Disney Genie announcement

[shawthorne44]

Yeah, but you’ll care if that person was online and part of a crowd booking passes that then pushes your time out to 8pm just so that they can get one more ride in.

This is very much how FPP worked. If you started at noon, the odds of your getting a 4th FPP were slim, and a 5th even less so. But the people that were finished with the 3 FPP early were booking their extra ones before noon.

G+ should be better for those that sleep in because of the no-reride rule. Those that are getting their rides in early can't get the same rides later. So, there will be availability for those that start later.

 

[Jrb1979]

no one knows for sure until it rolls out.

but like I had commented early that's exactly how maxpass worked and it's not skirting the rules if Disney lets it happens- it's maximizing the system they give you. The only park opening at 8 is AK..

so give MK with a 9 am opening

I book my first genie + at 7 and get a return time for 9-10am (the first available slot of the day)

since I booked at 7 I can book another at 9. I book another at 9 and get a (10-11) return time.

ive just enjoyed early entry having rode 2-3 rides and now I'm going to go use my two lightening lanes and the park just opened. I use them and can book another. Every 2 hours or when I use a lightening line before the 2 hours I can book another one.

we take an afternoon break- before I take the break I check return times and see some that are later in the evening. I book one more than 2 hours away. We get to the hotel and take a break and since my booking was more than 2 hours and it's been 2 hours I book another one for the evening. My family heads back to the park with 2 booked for the evening.

I have this feeling that the 2 hour thing will only work once in the park. You will probably be able to book your first one at 7am. Your next can't be booked til you enter the park. Otherwise those you don't go to the parks til later just load up on LL

 

[katyringo]

I have this feeling that the 2 hour thing will only work once in the park. You will probably be able to book your first one at 7am. Your next can't be booked til you enter the park. Otherwise those you don't go to the parks til later just load up on LL

maybe. But if you rope drop you would be in the park by 9..

 

[Jrb1979]

maybe. But if you rope drop you would be in the park by 9..

True. But you would still be in the park to book your 2nd one. The way it's setup it feels like they don't really want people stacking.

 

[SCDisneyfanatic]

I looked at the Disney News Release and have a question...although I'm afraid I already know the answer. For the two rides listed as ILL rides, does that mean I can't get those with Genie+? It appears they are separate and the two in ILL are not listed again in the Genie+ lists. Thanks.

 

[thptrek]

Our first day is the 19th and we are heading to AK. Will be fun to see how it works. I'll book my first Genie+ at 7am and our first LL$. Then will see what the app will let us do for stacking as the day wears on.

Park opens at 8am. I plan to get a Genie+ for KS with 8-9 window. LL$ for FOP 10-11 window. As soon as the app will let me I'll do a Genie+ for Navi River. If EE has no wait early we will do that as we walk from Safari to FOP. This at least is our plan. All subject to change.

 

[thptrek]

I looked at the Disney News Release and have a question...although I'm afraid I already know the answer. For the two rides listed as ILL rides, does that mean I can't get those with Genie+? It appears they are separate and the two in ILL are not listed again in the Genie+ lists. Thanks.

Yes, ILL are separate and you pay for Lightening Lane access. Not included and totally separate from Genie+

 

[MainMom]

I think this is going to fundamentally change touring for a lot of people. When you cannot book something for the evening without giving up booking anything else all day, there is more of a chance that people will book as they go and availability for all rides in the evening will actually last much longer.

On the other hand, those who enjoy sleeping in, can wake at 7am and book a time for something at 1pm, so I think that availability for afternoon may decrease.

Except that you can’t choose your genie+ time since it’s next available. They may have to keep refreshing and checking back for the later time frame.

 

[elgerber]

Our first day is the 19th and we are heading to AK. Will be fun to see how it works. I'll book my first Genie+ at 7am and our first LL$. Then will see what the app will let us do for stacking as the day wears on.

Park opens at 8am. I plan to get a Genie+ for KS with 8-9 window. LL$ for FOP 10-11 window. As soon as the app will let me I'll do a Genie+ for Navi River. If EE has no wait early we will do that as we walk from Safari to FOP. This at least is our plan. All subject to change.

I'm glad it starts on our Epcot day, so we at least have time in the morning to see how it's working rather than having to book while on the way to a park.

 

[sponica]

I don't think Genie+ will be utilized by everyone *in the real world* to the extent that it will be utilized by *everyone on this thread*

I like the idea but if it's a daily add on, and not all or nothing, I'm not using it every day.
A) 45 x 7 = math I can't do right now
B) Right now I don't see 15 dollars to skip the safari and navi river as "worth it", even if I do hop to Epcot in the PM
C) In Epcot, I don't see 15 dollars to skip the lines of the rides I do as "worth it".

