Disney finally Made Me Mad

[morethananyonex]

Don't like it, don't go. Don't like it, don't open thread. What's the difference? I suggested one, you suggested the other. Your second paragraph is a contradiction. In one sentence you say that you "don't know why it always comes down to don't like it don't go". But then you suggest not opening a thread if I don't like it. Hilarious!

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Whoosh, right over your head. There is no difference. I even used your wording .

That was said to highlight how silly your initial comment was, because you're here when nobody is making you, complaining about what you see.

 

[JeremyGNJ]

This is the Dis. 20 pages have been dedicated to all sorts of topics. Page count infers nothing. And to me, it's simple. If you don't like Pooh being a FP+, then don't do it or don't go. Most threads are about people complaining. Unless complaining makes you happy, why do it all day everyday? If Disney is truly making you mad, then don't spend your money there.

Amen

 

[2Tiggies]

No, it's not about Pooh.

Correct. It is about the idea, which is Poo[p]

 

[clsteve]

Sounds like a much better fit than the Minnie M/G at DHS then. I can't see her staying busy there until later in the day with FP+ only, especially with people having to choose between that and TSMM.

A lot of this must be about perception. The Tier One category at the tiered Parks suddenly looks more "robust". As Bcrook pointed out, it's not like it's generating a huge amount of capacity, unless these are just the first of several to come.

But seriously, to classify them as a Tier One, on par with Soarin', etc., I hope Minnie is giving a full Psychic Reading to Little Sally and Pooh is explaining the secrets of Long Division to Little Johnny. They have to be more interactive to justify Tier One FP+ only, one would hope.....

 

[mom2rtk]

Correct. It is about the idea, which is Poo[p]

I'm gonna miss seeing you over her on TPAS once your trip is over. Please promise you won't quit posting after your trip?

 

[morethananyonex]

But, you're wrong. That simple. Please quote my post complaining about what I saw/read. Where did I EVER suggest that you not complain. I just asked, "Why do it?"

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You're complaining about complaining, and questioning why people would go somewhere they don't like. Just like you're doing. Unless of course you like the complaining, but then why would you be complaining about it (or sorry, questioning it)?

 

[mom2rtk]

A lot of this must be about perception. The Tier One category at the tiered Parks suddenly looks more "robust. As Bcrook pointed out, it's not like it's generating a huge amount of capacity, unless these are just the first of several to come.

But seriously, to classify them as a Tier One, on par with Soarin', etc., I hope Minnie is giving a full Psychic Reading to Little Sally and Pooh is explaining the secrets of Long Division to Little Johnny. They have to be more interactive to justify Tier One FP+ only, one would hope.....

Maybe they'll have coloring pages like the exciting all new, more interactive experience they set up with Rapunzel and Flynn? I think their idea of "more interactive" is different from what mine would be. Time will have to tell.

Or maybe it will be super secret like the treasure room where you cannot take pictures on your own camera, but must instead purchase photopass if you want the keepsake?

Maybe they know nobody will schedule these tier 1 options, so it will always still be on the list? Maybe they needed something nobody would choose to make sure there was always something left?

 

[Praying Colonel]

Ya and see AE is not FP+ only as well? Just trying to think of a reason to do this? In the end it likely will be open for a 4th FP+ for those who want to.

I'm only up to page 6, but I think this is Disney using the "camel's nose under the tent" approach. They start FP+ only with a meet and greet that's fairly inconsequential. Then they cite its "success" as the basis for expanding it to all meet-and-greets, including A&E. From there they move it to rides, ending up with a reservation-only system where standby isn't allowed.

1971 called. They want their ride system back.

 

[mom2rtk]

I'm only up to page 6, but I think this is Disney using the "camel's nose under the tent" approach. They start FP+ only with a meet and greet that's fairly inconsequential. Then they cite its "success" as the basis for expanding it to all meet-and-greets, including A&E. From there they move it to rides, ending up with a reservation-only system where standby isn't allowed.

1971 called. They want their ride system back.

And that is why there is a 21 page thread about Pooh. It's not about Pooh.

 

[Reddog1134]

I'm pretty sure someone in the thread mentioned that the M&G's are(or may be) interactive. Has anyone considered they may be customized? Therefore, Disney requires a "reservation" to customize the experience to the guest.

 

[clsteve]

I'm only up to page 6, but I think this is Disney using the "camel's nose under the tent" approach. They start FP+ only with a meet and greet that's fairly inconsequential. Then they cite its "success" as the basis for expanding it to all meet-and-greets, including A&E. From there they move it to rides, ending up with a reservation-only system where standby isn't allowed.

1971 called. They want their ride system back.

 

[morethananyonex]

A lot of this must be about perception. The Tier One category at the tiered Parks suddenly looks more "robust". As Bcrook pointed out, it's not like it's generating a huge amount of capacity, unless these are just the first of several to come.

