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Ok, so I found out what hotel we have booked. We are currently booked in the Disneyland Hotel. I have been looking at the online booking and I do see how much cheaper the Good Neighbor hotels are...but I don't know if I really want to downgrade to that. GRRR...decisions decisions. From what the CM told me the room that we will be getting is really small, but I am hoping that we will get an upgrade. I know not very lickly, but can hope for it. I just need to find a way to earn a couple grand in a couple months and then I will rest assured that this will happen. The economy still stinks so bad, I don't know what I can do to earn the money. It is so frustrating. I wish there was something else I could think of that I could do to earn money...anyway...just wish us luck that we will get it paid off and be able to go. I will keep thinking of things we can do to earn the money to go. We still have $2500 or so to pay on the actual reservation, $800 for our train tickets, and then the couple of days extra for hotel...as well as food for 4 days and any souveniers and snacks. So, I am thinking we need about $1500 or so for food and souveniers...with that being said, we still need to get close to $5000 eeekkkkk!!!!! We have already paid $3500, so just send good thoughts that we can come up with the rest in 3.5 mo. Gosh, that isn't much time at all.

Thanks for keeping us posted! It's at least good to know exactly where you were booked before you arrive!!:rotfl2:

I had already suggested switching to the PPH before today, as you know, so I still think you could downgrade to that. It won't be a huge price cut from the price of the DLH, but most of the PPH standard rooms are pretty spacious. Well, none of them are big rooms, but any of us who have stayed in the PPH know that the rooms are a pretty decent size in comparison to the GCH, as far as floor space goes.

I'm not sure why the DLH room your dad booked is considered "small." Most of the DLH rooms are not that small. It makes me wonder what kind fo room you were booked in? The GCH standard rooms are small, and very little floor space to move around.

Did you take my suggestion and ask the reservations person if you are booked in a package (even if it doesn't seem like a package), or if it is considered "Room Only"? That's important to know if you are going to be making any kind of changes to the reservation. If it's considered a package of any kind by Disney, there will be a charge to change the reservation or cancel. And remember, it can be considered a package even without "tickets" involved.

And did you take PHXscuba's advice and ask for the details of the dining vouchers?

I think, at this point, you should look into the prices of the PPH. As I said, it won't be a huge price cut, but it will be slightly cheaper than the DLH. As I explained before, the PPH is across the street so it's a little less convenient but it is manageable. At least it would still be staying onsite, at a Disney hotel.

I wouldn't rule out downgrading to a Good Neighbor hotel across the street - for even at least half of your stay (you'll be at DLR a full week, after all). Yes, it's not a Disney hotel, but if there is a chance you won't be able to come up with the money to stay onsite, and, therefore, the trip won't happen, isn't it worth it to consider a Good Neighbor just to make sure the trip will happen? It would cost so much less money and it would be a huge load off your shoulders and your dad's shoulders, and the trip could still take place. You could split the stay - half of the trip at a Good Neighbor and half of the stay at the PPH (or DLH).
 
Two things - if you stay with the DLH, ask for a renovated room. They are fabulous. It is too bad the 2Q with day bed is sold out - they are about 50 sq larger. The other would be looking into changing to the PPH - it is less expensive than the DLH.

Keep us posted on what you decide - good luck!

I had explained to Scrappinbrear78 about the PPH earlier (like yesterday or the day before), as I thought it would be a viable option. I was saying that the PPH is only slightly cheaper than the DLH. Sometimes it's a matter of a $40 or $50 difference per night, which is not that significant (compared to the difference in price between the GCH and the DLH or PPH). But for 7 days, it might be worth it to bring the cost down a little bit. It's better than nothing if you want to stay onsite. And the PPH standard rooms are usually a good size.
 
As far as calling and asking them questions, I haven't called yet. I didn't know if they were open today or not with it being a Sunday. Plus, I don't really like doing "bussiness" on a Sunday. I will be calling them tomorrow to get everything hashed out and making sure that things are taken care of. I will be asking about the meal vouchers, downgrading to a cheaper hotel (like you said Sherry even if it is just for a portion of the stay we are onsite, it will still be amazing. Will be a pain to move several times, but hey anything to be able to get there)

I will let everyone know tomorrow what I find out. I will be calling first thing in the morning. I am going to try and teach a scrapbooking class this year as well to see if I can come up with more money. I taught a scrapbooking class for 3-5 graders last year and did pretty good with it. I figure if I can do it again this year, I can make over half of what I need in the first 2 sessions....so that is going to be something I am trying to get accomplished.
 