I haven't decided my ILL strategy yet. I think at AK, I'm just inclined to wait standby for Everest as we have to rider swap.

I'm not sure I've seen this yet, but if you have non-ticketed riders, can they go through the ILL line on the family rides (Remy, FEA and MMRR?)

 

[SCDisneyfanatic]

A little help here: I'm not sure how the ILL works, but lets say I head to Frozen in EPCOT and the line is 60 minutes. Can I then go to the ILL and pay on the spot and do the ride? Or is it something I need to decide well in advance?

 

[sponica]

A little help here: I'm not sure how the ILL works, but lets say I head to Frozen in EPCOT and the line is 60 minutes. Can I then go to the ILL and pay on the spot and do the ride? Or is it something I need to decide well in advance?

You can definitely see what ILL times are available on the spot. So the question will be is it more advantageous *to you* to wait the 60 minutes or is whatever slot may be available better?

ETA: If the next ILL slot is in 3 hours, does that work better or worse than the 60 minute standby wait?

 

[snikki]

A little help here: I'm not sure how the ILL works, but lets say I head to Frozen in EPCOT and the line is 60 minutes. Can I then go to the ILL and pay on the spot and do the ride? Or is it something I need to decide well in advance?

I think Disney will be pushing for that. I don’t think most ILL rides will sell out that early in the day.

 

[Marionnette]

A little help here: I'm not sure how the ILL works, but lets say I head to Frozen in EPCOT and the line is 60 minutes. Can I then go to the ILL and pay on the spot and do the ride? Or is it something I need to decide well in advance?

You are not guaranteed to enter the LL immediately in this scenario. It's quite possible that an ILL$ slot may not be available for immediate entry. Instead, you would be offered a selection of return time windows to choose from.

 

[BridgetR3]

People keep saying “it’s confirmed” but the only confirmation is from a Q&A which is NOT confirmation, IMO. When it’s written down somewhere, THAT’S confirmation.

Also, if the passes are “next available”, then anyone getting up at 7am should be getting the passes that are available pretty much within an hour of opening, unless all the “super tourists” get up at 7am, thus pushing the times out, which would absolutely SUCK for ”normal” people who wait to get into the park to schedule their first ride. This is why we can’t have nice things - because some people are determined to skirt the rules in order to get more for themselves.

I REALLY hope that the rule of having to use your pass before getting another one sticks.

If Disney is saying book at 7 a.m. and then 2 hours later you can book a second ride, why would "normal" people wait until they got to the park? I don't feel as if following the directions as set by Disney is being determined to skirt the rules, after all we used to be able to "stack" three rides at 60 days out and then grab as many as possible day of.

No offense at all but honestly I'm in the other camp and hope that the book every two hours at least is the way it works because if your first choice is something that is going fast and you pull a 7p.m. for that one, then you would be stuck without any LL all day until 7 p.m. and historically speaking with both of the old fastpass systems, not much is left after 7 p.m.

 

[SCDisneyfanatic]

Appreciate the feedback. We go the week after next. I'm hoping for some good feedback next week, but at the least, we will give it a shake down and report back here.

 

[DisneyKidds]

Simple: LL availability might go to zero, but Genie+ will always be available. In otherwords, Disney will be happy to sell you Genie+ even if it is useless.

There’s the rub. They can always sell more Genie+ (it will never sell out) because there will always be a ride available for Genie+ LL….but it’s feasible (as the day wears on) that there may not be any rides available that you actually want to ride. If all that is available to me at some point is Philharmagic or Carousel of Progress than it would be a waste of $15 pp. I’m glad I’ve got plenty of time before our next WDW trip to see how it all plays out in practice. We are going to DL for a few days in November so we’ll probably try it there just to get a feel for it.

 

[itf]

I think Disney will be pushing for that. I don’t think most ILL rides will sell out that early in the day.

As an offsite guest I'm definitely worried about being locked out of even paying for Remy / ROTR, even though I resent the idea of paying for them in the first place.

 

[DisneyKidds]

Something nobody seems to be talking about….but didn’t the Genie+ announcements/speculations initially allude to the possibility that, during busy parts of the day, the ability to get on a standby line could be limited????

 

[snikki]

As an offsite guest I'm definitely worried about being locked out of even paying for Remy / ROTR, even though I resent the idea of paying for them in the first place.

Those are the two I think will sell out quicker. And FOP too. The rest I think are safe.