You just asked what makes him an ambulance chaser. The definition I provided is from a dictionary. According to that - he fits the bill.
I am also speaking from personal knowledge of a case that is not yet settled. Nuf said.

 

[jjje]

Does anyone else think of Cherith Cutestory when they hear the phrase "maritime lawyer"? Just me?

 

[justmestace]

7. There is new technology. here is already cameras and technology on the ships. Now legally whether the law requires the new technology or not and if the present technology is ok, Mr. Walker choose not to mention. Congress talking about something is not law.


AKK

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/28/business/la-fi-cruise-ships-20100728

 

[JohnDS]

That's my point. No one here knows if that's what he does. He's not representing the Corium family, or the family of the little girl who was molested.....nor have I heard his name mentioned in connection with any other cruise crime in the news. The ONLY time I've heard of him, is on here.....when it was used to point out the insufficiencies of other cruise lines. People can't have it both ways.

I was just being nice and giving him the benefit of the doubt. I personally hadn't heard of him before but after viewing his website have no personal doubt as to his agenda. Did you look at his "about me" page? He has more media credits than most a-list actors. Defend him if wish, but I've seen enough.

 

[justmestace]

You just asked what makes him an ambulance chaser. The definition I provided is from a dictionary. According to that - he fits the bill.
I am also speaking from personal knowledge of a case that is not yet settled. Nuf said.

I guess....but I don't see that as derogatory, which is how it's being used here.

Say, for example, that I was injured in a grocery store, and it was clearly because the store failed in their job to keep its customers safe. So I hire a lawyer to handle my case. Could be a really nice lawyer, but since I don't know any lawyers, I get the name out of the phone book. I suppose, by definition, that person could be called an ambulance chaser.....but that still doesn't make it a bad thing.

 

[justmestace]

I was just being nice and giving him the benefit of the doubt. I personally hadn't heard of him before but after viewing his website have no personal doubt as to his agenda. Did you look at his "about me" page? He has more media credits than most a-list actors. Defend him if wish, but I've seen enough.

I'm not defending HIM, per se, I'm just saying that if it's to the benefit of the thinking of DIS Board members, it's okay to quote him, and his website.
But if he says something bad about Disney, all of a sudden he becomes a big fat loser.

 

[JohnDS]

I'm not defending HIM, per se, I'm just saying that if it's to the benefit of the thinking of DIS Board members, it's okay to quote him, and his website. But if he says something bad about Disney, all of a sudden he becomes a big fat loser.

No, including Geraldo Rivera in his list of credits makes him a big fat loser, unless it's glandular in which case that's uncalled for and he's simply a loser.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Actually, I'm not sure what the rule is about wearing/posting a photo in uniform, but the military, including the USCG, is very specific about when and where a retiree can wear their uniform. But the way I interpret the rules listed below, using a photo in uniform for advertising or anything other than a specific military function IS wrong.




The Coast Guard Uniform Regulation describes the wear of Coast Guard uniforms by Retired Coast Guard members and veterans.

Retired. Coast Guard retirees may wear the uniform during (and traveling to/from) the following events:

(1) On occasions of a military ceremony (including retirements, changes of command, or funerals).

(2) At patriotic parades on national holidays, or occasions in which active or reserve units are taking part.

(3) At social or other functions when the invitation has been influenced by the member’s active military service.

Veterans. Former members of the Coast Guard who served honorably during a declared or undeclared war and whose most recent service was terminated under honorable conditions (this means an honorable or general discharge) may wear the uniform in the highest grade held during such war service only upon the following occasions and in the course of travel incident thereto:

(1) On occasions of a military ceremony (including retirements, changes of command, or funerals).

(2) At patriotic parades on national holidays, or occasions in which active or reserve units are taking part.

Former Coast Guard Members who are discharged honorably or under honorable conditions from the Coast Guard (even if it's not during wartime service) may wear their uniform while going from the place of discharge to their home of record, within three months after discharge.

Many companies hire retired Military and use them in executive positions, and they are permitted to use their pictures in there paperwork and online sites.

My point with Mr. Walkers comments were it seems its ONLY USCG officers hired by the cruise industry which are doing so wrongly.

AKK

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I'm not defending HIM, per se, I'm just saying that if it's to the benefit of the thinking of DIS Board members, it's okay to quote him, and his website.
But if he says something bad about Disney, all of a sudden he becomes a big fat loser.

Frankly, he gets the same treatment on other sites and other lines...........most ambulance chasers do!

I even pointed out his errors when he jumped on Carnival, when they were towing the Triumph in.

He gets knocked here because he is anti cruise industry and anti the lines, one of which is DCL.

This is not a DCL issue, as this article covers a number of lines, its a matter of distorted and limited facts presented as truth. For no other purpose but to help him get work.

AKK

 

[gunka]

I'm not defending HIM, per se, I'm just saying that if it's to the benefit of the thinking of DIS Board members, it's okay to quote him, and his website.
But if he says something bad about Disney, all of a sudden he becomes a big fat loser.

Why all the passion? What did DCL/Disboards do to you? It appears that you have an ax to grind....do you really think folks on this forum will be anything but pro DCL/Disney?

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/28/business/la-fi-cruise-ships-20100728

Ok...................so??.........His article was talking about persons overboard...not handrail height and peep holes.

Nor did he say they were not obeying the law or not, He only implied it.
It is very possible the present cameras and security in place complies with the law.

As I said in my post, their is new technology that is likely better. It has worked well in lab tests, but to my knowledge has not as yet been tested shipboard. Is that what the law requires? If so why did he not come out and clearly say so?????

Now to be totally fair, all the major line are following IMO and Solas requirement as their countries of convinces flags require.