But seriously, to classify them as a Tier One, on par with Soarin', etc., I hope Minnie is giving a full Psychic Reading to Little Sally and Pooh is explaining the secrets of Long Division to Little Johnny. They have to be more interactive to justify Tier One FP+ only, one would hope.....

I think it's totally about perception. The numbers aren't large enough to have a significant impact on the problem attractions.

IMO they're aiming for "hey look, an exclusive meet & greet, let's book that!" and "oh wow, we can book an exclusive meet & greet as our 4th FP! Awesome!".

Just my guess, but I think the tier 1 status may be there to keep the majority from booking it in advance. When it competes with the tier 2 attractions at Epcot, it's suddenly one of the most popular options. When it competes with the tier 1 attractions, for the majority of guests it is 3rd in line at best.

 

[PlutoMars]

Why do you say that?

I say that because there are people that seemingly love to criticize and pile on every thing Disney does because:

1. It doesnt benefit them directly
2. They would do it so much better because they are an ___________ guru. Fill in the blank with Marketing, IT, advertising, accounting, etc.
3. They have never liked the FP+ rollout.

My experience using FP+ was less than stellar and if you can't handle the truth, then don't read these threads.

Oh, I can handle the truth. But the truth is....perception and truth are not always the same thing.

If you are happy getting less while paying more that is your business.

Is there one universal standard about perceived value for WDW across the board that every guest should be following?

 

[PoohsFan1]

What it looks like is that Disney is slowly doing away with just going up to a character to get a photo and a hug as you are strolling through the parks (however I hope I am wrong with this assumption), hopefully this is just a test to see what the guest's feed back would be on this. TBH the Winnie the Pooh M&G was never a huge deal for us in Epcot because we always have breakfast at Crystal Palace so we knew we would see them anyways, however, there were times where my kids were bored with me shopping in the UK Pavilion so they would get in line to go meet them because the wait was so short, plus it gave them something to do.

Also I don't get why it is a tier 1 selection either but then again doesn't Epcot already have the Character Spot as a tier 1 selection too? However, I do agree with the comment that this may be a way for Disney to make more FP+ selections since they rolled out the 4th and more FP+. Unfortunately Epcot is seriously lacking in FP+ options so Disney had to do something, but to make it a FP+ only attraction....I just can't wrap my head around that one.

 

[FLchick415]

IF they make it interactive and "personal", so to speak...THEN it would make a little bit more sense to have it be FP+ only. Time will tell I suppose.

 

[Planogirl]

What it looks like is that Disney is slowly doing away with just going up to a character to get a photo and a hug as you are strolling through the parks (however I hope I am wrong with this assumption), hopefully this is just a test to see what the guest's feed back would be on this. TBH the Winnie the Pooh M&G was never a huge deal for us in Epcot because we always have breakfast at Crystal Palace so we knew we would see them anyways, however, there were times where my kids were bored with me shopping in the UK Pavilion so they would get in line to go meet them because the wait was so short, plus it gave them something to do.

Also I don't get why it is a tier 1 selection either but then again doesn't Epcot already have the Character Spot as a tier 1 selection too? However, I do agree with the comment that this may be a way for Disney to make more FP+ selections since they rolled out the 4th and more FP+. Unfortunately Epcot is seriously lacking in FP+ options so Disney had to do something, but to make it a FP+ only attraction....I just can't wrap my head around that one.

I think that you hit the nail on the head. FP+ has only accentuated how lacking Epcot is nowadays so it looks better to add more options. It might also drive demand to those who aren't as familiar with the parks.

 

[clsteve]

I may have missed it, but does anyone know who has to burn a Tier One FP for this? Everybody in line?, just the child?, can the parent(s) and others be there with the kid(s) without burning a Tier One?

Seems to be another huge issue in having to plan Tier One's and potentially further splitting up a family with kids of different ages. This could be a very tough one to plan around.......

 

[practicallyperfect77]

I think that you hit the nail on the head. FP+ has only accentuated how lacking Epcot is nowadays so it looks better to add more options. It might also drive demand to those who aren't as familiar with the parks.

ITA it shows how lacking Epcot is. Next up FP+only for the bathrooms.

 

[morethananyonex]

I may have missed it, but does anyone know who has to burn a Tier One FP for this? Everybody in line?, just the child?, can the parent(s) and others be there with the kid(s) without burning a Tier One?

Seems to be another huge issue in having to plan Tier One's and potentially further splitting up a family with kids of different ages. This could be a very tough one to plan around.......

I imagine it will be the same as all the other FP+ enabled M&G, anybody who enters the queue needs a FP.

 

[NYDisGuy]

ITA it shows how lacking Epcot is. Next up FP+only for the bathrooms.

Or maybe busses/boats. Tier one for a seat out of Epcot after the fireworks!