Disney stopped selling toy guns

Waiting to find all those Disney guns up on eBay for inflated prices and listed as collector items. Everyone better get over to The Character Warehouse at the Premium outlets and stock up on all those toy guns as I see Disney sending them in bulk there in order to try and sell them.
 
With the ability to make working guns on a 3D printer now, it is also possible to make a gun in any gaudy color you want, too. That means that what looks like a toy gun could very possibly be a working real gun. Does anyone really want to take the chance?

Hmmm, yes... I guess with a 3D printer you could make a gun that looks like a radio too, or a camera, phone, charger, umbrella,...
 
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I don't get the outrage from people who are that upset over Disney not selling toy guns any longer. They're just items, the inclusion or lack of availability of them sold in the parks shouldn't make or break someone's vacation. That was the point I was trying to express my confusion over, it was just worded poorly.

I understood that. You had made reference to people in your generation being afraid, Not liking guns cause of stuff they've seen etc. I was just saying that your viewpoint (and a valid one for how you feel) is anecdotal, and not one that should speak for your generation... I've never seen research supporting it anywhere and anecdotally myself, I know numerous gun enthusiasts your age.

I think the reaction comes down to more ideological views on the subject of a larger entity (Corp like Disney, Fed Gov,etc) forcing its views on others without real conversation on the whys simply because they can. Disney banned guns and just says "For safety". Is it really that? Is it more a political point? A real conversation about in the public vs having PRs tepid answers would be preferred. Maybe there is a good reason... i mean I get not allowing toy guns in.... It's an example of taking it to the extreme. I'm guessing costumes got banned cause of being able to conceal weapons, but then you have the metal detectors so why not wand them or send them through? The whole thing leaves a bad taste to me because Disney, once again, fails to communicate the why effectively.
 

Yeah, stupid Americans, clinging to God, family, and country. It's amazing that anyone volunteers to give their life to defend this country anymore, when they hear people every day born and raised under this flag who think it's such a stupid place to live.

Point, but those dying to protect the US are dying to protect the rights of those people to hate things. The point of our constitution is to protect the rights of the minority to be heard and not be punished by the government for expressing those thoughts.

I don't know many Americans who hate the US...rather they hate many of the current policies in place or some cultural shifts. Depending on ideology, it usually shifts depending on which party controls the most power in Washington (the shift being if they are happy Jr. Not happy)
 
Waiting to find all those Disney guns up on eBay for inflated prices and listed as collector items. Everyone better get over to The Character Warehouse at the Premium outlets and stock up on all those toy guns as I see Disney sending them in bulk there in order to try and sell them.

That actually should be the sign if this is temp or long term. Disney's statement never said it was perm, we all just expect it to be.
 
Must be the red tip means nothing. I know someone who put a red tip on a real gun.
 
Point, but those dying to protect the US are dying to protect the rights of those people to hate things. The point of our constitution is to protect the rights of the minority to be heard and not be punished by the government for expressing those thoughts.

I don't know many Americans who hate the US...rather they hate many of the current policies in place or some cultural shifts. Depending on ideology, it usually shifts depending on which party controls the most power in Washington (the shift being if they are happy Jr. Not happy)
And again, that's not my point. You're addressing the people who actually think about policies and ideology. I'm talking about the ones getting their cultural viewpoint from the celebrity du jour. The ones who say how much better Europe does "it," even if they've never been there. The twenty something's (and others) who, because they can use the latest electronics, think that equals wisdom. Those comments are what disgust me.
 
There are a couple of items at play here. First, no toy should be seen as being for strictly boys or girls. That's antiquated thinking and we need to stop it.

Second, I feel very strongly that toy gun ban was to just to make one, simple rule across the board. Dressing up at Disney has really become this huge OTT thing with people striving for authenticity. It's likely easier on security for the rules to be NO guns rather than them having to argue with people about why their very real looking replica cannot go through while little Timmy's orange and purple bubble blaster can. The rule becomes clear and concise. It's no toy guns. Since people will whine about not being able to bring in their real replicas or bubble blaster because "they can just buy one inside" Disney has put the kibosh on that, too. A rule with no exceptions is easy to enforce.
 
...except we're talking Disney here. Their track record on enforcing "rules" is not the strongest.

One might say they're more like guidelines than actual rules, if you get my drift. Arrrrgh!

Well, but it's also their right to enforce or not enforce their own rule as they see it. For example, the no costumes on adults has been a rule on their books for some time. It's their prerogative to enforce it or not. No problems? They decide not to enforce it. Problems? Now it's enforced. The "no guns" rule makes it simple for people to understand (well, some people don't understand the point behind the rule, but that's kind of whatever) and simple to enforce if they want to enforce it.
 
