Disney is different now

What I don't want to see - and what is happening - is when people are walking around, staring at their phone, going, "we're 23 feet away from X". They're not soaking in the park, they're just reading a phone from point A to point B. Little kids playing with an iPad - instead of looking up and seeing what's around them. People stopping in the middle of the walkway, to read their dang MDX, or check their FP+.

Here's what I don't understand... why do you let what other people do bother you? Other than stopping in the middle of the walkway, yes that is annoying. But all the other stuff? Why do you (general, not directed at just you LOL) care? So what if someone else has their face stuck in their phone. So what if their kids are playing on an iPad. That's what I don't get.

As long as you are enjoying the scenery, what's going on around you, and you don't have your face in your phone, what does it matter if someone else does?

I disagree with the person that said Disney is making the parks ALL about cell phones. Cell phones and technology are a great tool to use to get wait times, change FP+ now, etc. I use my phone for all of this and have never felt like my entire vacation is ALL about my cell phone. I think that is a slight exaggeration.
 
Maybe this is just how my family is, but I didn't feel overly tied to my phone at all. In fact, the trip was far less stressful than I anticipated from reading the Disboards. Our process was thus; get off a ride/attraction and then pull up wait times to see what there was to do around us with a line we were willing to stand in. Test Track has a short line (20 minutes). Let's go. Phone into my pocket for the next check. I didn't feel tied to it or bound to use it. It made touring a lot easier for us. Dare I say I liked it? I was able to switch FastPass+ times when I needed to (except for two that I didn't try because I didn't expect to be able to switch them). It's not going to suit everyone, that's for sure, but I found it really useful and easy to use. And, really, I think this sort of thing is going to become a standard. People (maybe not all) want to use their phone for this sort of information. Does it always work perfectly? No. These boards tell us it doesn't, but it does, IMO, work well.


I think that is the intention...
 
I've read through every page of this thread, and I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts on OP's photos that were posted a few pages ago. Personally, photos 1 and 2 made me want to hurl.

I saw them and was shocked and disgusted. That's not acceptable on any vacation.
 

I've read through every page of this thread, and I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts on OP's photos that were posted a few pages ago. Personally, photos 1 and 2 made me want to hurl.

I can take a few things with me from this thread for my next trip.

Clearly, there are kinks to work out, and many folks have had issues with their magic bands. I will prepare for that possibility, and be pleasantly surprised if it all goes well.

In all my trips, I have never run into rude CM's. Some lacking in knowledge? Yes. I did once see a guest yelling at a CM about something and felt awful for that CM. She just stood there while the guest was sccreaming at her. I found that unacceptable.

We have had minor issues over the years with room issues but nothing major. Not filth as I saw in OP's photos.

I do think that the attitude of some Disney guests has drastically changed. Many have eluded to this. The sense of entitlement by some guests is radical, but the sense of entitlement ugly face rears it's head in many places, not just at Disney. This is not to say that this is the case for OP.

I have enjoyed reading the differing opinions from folks with regard to what Disney and it's guests are going through as Disney changes.

I saw the pictures OP posted, but without context there's not much I can say. I'm not calling the OP a liar, but I don't know them from Adam and unless I was there, saw them walk into a filthy room...you know? I have no idea if it was them that spilled on the phone or even if the phone was clean but stained. It's all impossible to tell. I can only go on my experience. Our room at POR was clean. I saw nothing that concerned me. The grounds were clean and beautiful, the pool area was clean and our room was clean. In fact, I think housekeeping did a pretty good job working around all of our crap. We had five people staying for a week, so we had a lot of things and when we returned to the room every evening, it looked nice. Clean. Despite our crap.

DO I find it possible out of the thousands of rooms and hundreds of housekeepers that someone got a bad housekeeper and a dirty room? Sure.
 
