Disney LGBT Princess.

[MetalMasterC]

Breaks my heart actually. I've been hyping this movie to my 3 grand kids for 6 months now. Now I'll pass. I don't feel it's my place to have this conversation with them.

What conversation? The existence of people who don't fit into some sort of societal standard? As a guardian and/or parent, it IS your place to have this conversation with them. I know you're a grandparent, and I don't know your living situation, but it still stands. One's children look up to their parents/grandparents for advice, answers, and support. To just simply brush this under a rug, because you feel that children shouldn't know of LGBT persons is not a way to be a responsible guardian. And the level of education should be unbiased and objective. This is how we're supposed to shape out world. I certainly hope that no one here preaches hate and disdain to their children and paints ANYONE LGBT in a bad way. That is irresponsible.

 

[LaidBackDad]

Why do you get to decide what family is? Are you implying that only LGBT people are inappropriate? What do you mean when you say inappropriate?

Biology doesn't make a family. Your comments are offensive to loving and caring families that are led by 2 men or 2 women.

Biology is science, not an opinion or a belief, purely a fact. No loving and caring family has ever been offended by science. Are you offended that the world is round and not flat? Believe it or not; but, water is wet and a child cannot have 2 biological fathers or 2 biological mothers. I never decided what a family is, why do you get to decide what a family is and why do you hate traditional families so much? Are you saying traditional parents don't love their children and only LGBT parents love their children? Nothing says a biological parent loves a child more and in the real world there are many biological parents who have no business being parent. At least adoptive parents chose to be a child's parent. In my book that makes the adoptive LGBT parent more loving and more of a "real" parent than some traditional parents; but, that doesn't negate the science.

... and yes, I get to decide what is inappropriate for me and my family. You get to decide what you think is inappropriate. I would hope that we could agree that excessive displays of affection in public or exposing children to graphic sexual behaviors in an animated fairy tails just to promote the agenda of an extremely small but vocal minority is inappropriate; but, somehow I think that may be asking too much from some people.

 

[MetalMasterC]

Biology is science, not an opinion or a belief, purely a fact. No loving and caring family has ever been offended by science. Are you offended that the world is round and not flat? Believe it or not; but, water is wet and a child cannot have 2 biological fathers or 2 biological mothers. I never decided what a family is, why do you get to decide what a family is and why do you hate traditional families so much? Are you saying traditional parents don't love their children and only LGBT parents love their children? Nothing says a biological parent loves a child more and in the real world there are many biological parents who have no business being parent. At least adoptive parents chose to be a child's parent. In my book that makes the adoptive LGBT parent more loving and more of a "real" parent than some traditional parents; but, that doesn't negate the science.

... and yes, I get to decide what is inappropriate for me and my family. You get to decide what you think is inappropriate. I would hope that we could agree that excessive displays of affection in public or exposing children to graphic sexual behaviors in an animated fairy tails just to promote the agenda of an extremely small but vocal minority is inappropriate; but, somehow I think that may be asking too much from some people.

While biology is science, it is certainly not finite. We're discovering more and more about the human mind and body every single day. Even scientists' findings that would span decades old have changed. Anything can, and will change. Family is not biology. Never was, never will be.

There is no so-called agenda. There is no conspiracy. You seem to be the one who is sexualizing LGBT and painting it as bad, when heteros have been doing the same type of things for centuries. People turn a blind eye to it, because it's become the societal standard. Once that standard is challenged, those who don't question the standard are up in arms and think they are being attacked. Many worry about something that is being taken away from them (family, marriage, etc.) that doesn't affect anyone or anything in the long run.

This goes to everyone: You (or no one else) gets to decide what "family" means to anyone not even your actual family. If you feel family is a man, woman, 2 kids, cat, dog, white picket fence, and so on, then so be it. Just don't expect anyone outside of you, or even in your family themselves to follow the same thoughts as you personally. We are all individuals. We make decisions that help enrich our lives. Happiness is the key here.

