yeah.... this is interesting..... it's been stated on this thread SO many times... the nature of churning (for anything) is variable and completely YMMV from one day to the next- things can and do change regularly,and the more people learn about one way to do things,the quicker it changes. It's how it works,so I personally don't think the "simple" route of ebay/target/ebay is coming back,ever,in the way it WAS done. This thread is full of info, but most of it is now (sadly) out of date. Churning, by it's nature isn't usually 'low hanging fruit' or 'easy'. It takes some time,effort,and thought to get that extra deal,or everyone would do it,and it wouldn't be a special deal, it would simply be the price. In most other forums, you really have to DIG to find the info to even begin. Why? b/c the deal lasts longer that way. (I've been learning things about churning for 3 years now,I don't use most of it tho) While I love this board,and this thread, it has its downsides,and that is 'too much information' can kill the deal. So reality? No one can tell you exactly what to do next, you simply watch,and wait(if you can) google terms you don't know,and learn to read between lines.... and most important,NEVER risk what you can't afford to play with. Even if I never make another cent in discounts on this idea, I always have an idea of how to get (at least) the $$$ I put into trying this.