Disney Hourly Salaries

[Josh Hendy]

I think that this explains a lot about both Disney's wage situation and their pricing.

 

[Minnesota!]

The starting pay for a college graduate at Disney (and a lot of other places, it sounds like!) makes me sad. My company, entry level, no degree necessary, starts at 15.10/hour. $31400 is a good chunk of money when you are just starting out. It would be nice to see Disney pay their CM's what they are worth. Like a PP said, an extra $2/hour would barely be a dent in their profits, and would go a long way in increasing CM morale. And attracting/retaining happier employees. Which only helps turn a profit when you have happy CMs = happy customers.

 

[Saxsoon]

In 2009, I was paid 7.50 as an intern, which was minimum wage. Get over it

 

[lockedoutlogic]

In 2009, I was paid 7.50 as an intern, which was minimum wage. Get over it

You were an intern...and I bet paid few if any bills (spring break airfare is not a "bill"...nor is iTunes)

So my question is: what was your point?

 

[Saxsoon]

You were an intern...and I bet paid few if any bills (spring break airfare is not a "bill"...nor is iTunes)

So my question is: what was your point?

Rent every month as well as my own food/utilities.

Unless things have changed for the intern program.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Rent every month as well as my own food/utilities.

Unless things have changed for the intern program.

The COLLEGE PROGRAM?!?

Lol...I thought you were talking about an internship...that's cheap, disposable labor.

I hate to break it to you...but I've been to that play/seen that fish before.

Did you notice what about 85% (maybe more) of the CPs/IPs had in common based on their economic backgrounds?

Funny how that works out.

 

[Saxsoon]

I have no idea what you are talking about. Be clear with your thoughts

 

[wilkeliza]

The COLLEGE PROGRAM?!?

Lol...I thought you were talking about an internship...that's cheap, disposable labor.

I hate to break it to you...but I've been to that play/seen that fish before.

Did you notice what about 85% (maybe more) of the CPs/IPs had in common based on their economic backgrounds?

Funny how that works out.

I'll be the one to put you in your place. Most COs and ICPs are not from super rich families. Many of them are average American families. Many have a ton of school debt. Most people who come from families with money aren't going to spend a semester at Disney because they won't thrive in that environment.

I did the program and paid for everything myself. Yes sometimes that did mean I had to do nothing outside of work and home because I was saving to do something else.

 

[wilkeliza]

I have no idea what you are talking about. Be clear with your thoughts

They are saying most people who do the DCP/ICP are from rich families where mommy and daddy support them on thr program and pay for everything.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

They are saying most people who do the DCP/ICP are from rich families where mommy and daddy support them on thr program and pay for everything.

Quick and easy to type, eh?

There are certainly exceptions...so as you say, I will not lump you in with the gaggle, flock or school. To each their own.

But...there is/was a general tactic when recruiting (placement of the campus info sessions and interviews/relay of the "offers" after interviews) that was fairly apparent. That's 1000% case with the international program. Does not apply to everyone...but consensus, stereotypes, and "common knowledge" do tend to gravitate towards certain things in certain situations. Play the averages.

I think the fact you seized on a general inference and spelled it out to the letter is a fairly strong acknowledgement of it. Why defend so quickly?

I'll just say I experienced the whole cycle. At least what I can remember that Big Bamboo, Bennigans, PI and Jungle Jims didn't kill off from the memory banks...

Came from the annual largest recruiting site/pool...lived it up...later worked with and managed people on both programs.

Don't get me wrong...it's wise on Disney's part. They pull thousands from a wide swath...maturity is not high...and need to do what they can do to guard against as many issues as they can. And you know there are issues. Just like they are heavily funded by governement job training programs for the "interns"...how that translates at the cash register at WOD or the frymaster at cosmic rays is up to you to decide.

Be honest..do you think the average is the Pell/stafford recipient or the check writers?

I'll tell you this: that may be different now than in my time due to the extreme, bubble cost of schools. That could make sense. Can't wait for that crash.

Didn't used to be that way over at Vista though...it is what it is.

But back off the tangent: I don't think "college programs doesn't get paid...get over it" is a truly fair or accurate assessment. 3 months in a dorm environment doesn't equate to many of the 55,000 other employees who dont go back to hugs after the semester. Just seemed a stretch.

I'll be over here...in my "place"...if you need me

All in good fun around here

 

[suebeelin]

For an entry level job straight out of college? That sounds fine to me and not at all shocking. $12/hour is approx 25K a year. Very doable with a roommate or multiple roommates. It's one thing if they offer considerably less than market rate -- but just being a college graduate does not entitle you to a minimum level of pay.