Do I like them (all lines) hiding behind foreign flags, hell no. Do I like a atty twisting and distorting facts....Hell No!


AKK

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I've heard of this lawyer, and I've seen his website and articles a few times....HERE....on the DIS....when needed to back up negative claims about OTHER cruise lines.
I guess he's an O.K. guy when he's after the other lines.

Just do a search on here: cruiselawnews.com and see how many threads come up where his word is gospel, when it's about another line.

I don't see anything that says he's trying to get anyone to sue DCL, or any other line. Looks like he's just reporting crimes. Although, yes, some of them are old.

But I think his point with Disney is that THESE particular things that he noted are really, really bad. It isn't just a toilet backing up.
And he stated some things about other lines that are really, really bad....but in MY mind....the absolute WORST was the crime against a child that let the perpetraitor get away. So I'd have to agree with him there.

As terrible as that was and many here , myself included, have condemned DCL for the way their handled it, I would also point out that wasn't the assaults on other lines bad?..............32 DEAD passengers and crew members on the Concordia, is not bad?

We all know that anyone wanting to get negative attention the name to use is Disney, and that is all he did here.

With respect to the OP, even he used the DCL name to get peoples attention for the thread.

AKK

 

[MaleficentRN]

This "article" was so poorly written I could barely read it.

 

[justmestace]

Ok...................so??.........His article was talking about persons overboard...not handrail height and peep holes.

Nor did he say they were not obeying the law or not, He only implied it.
It is very possible the present cameras and security in place complies with the law.

As I said in my post, their is new technology that is likely better. It has worked well in lab tests, but to my knowledge has not as yet been tested shipboard. Is that what the law requires? If so why did he not come out and clearly say so?????

Now to be totally fair, all the major line are following IMO and Solas requirement as their countries of convinces flags require.

Do I like them (all lines) hiding behind foreign flags, hell no. Do I like a atty twisting and distorting facts....Hell No!


AKK

You said:
" Now legally whether the law requires the new technology or not and if the present technology is ok, Mr. Walker choose not to mention. Congress talking about something is not law."

And I was just pointing out that it IS law. It isn't just something Congress talked about.

 

[justmestace]

Why all the passion? What did DCL/Disboards do to you? It appears that you have an ax to grind....do you really think folks on this forum will be anything but pro DCL/Disney?

Actually, yes, DCL DID do something to me. And I probably could have used an "ambulance chaser" if I could have afforded to even begin to try to fight Disney with all their money and lawyers.

But for the most part, it just makes me wonder what it would take to finally have all the people who think Disney can do no wrong, to say "Oh my! I guess they aren't perfect afterall".


The really sad part is, from the posts I've read, it sounds like a lot of people would have to die, in order for people to remove their rose colored glasses.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

You said:
" Now legally whether the law requires the new technology or not and if the present technology is ok, Mr. Walker choose not to mention. Congress talking about something is not law."

And I was just pointing out that it IS law. It isn't just something Congress talked about.

But Stacie , he was talking about man overboard technology, not a law about handrails and peepholes!

AKK

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Actually, yes, DCL DID do something to me. And I probably could have used an "ambulance chaser" if I could have afforded to even begin to try to fight Disney with all their money and lawyers.

But for the most part, it just makes me wonder what it would take to finally have all the people who think Disney can do no wrong, to say "Oh my! I guess they aren't perfect afterall".


The really sad part is, from the posts I've read, it sounds like a lot of people would have to die, in order for people to remove their rose colored glasses.

Thank God, so far, unlike other lines, this has not happened, at least partly due to the better designed and built and trained crews of the DCL vessels and for that matter some other lines as well.


AKK

 

[justmestace]

But Stacie , he was talking about man overboard technology, not a law about handrails and peepholes!

AKK

"The bill, written by Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) and Democratic Rep. Doris Matsui of Sacramento, requires cruise lines to install peepholes on passenger stateroom doors and crew members' quarters as well as add on-deck surveillance cameras, among other safety improvements."

And it was made MANDATORY to immediately contact local authorities, including the FBI, in the event of a suspected crime, such as the molestation of that little girl.

DCL broke the law and got away with it. Perhaps it's just a matter of time before they begin to take further advantage, or perhaps there IS more, and we just never hear about it.
Oh, silly me....of course that isn't true!

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

"The bill, written by Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) and Democratic Rep. Doris Matsui of Sacramento, requires cruise lines to install peepholes on passenger stateroom doors and crew members' quarters as well as add on-deck surveillance cameras, among other safety improvements."

And it was made MANDATORY to immediately contact local authorities, including the FBI, in the event of a suspected crime, such as the molestation of that little girl.



But Stacie, my good friend, he never said if the new technology, (which just came out last summer, 2013 and the law was written and passed in 2010 facts he left out of his opinion article) was required to be installed or if what is presently used on DCL and other lines full fills the law??? This is my point.

Add that buried in his reference material, is that DCL has a new infra red system, installed or being tested etc, which he left out of his worse cruise line article. .......amazing how this guy talks though both sides of his mouth at the same time.





DCL broke the law and got away with it. Perhaps it's just a matter of time before they begin to take further advantage, or perhaps there IS more, and we just never hear about it.



They notified the FBI and USCG the next day, was that soon enough????...I don't know, but I agree they messed up handling this part really bad and I have said so before.


Oh, silly me....of course that isn't true!

Every cruise line has broken the law as some time. DCL....wait for it..............is NOT perfect either!


AKK

 

[carissa1970]

Did anyone hear about the crew member that jumped overboard last night in Hawaii? I do not recall the cruise line. Saw it in a Facebook link from a Hawaiian News channel.