 

[Stephiehun]

Biology is science, not an opinion or a belief, purely a fact. No loving and caring family has ever been offended by science. Are you offended that the world is round and not flat? Believe it or not; but, water is wet and a child cannot have 2 biological fathers or 2 biological mothers. I never decided what a family is, why do you get to decide what a family is and why do you hate traditional families so much? Are you saying traditional parents don't love their children and only LGBT parents love their children? Nothing says a biological parent loves a child more and in the real world there are many biological parents who have no business being parent. At least adoptive parents chose to be a child's parent. In my book that makes the adoptive LGBT parent more loving and more of a "real" parent than some traditional parents; but, that doesn't negate the science.

... and yes, I get to decide what is inappropriate for me and my family. You get to decide what you think is inappropriate. I would hope that we could agree that excessive displays of affection in public or exposing children to graphic sexual behaviors in an animated fairy tails just to promote the agenda of an extremely small but vocal minority is inappropriate; but, somehow I think that may be asking too much from some people.

Who wants graphic sexual behaviors in a children's cartoon? Two men or women showing affection isn't automatically excessive or graphic. Gay people exist. Their relationships are real and just as valid as yours and mine. Their humanity isn't an agenda. People who hate them are a smaller minority, and growing smaller every day, thank goodness.

Your nonsense about traditional families is a weird red herring. Why would you think I hate traditional families? I grew up in one; I have one of my own. (Also, since my parents didn't have to give my inlaws a bunch of goats and stuff when I got married, I'd say the definition of traditional marriage has evolved over the centuries.) I can just recognize that people in different families also deserve respect and love and representation.

I love when bigots don't mind consuming media produced by gay people, but want them to stay in the closet after they write "Kiss the Girl."

 

[MarieLightning]

@Stephiehun if I could like your post more than once, I would

 

[LaidBackDad]

While biology is science, it is certainly not finite. We're discovering more and more about the human mind and body every single day. Even scientists' findings that would span decades old have changed. Anything can, and will change. Family is not biology. Never was, never will be.

There is no so-called agenda. There is no conspiracy. You seem to be the one who is sexualizing LGBT and painting it as bad, when heteros have been doing the same type of things for centuries. People turn a blind eye to it, because it's become the societal standard. Once that standard is challenged, those who don't question the standard are up in arms and think they are being attacked. Many worry about something that is being taken away from them (family, marriage, etc.) that doesn't affect anyone or anything in the long run.

This goes to everyone: You (or no one else) gets to decide what "family" means to anyone not even your actual family. If you feel family is a man, woman, 2 kids, cat, dog, white picket fence, and so on, then so be it. Just don't expect anyone outside of you, or even in your family themselves to follow the same thoughts as you personally. We are all individuals. We make decisions that help enrich our lives. Happiness is the key here.

Congratulations on creating one of the most ridiculous post in the history of the internet. You realize homosexuality isn't a disease and can't be cured by scientist. Why do you want them to even try? You simply can't deny family is biology, more specifically genetics. If you would stop spewing hatred and intolerance for a second you would realize the very title of the thread proves you wrong. Princesses are royalty, they are part of a Royal FAMILY. A woman can only be royalty because she has a royal bloodline or marry into a royal family. In either case, it would be impossible for a homosexual princess to reproduce and continue her royal bloodline / family (sorry adoption doesn't count). It's too bad when bigots try to spread their ignorance and pornographic world view to children just to promote an agenda.

I'm done with this thread, too much ignorance and hatred being thrown around by uninformed social media terrorist.

 

[Stephiehun]

Congratulations on creating one of the most ridiculous post in the history of the internet. You realize homosexuality isn't a disease and can't be cured by scientist. Why do you want them to even try? You simply can't deny family is biology, more specifically genetics. If you would stop spewing hatred and intolerance for a second you would realize the very title of the thread proves you wrong. Princesses are royalty, they are part of a Royal FAMILY. A woman can only be royalty because she has a royal bloodline or marry into a royal family. In either case, it would be impossible for a homosexual princess to reproduce and continue her royal bloodline / family (sorry adoption doesn't count). It's too bad when bigots try to spread their ignorance and pornographic world view to children just to promote an agenda.

I'm done with this thread, too much ignorance and hatred being thrown around by uninformed social media terrorist.

You are aware that lesbians can get pregnant and bear children, right? And that gay men can also have biological children?