I started at a major and very well known media company straight out of college (not Disney). I believe my hourly rate was something like $12.12 an hour. Now 6 years and multiple positions later, I'm still with the company and making much more money. Had I balked at the starting salary, I would never have gotten the opportunity to work where I do.

Maybe Disney would have been a great fit for you and you could have moved up into better paying positions within a year or two.

My first entry level job out of college was 25k/yr.....as an anthropology major.... In 1993. It's 24 yrs later and same starting salary?!??

 

[lockedoutlogic]

My first entry level job out of college was 25k/yr.....as an anthropology major.... In 1993. It's 30+yrs later and same starting salary?!??

I was thinking the same thing...

$25,000 - with the cost of products - is basically the poverty line. Better have 6 roomates.

 

[suebeelin]

I was thinking the same thing...

$25,000 - with the cost of products - is basically the poverty line. Better have 6 roomates.

After what I had thought was a measly 25k starting salary in 1993 (in the midst of a recession post savings and loans scandal), I quit 4yrs later in 1997 and started off in an entry level position in a completely different industry making twice as much (45k).

In my 26yr old angst, I quit my job, moved across the country (NYC to SF) knowing no one and wanted to start from scratch. Within a month I recieved a job offer at the place I was temping at for 45k/yr working 9-5.

So..... 1993 with a 25k starting salary (despite being a lousy anthropology major). That was 24yrs ago.

Then, in 1997, 45k starting salary with no experience (except temping for a month) for another entry level position. That was 20yrs ago.

And ppl now get paid the same or less just out of college?!?! That's not wage stagnation, that's more like a huge reversal....

I'm so worried for my 6 and 3yr old kids.

 

[DrunkJam]

You know what would work?

Linking top of the tree (CEO / COO / etc) salaries, with bottom of the tree (CMs / Cleaners / cashiers) salaries.

So, The CEO should not make more than say 20x the salary of their lowest paid employee. Then if they give themselves a 2% pay rise, or a 10% pay rise, or whatever, the lowest paid person ALSO gets a 2% / 10% / whatever pay rise.

This leads to open, and transparent pay scales, in which each person can see their value to the whole, and in which each person is valued within the whole. This leads to happier employees, fewer sick days, lower staff turn over, higher productivity... (thus it's a win win, since many of the expenses of being an employer are reduced)

I really find it odd that people genuinely believe that working full time should not be a guarantee of being able to pay the basic living expenses of a person.

 

[DVCcurious]

I keep editing this, hoping to keep it within the political guidelines.

The fact is you can't discuss Income Inequality without discussing politics, and specifically political campaign contributions.

A politician receives millions from Wall Street. When they get in power what issue are they going to push? Income inequality or maybe some culture war that affects very few people? Do you REALLY think a politician will spit in the face of someone who gave them millions of dollars? Spit in the face of people they NEED to contribute even more in a couple years so those politicians can get re-elected? So instead of attacking the Moneyed Interests they do their bidding and invent a new "outrage" in the culture wars. As long as the Moneyed Interests on both sides push irrelevant culture wars we will continue to yell at each other about the culture wars and ignore income inequality. That's EXACTLY how Wall Street wants it.

The culture wars come down to a 50/50 split on most things (abortion, affirmative action, immigration, etc). 50% of the population are winners, and 50% are losers. But Income Inequality affects like 90% of us. In the case of abortion, 50% of us are losers, in the case of income inequality 90% of us are losers. So why don't we focus on income inequality? Why do we spend so much time worrying about where a transexual can go pee? Because that's the way the Moneyed Interest wants it. If we focus on public restrooms we won't be focusing on the fact that the average Fortune 500 CEO makes millions per year.


But do our politicians spend any real amount of time legislating this? Nope. They give it lip service during the campaign, but after the votes are counted Income Inequality is forgotten for another 4 years. They say "yes income inequality matters, but we can't worry about that, because right now Texas is trying to restrict abortion rights! Oh my god! Grab the pitchforks and head to Texas!" As long as you're not grabbing your pitchforks and heading to New York City all the politicians are happy as can be.

The average salary is WAY DOWN since 1975 (inflation adjusted)...but you have THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE! And that is more important........




Isn't it?

 

[Josh Hendy]

I don't blame Disney for paying the prevailing wage rates, as bad as they are.

But I blame Disney execs and all executives of major corporations for not using their power and influence to fight against the way things are run at the top, meaning at the top levels of banking and government. It is at those levels that the policies are set which virtually guarantee that the only way to run a business is by strip-mining the middle class and keeping everyone else as poor and dumb as possible.