As far as calling and asking them questions, I haven't called yet. I didn't know if they were open today or not with it being a Sunday. Plus, I don't really like doing "bussiness" on a Sunday. I will be calling them tomorrow to get everything hashed out and making sure that things are taken care of. I will be asking about the meal vouchers, downgrading to a cheaper hotel (like you said Sherry even if it is just for a portion of the stay we are onsite, it will still be amazing. Will be a pain to move several times, but hey anything to be able to get there)

I will let everyone know tomorrow what I find out. I will be calling first thing in the morning. I am going to try and teach a scrapbooking class this year as well to see if I can come up with more money. I taught a scrapbooking class for 3-5 graders last year and did pretty good with it. I figure if I can do it again this year, I can make over half of what I need in the first 2 sessions....so that is going to be something I am trying to get accomplished.

And when you call them tomorrow, ask them if they have you booked as a package - that's super important to know!

I think there are a few options you have now. You could:

1. Keep the existing reservation at the DLH - no drop in price.
2. You could switch to the PPH for the whole stay and shave off a little bit of money
3. You could do half and half - half of the stay at the DLH and half of it at the PPH. That will cut costs only minimally.
4. You could do half of the stay at the PPH or DLH and half of it at a Good Neighbor hotel across the street. That would be a pretty good price drop from the existing reservation.
5. You could stay at a Good Neighbor hotel for the entire stay and bring the hotel bill down tremendously.

There are lots of ways to make this work and shave off some $$$ here and there. As I suggested yesterday, if you didn't have the dining vouchers you could also limit the number of table service restaurants you eat at in DLR. You could do mostly counter service and then just a couple of table service meals. Lots of folks on this board share meals - they buy one or two things at any number of places and share them with the whole family. You could eat off-property, but that would probably be a pain to have to keep leaving DLR to go offsite to eat. Still, for a long stay such as yours, you may want to consider it. You could also order groceries from Vons online and have some snacks and drinks to keep in the hotel room.

In any case, hopefully your family's money-raising efforts will pay off - literally - for this special trip!! I am sending positive vibes and luck your way!:goodvibes:goodvibes:santa:
 

I had explained to Scrappinbrear78 about the PPH earlier (like yesterday or the day before), as I thought it would be a viable option. I was saying that the PPH is only slightly cheaper than the DLH. Sometimes it's a matter of a $40 or $50 difference per night, which is not that significant (compared to the difference in price between the GCH and the DLH or PPH). But for 7 days, it might be worth it to bring the cost down a little bit. It's better than nothing if you want to stay onsite. And the PPH standard rooms are usually a good size.

Yes, I saw that. I was also making the suggestion.
 
As far as calling and asking them questions, I haven't called yet. I didn't know if they were open today or not with it being a Sunday. Plus, I don't really like doing "bussiness" on a Sunday. I will be calling them tomorrow to get everything hashed out and making sure that things are taken care of. I will be asking about the meal vouchers, downgrading to a cheaper hotel (like you said Sherry even if it is just for a portion of the stay we are onsite, it will still be amazing. Will be a pain to move several times, but hey anything to be able to get there)

I will let everyone know tomorrow what I find out. I will be calling first thing in the morning. I am going to try and teach a scrapbooking class this year as well to see if I can come up with more money. I taught a scrapbooking class for 3-5 graders last year and did pretty good with it. I figure if I can do it again this year, I can make over half of what I need in the first 2 sessions....so that is going to be something I am trying to get accomplished.

Oh, I forgot to comment in my earlier post - how fun & rewarding to be able to teach a scrapbooking class to kids!! It sounds as though you really love scrapbooking, and I bet the kids really loved it too (if they are creative and artistic, as so many kids are). So not only is it something that could earn you extra pocket change, but it's something that pays off in a couple of different ways. I hope you're able to do it again - even just for a couple of different sessions.
 
Since scrappingbear booked through Disney, shouldn't she be able to call and get a price adjustment if the Hotel deals come out soon? Couldn't they apply the discount? We haven't had a year yet without a deal of some sort, that I can remember.
 
Since scrappingbear booked through Disney, shouldn't she be able to call and get a price adjustment if the Hotel deals come out soon? Couldn't they apply the discount? We haven't had a year yet without a deal of some sort, that I can remember.