I'm not even sure what else you are trying to say, but you seem to have an obsession with graphic sex and pornography that doesn't really fit this forum. We are not the ones spreading hatred.

 

[MetalMasterC]

Congratulations on creating one of the most ridiculous post in the history of the internet. You realize homosexuality isn't a disease and can't be cured by scientist. Why do you want them to even try? You simply can't deny family is biology, more specifically genetics. If you would stop spewing hatred and intolerance for a second you would realize the very title of the thread proves you wrong. Princesses are royalty, they are part of a Royal FAMILY. A woman can only be royalty because she has a royal bloodline or marry into a royal family. In either case, it would be impossible for a homosexual princess to reproduce and continue her royal bloodline / family (sorry adoption doesn't count). It's too bad when bigots try to spread their ignorance and pornographic world view to children just to promote an agenda.

I'm done with this thread, too much ignorance and hatred being thrown around by uninformed social media terrorist.

Nothing you said in this response is remotely relevant to anything I have said in response to you. You either are creating strawmans, or literally have no clue. If anyone has the most ridiculous post in response, it would be you. So, good job. You claim I am the one who is being a bigot and hateful, yet you're the one that's doing that. You're talking to someone who IS LGBT. You're also trying to project the complete opposite of what I wrote. You're backtracking yourself and making me and others who don't fit into your train of thought a villain.

Family is not scientific. It never was. Genetics is completely different. Again, you don't read very well. I never mentioned anything about reproduction. You put those words into my mouth. You are trying too hard.

Besides, this is a fairy tale. With magic. Spells. A fictitious work. ANYTHING can be made into reality. How about instead of over-analyzing a fairy tale, you take a look into what family really is.

 

[Dinohood]

guys disney could do a movie where the main person likes and guy or a girl you might not never know. In the movie where the kid could see ghosts the cheerleader try to hook up with the jock about a movie and he said my boyfriend will like that. If they did a movie that way would you care no cause you did not know in till the very end, think about it a girl and guy go on a trip and at the end the guy and girl get back to their family and they are a same sex parter it could work.

 

[atkinstogram]

Believe it or not; but, water is wet and a child cannot have 2 biological fathers or 2 biological mothers

It is entirely possible to have two biological mothers, a process that is legal in the UK..

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...-first-baby-born-with-new-3-parent-technique/

Science is a wonderfully adaptive thing, isn't it?

 

[tesmusic]

Biology is science, not an opinion or a belief, purely a fact. No loving and caring family has ever been offended by science. Are you offended that the world is round and not flat? Believe it or not; but, water is wet and a child cannot have 2 biological fathers or 2 biological mothers. I never decided what a family is, why do you get to decide what a family is and why do you hate traditional families so much? Are you saying traditional parents don't love their children and only LGBT parents love their children? Nothing says a biological parent loves a child more and in the real world there are many biological parents who have no business being parent. At least adoptive parents chose to be a child's parent. In my book that makes the adoptive LGBT parent more loving and more of a "real" parent than some traditional parents; but, that doesn't negate the science.

... and yes, I get to decide what is inappropriate for me and my family. You get to decide what you think is inappropriate. I would hope that we could agree that excessive displays of affection in public or exposing children to graphic sexual behaviors in an animated fairy tails just to promote the agenda of an extremely small but vocal minority is inappropriate; but, somehow I think that may be asking too much from some people.

What have their reactions and questions been about heterosexual couples kissing or showing affection on screen, and how did you handle it?

If you believe they're at an age that they will wonder about an LGBTQ character, even if they're not shown in a romantic moment, then surely they're perceptive enough to pick up on romantic overtones in heterosexual moments.

 

[tesmusic]

It's rather amusing that some are expressing their concerns over LGBTQ moments in movies, but can't answer a simple question about how they handle the questions about heterosexual moments. As I said, if these kids are understanding of love and affection enough to notice LGBTQ characters, they certainly would have questions about all types of affection.

 

[MarieKat]

LeFou had so many gay moments in BATB I didn't know which one counted. I can totally buy that the character was thought of as gay and coded as gay in both movies. Just because a straight audience doesn't always see it, doesn't mean it isn't there.