I saw the pictures OP posted, but without context there's not much I can say. I'm not calling the OP a liar, but I don't know them from Adam and unless I was there, saw them walk into a filthy room...you know? I have no idea if it was them that spilled on the phone or even if the phone was clean but stained. It's all impossible to tell. I can only go on my experience. Our room at POR was clean. I saw nothing that concerned me. The grounds were clean and beautiful, the pool area was clean and our room was clean. In fact, I think housekeeping did a pretty good job working around all of our crap. We had five people staying for a week, so we had a lot of things and when we returned to the room every evening, it looked nice. Clean. Despite our crap.

DO I find it possible out of the thousands of rooms and hundreds of housekeepers that someone got a bad housekeeper and a dirty room? Sure.

Are you serious? We had just checked in. Even if the phone was stain that is still not acceptable. I guess we made the dust bunnies too. If they thought we were lying is not like they couldn't check we were in epcot all day and by time we went into the park do the math how much time we were at the room. Clearly we also made holes in the towels. People here can be so ridiculous.

 
Are you serious? We had just checked in. Even if the phone was stain that is still not acceptable. I guess we made the dust bunnies too. If they thought we were lying is not like they couldn't check we were in epcot all day and by time we went into the park do the math how much time we were at the room. Clearly we also made holes in the towels. People here can be so ridiculous.


Totally serious. Sorry. I'm not ridiculous, that's just my opinion. Look, I don't know you at all and I don't have anything invested in your situation. If you got a filthy room, you're right to be upset. I'm saying, that without being there and seeing that I can't really say whether or not I think unacceptable things happened. I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just skeptical.
 
I disagree with the person that said Disney is making the parks ALL about cell phones. Cell phones and technology are a great tool to use to get wait times, change FP+ now, etc. I use my phone for all of this and have never felt like my entire vacation is ALL about my cell phone. I think that is a slight exaggeration.

What I wrote was the following: "if Disney starts making the parks all about smart phones, we might as well just stay at home..."

I didn't say that has happened yet, but I do think the current trend is not good. Theme parks should be an escape from the outside world. You shouldn't need a gizmo to get through your theme park day. For those of us who don't want or can't afford the gizmo du jour, Disney has an obligation to have the resources in place, right there in the park, to meet our needs.

On a related topic, I hear that some of the Disney resorts now refuse to give you a room key as a backup to the infernal MBs. Is that a vote of confidence that the MB never screws up? They are leaving people high and dry, because we are reading countless reports from posters that the damn things do screw up, and quite often.

In the past, if your room key wasn't working, they could give you another one in no time. Now, if they refuse to give you a backup to the MB and it fouls up, you're stuck tinkering with the damn MB until/if it ever decides to work. They can't just give you a replacement MB, right?
 
What I wrote was the following: "if Disney starts making the parks all about smart phones, we might as well just stay at home..." I didn't say that has happened yet, but I do think the current trend is not good. Theme parks should be an escape from the outside world. You shouldn't need a gizmo to get through your theme park day. For those of us who don't want or can't afford the gizmo du jour, Disney has an obligation to have the resources in place, right there in the park, to meet our needs. On a related topic, I hear that some of the Disney resorts now refuse to give you a room key as a backup to the infernal MBs. Is that a vote of confidence that the MB never screws up? They are leaving people high and dry, because we are reading countless reports from posters that the damn things do screw up, and quite often. In the past, if your room key wasn't working, they could give you another one in no time. Now, if they refuse to give you a backup to the MB and it fouls up, you're stuck tinkering with the damn MB until/if it ever decides to work. They can't just give you a replacement MB, right?

I thought e refusal to give back up keys was to stop the double dipping on fast passes. Now the legacy fats passes are gone they might be happier to give KTTW again.
 
$8.00 a hour isn't even a living wage.
I'm sure Disney is watching ppl's hours like crazy too, because once you average over 30 hours a week over a certain period, all the new health care laws kick in too.

When I first moved to Florida, I thought about working at Disney - at least for a little. Casting felt like a cattle drive, and the recruiters worked as quickly as the could to interview, decide and move on. I decided I wanted Disney to be my happy place and not my work place - so I told them no thanks.