Her dad booked the reservation. The thing is, they aren't sure if they will be able to stay onsite at all, I think. So to keep this reservation intact in hopes that there is some kind of a hotel deal in December might be taking a gamble at missing out on an off-property hotel.

The discount/deal thing is tricky. There are usually no hotel deals that extend past mid-December, as the second half of December is when the crowds really pick up at DLR and they make a ton of money. But the mid-point cut off date could be 12/15 or 12/17 or 12/19 - it's hard to say. I have seen deals end on the 15th, the 17th and the 19th in previous years!! Sometimes there might be a PIN code offer floating around that extends until mid-Dec. and there are usually AP rates that extend until that time. But once mid-December hits, or possibly up to the weekend right before Christmas, it is unlikely that there will be any non-Annual Pass discounts because the last two weeks of December are DLR's busiest time, and that's where they make lots of money!! Going to DLR over Christmas is basically going at peak season, so hotels cost more and character meals cost more!!

Also, IF this is a Walt Disney Travel Co. Disney "package" of some kind - and reservations can be tricky like that in that they don't seem like packages but sometimes they are (if they include anything extra at all besides just a hotel room), and the Walt Disney Travel Co. operates along side the regular reservations CM's - then to make any kind of adjustment will mean a fee. Only if Scrappinbear78 and family have a "Room Only" reservation through Central Reservations can they make adjustments to the reservation without a fee.

I have made changes to reservations in the past when I booked through Central - I changed hotels from GCH to PPH, I changed my dates to one week earlier, I added on an extra night to my existing reservation and I changed the discount I was using to get the better deal - but this was all through Room Only. I have also had packages through the WDTC - and they literally are right next to the people in Room Only - and when I had to make a change or a cancellation, I was penalized for it.

That's why it is super important to double check with whomever it is on the phone at DLR to be sure it is not considered a package of any kind before making changes. Then, once that's squared away it's easier to proceed.
 
If it is a package deal through WDTC, I checked the cancel/change fees and found the following:

LAND CHANGE/CANCELLATION FEES & REFUNDS: Once deposit has been paid, a fee is assessed each time a change or cancellation is made. The cancellation/change fees are per reservation and are as follows:
Days prior to arrival ...............Change.........................Cancel
31 Days or More.............................$0..............................$100
30 Days or Less.............................$50.............................$200

Another thing you might consider, scrapinnbear, is canceling the meal vouchers and putting that money on a Disney Gift Card. I have never personally used the meal vouchers but have heard that it is not as good a deal as doing it at WDW. You have to be careful how you use the vouchers - if your total is $8, and you give them a $10 voucher, you don't get change and you are locked into certain places for dining. With a gift card, you can go anywhere in DLR including DTD. You could also bring some food and snacks on the train to have in your room - especially breakfast items. You will have a mini fridge in the room to store some cold items. And definitely bring some water - it is way too expensive in the park. If that is too much to bring on the train, you can order online from vons.com and have it delivered. Someone would need to be there to sign as neither the DLH or PPH will sign for you (the GCH does it because they have the timeshare villas and are set up to store cold food).

There are ways to cut down on expenses but still have a wonderful time. I am sure others will keep posting their great ideas.

I do agree with Sherry that hoping for some sort of discount or deal at the DLR hotels during the Christmas week is probably a long shot. As she said, it is one of the busiest times at the resort. So you should probably figure out the hotel situation first. And if you do change to the PPH, it is also beautifully decorated at Christmas - all three hotels are! And the Santas at each hotel look like the real thing!

Good luck and keep us posted.
 
If it is a package deal through WDTC, I checked the cancel/change fees and found the following:

LAND CHANGE/CANCELLATION FEES & REFUNDS: Once deposit has been paid, a fee is assessed each time a change or cancellation is made. The cancellation/change fees are per reservation and are as follows:
Days prior to arrival ...............Change.........................Cancel
31 Days or More.............................$0..............................$100
30 Days or Less.............................$50.............................$200

Another thing you might consider, scrapinnbear, is canceling the meal vouchers and putting that money on a Disney Gift Card. I have never personally used the meal vouchers but have heard that it is not as good a deal as doing it at WDW. You have to be careful how you use the vouchers - if your total is $8, and you give them a $10 voucher, you don't get change and you are locked into certain places for dining. With a gift card, you can go anywhere in DLR including DTD. You could also bring some food and snacks on the train to have in your room - especially breakfast items. You will have a mini fridge in the room to store some cold items. And definitely bring some water - it is way too expensive in the park. If that is too much to bring on the train, you can order online from vons.com and have it delivered. Someone would need to be there to sign as neither the DLH or PPH will sign for you (the GCH does it because they have the timeshare villas and are set up to store cold food).