Being at the parks during this change was interesting. One day there were kids playing with bubble guns and tons of toy guns at pirates, to the next day on entering the park with the ban in place and things being confiscated. I get banning the toy guns, especially if they are kind of realistic looking. But bubble guns too? Come on. As someone mentioned before, those fake light sabers are actual weapons, got whacked a couple of times by kids swinging those around.
I still saw someone with a selfie stick on test track behind me though, so not sure how effective security is working out there...
 
Being at the parks during this change was interesting. One day there were kids playing with bubble guns and tons of toy guns at pirates, to the next day on entering the park with the ban in place and things being confiscated. I get banning the toy guns, especially if they are kind of realistic looking. But bubble guns too? Come on. As someone mentioned before, those fake light sabers are actual weapons, got whacked a couple of times by kids swinging those around.
I still saw someone with a selfie stick on test track behind me though, so not sure how effective security is working out there...
But the real question is did you feel safer for the toys being gone?
 
But the real question is did you feel safer for the toys being gone?

It honestly doesn't change how safe I feel. I believe that certain things are outside our control and rules will not change that. But i'm sure there are people who are easily prone to hysteria by certain triggers. Like my mom being paranoid and refusing to ride spaceship earth when there where "suspicious people" on it ahead of her.
 
Yeah, stupid Americans, clinging to God, family, and country. It's amazing that anyone volunteers to give their life to defend this country anymore, when they hear people every day born and raised under this flag who think it's such a stupid place to live.

We're talking about toy guns here. If you conflate that with "God, family, and country," that's on you. And it is weird.

And again, that's not my point. You're addressing the people who actually think about policies and ideology. I'm talking about the ones getting their cultural viewpoint from the celebrity du jour. The ones who say how much better Europe does "it," even if they've never been there. The twenty something's (and others) who, because they can use the latest electronics, think that equals wisdom. Those comments are what disgust me.

Making radical assumptions about someone you've never met also seems to be something Americans cling to.
 
Disney can sell whatever they want - I really don't care. But this changes nothing with regard safety.
 
And again, that's not my point. You're addressing the people who actually think about policies and ideology. I'm talking about the ones getting their cultural viewpoint from the celebrity du jour. The ones who say how much better Europe does "it," even if they've never been there. The twenty something's (and others) who, because they can use the latest electronics, think that equals wisdom. Those comments are what disgust me.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. What irks me is that these celebrities, with no credibility at all, are given undue plat platforms to spew a bunch of political non-since that young people, who in many cases idolize same, lap up like dogs, as being the truth or correct. Most of these celebrities have body guards that carry guns for them.
 
People without a security background always look at things the wrong way. I do have a background in security at a maximum security facility I worked at a few years ago. Here's what a bubble gun looks like to me. It is a reservoir for liquid or other substance. That substance in the reservoir can be the bubble mixture but it also can be anything else, including explosive material. In other words, any substance that can be put into there. It just a reservoir looking like a gun. The substance in there could makes it a bomb actually. Security people care less about the gun function as the reservoir potential.

Other toy guns can also be modified in many ways to make them lethal. We once discovered a gun hidden in a kid's toy gun in an attempt to get it by us. Not the brightest attempt in our setting but potentially a better ruse at Disney.

Now given that all the three parks, not just Disney, rolled these out on the same day suggests that there was/is some threat that we will likely not be privy to. They best way to handle the various possibilities of toy guns being modified is to not allow them in and not sell them at all. You don't want someone to go into the park, buy a toy, take it out, modify it in some way to make it lethal and then bring it back in. Think outside the box folks, that's what security people do.
 
People without a security background always look at things the wrong way. I do have a background in security at a maximum security facility I worked at a few years ago. Here's what a bubble gun looks like to me. It is a reservoir for liquid or other substance. That substance in the reservoir can be the bubble mixture but it also can be anything else, including explosive material. In other words, any substance that can be put into there. It just a reservoir looking like a gun. The substance in there could makes it a bomb actually. Security people care less about the gun function as the reservoir potential.

Other toy guns can also be modified in many ways to make them lethal. We once discovered a gun hidden in a kid's toy gun in an attempt to get it by us. Not the brightest attempt in our setting but potentially a better ruse at Disney.

Now given that all the three parks, not just Disney, rolled these out on the same day suggests that there was/is some threat that we will likely not be privy to. They best way to handle the various possibilities of toy guns being modified is to not allow them in and not sell them at all. You don't want someone to go into the park, buy a toy, take it out, modify it in some way to make it lethal and then bring it back in. Think outside the box folks, that's what security people do.

All three parks? There are more than 3 parks no??
 





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