That's appalling. This is a company charging premium prices for a premium product, and they can't even pay their front-line employees properly? Yes, if they raised CM wages, their almighty bottom line would take a hit. In the short term. Their profits would drop from outrageous to somewhat less outrageous. Horrors!

All sarcasm aside, I believe it would be a smart, long term move. Higher wages would mean attracting a better quality of service worker. You retain those people longer, as they gain experience and become better at their jobs. In turn, those promoted from within would be of higher quality. CMs would be happier, since they are being better compensated to deal with all the stresses of their jobs. They wouldn't have the feeling that "they're not paying me enough for this!"

This would all translate to better guest satisfaction, and greater customer loyalty. Guests would be more inclined to come back sooner (or at all) because their vacation is less likely to be marred by angry or incompetent CMs. As a bonus, those stories of surly CMs and bad service wouldn't make it onto social media for all to read! Disney's once ironclad reputation for excellent customer service would not take so many hits.

If Disney was willing/able to think more in the long term, they would see the value of treating their employees right.
 
I would have but in addition to the points the above poster mentioned, I would have expected them to use the new technology with the old system and let you book one at a time as your next window opened, on a similar principle to the way legacy FP worked (so efficiently IMO). I did not expect to be limited to what rides I can FP, how many I can select, being restricted to one FP per day for any particular ride and I would certainly never have expected the side effect of lengthy standby lines at attractions that have barely ever seen a line, in addition to being pretty much 'locked out' of the headliners without spending silly amounts of time in line. It just feels like they had this great idea and it was all good to a point, but then when it got to putting it in place, they started making it up as they went along

Totally agree!!!!
 
My husband & I will be at Disney in 38 days, I set up a few fastpasses online already & made my ADR's, not a single issue with any of them. We do not have a smartphone or tablet, we will enjoy the parks the same way we always have, get there early, ride what we feel like, enjoy each others company & the time we actually have to spend together but most of all we will make our own magic, not expect Disney to make it for us. Instead of looking for trash or stained ceiling tiles I plan on looking for the gorgeous flowers blooming during the Flower & Garden Festival, you're on vacation people, the glass is half full, not half empty!
 
Are you serious? We had just checked in. Even if the phone was stain that is still not acceptable. I guess we made the dust bunnies too. If they thought we were lying is not like they couldn't check we were in epcot all day and by time we went into the park do the math how much time we were at the room. Clearly we also made holes in the towels. People here can be so ridiculous.

Aww, come on...we know you're just an anti-Disney plant! Pictures, shmickshers....you probably got them off the internet. I'm sorry, I think I need proof of identification first. And a picture (with a date on it) of you and the housekeeping person who came to your room. I mean, how are we to believe you, you could be an alien for all I know? In fact, I think I'm going with that....yeah, you're an anti-Disney alien! :smokin:

...wait..... :rotfl2:, ..... can't stop..... :lmao:

Ok, for what it's worth, I totally believe you(even though I think you are the very first person to complain about a Disney resort room, right guys? I'm almost sure of it). I think it's disgusting and I'm sorry that happened to you. We've stayed at all levels at WDW and never had that happen. Many times I've used skyauction to get condos down there and have paid as little as $220 for a week and we never, never had a room look like that. You pay a lot for a Disney room and it shouldn't look like that, that's for sure.

on a side note...I'm sorry for the sarcasm. This board just brings it out sometimes..... ;)
 
Aww, come on...we know you're just an anti-Disney plant! Pictures, shmickshers....you probably got them off the internet. I'm sorry, I think I need proof of identification first. And a picture (with a date on it) of you and the housekeeping person who came to your room. I mean, how are we to believe you, you could be an alien for all I know? In fact, I think I'm going with that....yeah, you're an anti-Disney alien! :smokin:

...wait..... :rotfl2:, ..... can't stop..... :lmao:

Ok, for what it's worth, I totally believe you(even though I think you are the very first person to complain about a Disney resort room, right guys? I'm almost sure of it). I think it's disgusting and I'm sorry that happened to you. We've stayed at all levels at WDW and never had that happen. Many times I've used skyauction to get condos down there and have paid as little as $220 for a week and we never, never had a room look like that. You pay a lot for a Disney room and it shouldn't look like that, that's for sure.

on a side note...I'm sorry for the sarcasm. This board just brings it out sometimes..... ;)

I never said that. :confused3 Do I think there are people who will embellish or fabricate stories on the Internet? Yes, I do. Do I think the OP is one? I don't really know. What I said was that without having much of a frame of reference I didn't have much to say to defend or deny that position and that I do think it's possible to have housekeeping problems at any property at any time.

I'm absolutely NOT one of those people who think Disney never does anything wrong. If there is a huge rash of people reporting dirty Disney hotel rooms, I'd tend to believe that there's a major problem, but a few people having issues doesn't a real problem make, IMO.
 
Actually, they are being underpaid to deliver that service, and the job is more difficult than ever, thanks to the new tech crap Disney is trying to force down everyone's throat (open wider, please...).

I have read many times that, in Walt's day, working at Disneyland was a career choice. Today, the company has huge financial resources, but treats their employees like burger flippers at McDonald's. This is a company that (in the past) earned a sterling reputation for customer service, but underpays and undertrains their staff, and does a poor job of recruiting. Of course, how can you recruit the best service people when they will be underappreciated, overworked and barely earn a living wage? The best potential CMs will go elsewhere, for a real job.

I used to work frontline with homeless people and at-risk families. And I can assure you, it was hard to be perky and sympathetic at times. But that was my job. Just like any job where you are the face of the charity, government agency or company and have to come into contact with people who have complaints, grievances and just plain old bad days. If your priest got tired of hearing confessions, I think you'd find that ridiculous. Just so the CM who doesn't want to hear that somebody missed their fp because their ADR ran late...again.

Having said that, I worked 2 jobs frontline -- left the first after 2 years because there was no support from the boss. I stayed at the second until the church that housed our offices was closed and I still keep in touch with my bosses. They were the ones who knew how hard my job was and they were the ones who forced us to take breaks, sometimes before we needed them. Sometimes it was 5 minutes, sometimes it was a day or a week. They also brought me food at meal time because some times I was so busy I forgot to eat.

So yes, the CMs really aren't allowed to have a bad day, or at least to show it. But I will say they aren't getting much support -- so many of them are dealing with FP+, etc when that isn't even their job. I was at Concierge one day to get directions (i was the only one not booking FPs) and heard one comment "hey, did you notice they added a FP+ button to our computers?" Another said "yeah, they don't tell us anything".

And while it may suck to be a family standing in the check-in line for what seems like forever, I have to wonder why it takes about half an hour now for each family to check in, even if they have checked in online before arriving. I didn't see anything the CM did to make it take longer, but it took a lot longer than previous years. No doubt this must be frustrating for everyone.

We actually didn't have any cranky CMs -- just not as happy as I remembered, like somebody said it seemed like they were in survival mode.

What I wrote was the following: "if Disney starts making the parks all about smart phones, we might as well just stay at home..."

I didn't say that has happened yet, but I do think the current trend is not good. Theme parks should be an escape from the outside world. You shouldn't need a gizmo to get through your theme park day. For those of us who don't want or can't afford the gizmo du jour, Disney has an obligation to have the resources in place, right there in the park, to meet our needs.

On a related topic, I hear that some of the Disney resorts now refuse to give you a room key as a backup to the infernal MBs. Is that a vote of confidence that the MB never screws up? They are leaving people high and dry, because we are reading countless reports from posters that the damn things do screw up, and quite often.

In the past, if your room key wasn't working, they could give you another one in no time. Now, if they refuse to give you a backup to the MB and it fouls up, you're stuck tinkering with the damn MB until/if it ever decides to work. They can't just give you a replacement MB, right?