But frankly, Disney execs are too cowardly and far too implicated in those terrible policies and the way the system works to do anything about it. Any up-and-coming executive who showed signs of having a conscience and who insisted on advocating ethics and morals with respect to the big picture of How the Country is Run would be very quickly weeded out.

We're in an inflationary bubble which uses the massive and unrestrained creation of money out of thin air in the form of "credit" (loans) as a so-called engine of the economy. Obviously this is a ludicrous idea and it is no wonder that it leaves everyone at the bottom of the credit pyramid in more or less desperate financial condition. I mean ... really ... debt = wealth? If it sounds ridiculous on a personal level then it's just as ridiculous on the national level.

The very first step to take is to un-cloud your mind and see things the way they are, and then determine why they are that way.

So stop complaining about it. It's your own damn fault for voting the way you have been.

I think it's pretty clear from the last several decades that it doesn't matter who you vote for. The same policies are implemented and reinforced no matter which party is in power, and whenever people "get angry" and vote in a protest candidate, it makes practically no difference. Think of Jesse Ventura and the Schwarzenator.

All you can do is try to manage your own personal situation in a clear-headed way, which takes into account the fact that much of what takes place in the echelons above you (big business and government) are basically evil, fraudulent scams. With respect to Disney, you have to be absolutely hard-headed with your vacation dollars. Magic yes ... but magic provided by impoverished front-line employees for the benefit of multi-millionaire executives and billionaire hedge fund managers? You can speak with your wallet, and there is nothing stopping you from speaking directly to the executives and fund managers. You might not have their mobile # but believe me, if enough of you try to tell them how you feel, they'll hear you.

 

[suebeelin]

Ugh

 

[wilkeliza]

Quick and easy to type, eh?

There are certainly exceptions...so as you say, I will not lump you in with the gaggle, flock or school. To each their own.

But...there is/was a general tactic when recruiting (placement of the campus info sessions and interviews/relay of the "offers" after interviews) that was fairly apparent. That's 1000% case with the international program. Does not apply to everyone...but consensus, stereotypes, and "common knowledge" do tend to gravitate towards certain things in certain situations. Play the averages.

I think the fact you seized on a general inference and spelled it out to the letter is a fairly strong acknowledgement of it. Why defend so quickly?

I'll just say I experienced the whole cycle. At least what I can remember that Big Bamboo, Bennigans, PI and Jungle Jims didn't kill off from the memory banks...

Came from the annual largest recruiting site/pool...lived it up...later worked with and managed people on both programs.

Don't get me wrong...it's wise on Disney's part. They pull thousands from a wide swath...maturity is not high...and need to do what they can do to guard against as many issues as they can. And you know there are issues. Just like they are heavily funded by governement job training programs for the "interns"...how that translates at the cash register at WOD or the frymaster at cosmic rays is up to you to decide.

Be honest..do you think the average is the Pell/stafford recipient or the check writers?

I'll tell you this: that may be different now than in my time due to the extreme, bubble cost of schools. That could make sense. Can't wait for that crash.

Didn't used to be that way over at Vista though...it is what it is.

It was late so I'll apologize for saying put you in your place but it was pretty clear what you were getting at.
But back off the tangent: I don't think "college programs doesn't get paid...get over it" is a truly fair or accurate assessment. 3 months in a dorm environment doesn't equate to many of the 55,000 other employees who dont go back to hugs after the semester. Just seemed a stretch.

I'll be over here...in my "place"...if you need me

All in good fun around here

 

[Keels]

I'm not like this. I would gladly take $15 an hour if I didn't have massive student loan payments sucking me dry. I work 6 days a week right now plus I run a side business just so I can EAT, man. I'm not 'entitled'. The rich kids I went to school with might be like this, though.

Business. I'm an accounting clerk, for which starting pay is about $10-13/hour. I make $15. I work for the company I did my internship with. Sadly, I also made the mistake of taking out $70,000 in loans for a business degree from a liberal arts college.

Did you go to Rollins? I graduated from there in 2003 with an Economics degree (and years towards an advanced degree I finished here in Texas) and while I didn't have the student loans you mention - none of the undergrads I Pro Mentor do either at the level you're talking about.

If you want to PM me, I can help guide you through programs for deferring loans and other programs that can help to alleviate the financial stress those loans are causing.

 

[DizDaD7]

Hmmm.They wouldn't have to pay me that much at all to play---> Goofy.This just comes naturally...