We had 2 resort stays on our trip and I asked for cards both times. I was told they didn't have the cards so it was no longer an option.

But... our RFID cards took a few tries to get them working so we could get into our resort room last year. So it's not just the bands. The bands, though, are hit and miss. Some work better than others, some scanners work better than others, and sometimes it seems like the system just isn't cooperating.
 
I never said that. :confused3 Do I think there are people who will embellish or fabricate stories on the Internet? Yes, I do. Do I think the OP is one? I don't really know. What I said was that without having much of a frame of reference I didn't have much to say to defend or deny that position and that I do think it's possible to have housekeeping problems at any property at any time.

I'm absolutely NOT one of those people who think Disney never does anything wrong. If there is a huge rash of people reporting dirty Disney hotel rooms, I'd tend to believe that there's a major problem, but a few people having issues doesn't a real problem make, IMO.

For you maybe. But for the person staying there in that room, it's a problem. Does it matter if it only happens to one person in a thousand? Is it any less true because one room was like that and 100 aren't? Is she saying that ALL wdw rooms are like this? No, she saying her room was like that and she has pics. She's not saying there is a conspiracy. ;)

I'm been on this board a looooooong time. If anyone should be cynical, it's me! lol But I still tend to give someone the benefit of the doubt. Just me, I guess. Anyway, whatever.
 
My husband & I will be at Disney in 38 days, I set up a few fastpasses online already & made my ADR's, not a single issue with any of them. We do not have a smartphone or tablet, we will enjoy the parks the same way we always have, get there early, ride what we feel like, enjoy each others company & the time we actually have to spend together but most of all we will make our own magic, not expect Disney to make it for us. Instead of looking for trash or stained ceiling tiles I plan on looking for the gorgeous flowers blooming during the Flower & Garden Festival, you're on vacation people, the glass is half full, not half empty!

It has nothing to do with looking for those things. I have standards for my vacation, and WDW has always met those standards in the past. Now it seems their standards are slipping, but mine have not.
(I'm not referring just to the OP, I was there last summer and noticed things that would have never been in past trips).
 
You say you don't feel bad for Dis posters who knew that this change was happening, went anyway, and were less than thrilled with their experience. But you apparently want DIS posters to just post pixie dust here, voice their concerns to Disney and leave other potential guests in the dark to the perils of the testing.

THIS!:thumbsup2
 
For you maybe. But for the person staying there in that room, it's a problem. Does it matter if it only happens to one person in a thousand? Is it any less true because one room was like that and 100 aren't? Is she saying that ALL wdw rooms are like this? No, she saying her room was like that and she has pics. She's not saying there is a conspiracy. ;)

I'm been on this board a looooooong time. If anyone should be cynical, it's me! lol But I still tend to give someone the benefit of the doubt. Just me, I guess. Anyway, whatever.

Well, yes. The number of guests having cleanliness issues with their rooms are absolutely relevant. One guest having a problem with one room out of 25,000 is a far different problem than 1000 rooms out of 25,000 having a problem. Numbers are relevant, particularly if you're going to say that Disney is "slipping". Of course, if you're the guest with the gross room, that one room means more to you than any of the other 24,999. As it should. And I'm not suggesting that Disney shouldn't be providing clean, well maintained rooms and supplies. They should be, particularly for the prices they charge. What I'm saying is that 1) one room does not an epidemic make and it's not representative of a "problem" at Disneyworld and 2) I tend not to weight the occasional report too heavily for a multitude of reasons, including having absolutely no way to verify how things were or were not handled.
 

New Posts


Disney Vacation Planning. Free. Done for You.
Our Authorized Disney Vacation Planners are here to provide personalized, expert advice, answer every question, and uncover the best discounts. Let Dreams Unlimited Travel take care of all the details, so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy a stress-free vacation.
Start Your Disney Vacation
Disney EarMarked Producer






DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest DIS Tiktok DIS Twitter
Add as a preferred source on Google

Back
Top Bottom