There are ways to cut down on expenses but still have a wonderful time. I am sure others will keep posting their great ideas.

I do agree with Sherry that hoping for some sort of discount or deal at the DLR hotels during the Christmas week is probably a long shot. As she said, it is one of the busiest times at the resort. So you should probably figure out the hotel situation first. And if you do change to the PPH, it is also beautifully decorated at Christmas - all three hotels are! And the Santas at each hotel look like the real thing!

Good luck and keep us posted.

Do you agree that the PPH tree in the main lobby is actually prettier than the GCH tree? I know many people feel that way. I hadn't thought much about it before now but I think, visually, the colors and lights on the PPH tree are more appealing, although the GCH tree's theme and colors are so fitting with the whole elegantly rustic theme of the GCH. I am torn - I like the whole cozy look and vibe of the GCH during the season, but there are certain things that are prettier in the other two hotels. The DLH used to have a great tree, too, but I didn't look at it last year to see if it was the same as the one I remembered.
 
Do you agree that the PPH tree in the main lobby is actually prettier than the GCH tree? I know many people feel that way. I hadn't thought much about it before now but I think, visually, the colors and lights on the PPH tree are more appealing, although the GCH tree's theme and colors are so fitting with the whole elegantly rustic theme of the GCH. I am torn - I like the whole cozy look and vibe of the GCH during the season, but there are certain things that are prettier in the other two hotels. The DLH used to have a great tree, too, but I didn't look at it last year to see if it was the same as the one I remembered.

I'm like you, I think they all fit the theme of the hotel they are in. The PPH tree is more whimsical! But you can't go wrong at any DLR at Christmas - or even offsite for that matter! It is truly the most magically time to go!
 
I guess one final question before I call tomorrow would be about special promotions. So if I am understanding what you guys have said, there aren't any specials for the middle to end of December? We were in hopes that because we were spending so much that there would be some sort of discount, upgrade or something...I guess it isn't true. Even if there aren't discounts or upgrades I completly understand. The only reason I would keep the vouchers would be for the assurance knowing that we have the meals already paid for and taken care of. I would be so worried that we drop the meal vouchers and then get to the point of going and have no money for food...then we are stuck. I will definately do the whole vons thing and order groceries to be delivered. We will take some things with us, but then order to have things in the room as well. A little over 3 years ago we were homeless and lived in a hotel, so we are really good at doing meals in a hotel. Not that I would want to do that for all the meals down there...but I will definately look into for at least breakfast. I am thinking that I will pick up things for a breakfast and snack items to have in the hotel...that will help a lot. We will do a Character breakfast and that will be it...the rest will be in the room. If we do that, then I know it will be less of a burden. Thank you so much for the tips. I am going to look into the Gift cards though because they sell them in our Safeway and with both kids birthdays coming up, I will just tell everyone that wants to get them a gift to get them a gift card that can be used at DL. :love:
 
It never hurts to ask about promotions but there aren't any currently for peak Christmas season. On the meal vouchers, I was actually suggesting that whatever money you have paid for the vouchers, see if they can put that as a Gift card instead - you would still have the same dollar amount just a lot more flexibility.

Let us know what happens tomorrow.
 
I guess one final question before I call tomorrow would be about special promotions. So if I am understanding what you guys have said, there aren't any specials for the middle to end of December? We were in hopes that because we were spending so much that there would be some sort of discount, upgrade or something...I guess it isn't true. Even if there aren't discounts or upgrades I completly understand. The only reason I would keep the vouchers would be for the assurance knowing that we have the meals already paid for and taken care of. I would be so worried that we drop the meal vouchers and then get to the point of going and have no money for food...then we are stuck. I will definately do the whole vons thing and order groceries to be delivered. We will take some things with us, but then order to have things in the room as well. A little over 3 years ago we were homeless and lived in a hotel, so we are really good at doing meals in a hotel. Not that I would want to do that for all the meals down there...but I will definately look into for at least breakfast. I am thinking that I will pick up things for a breakfast and snack items to have in the hotel...that will help a lot. We will do a Character breakfast and that will be it...the rest will be in the room. If we do that, then I know it will be less of a burden. Thank you so much for the tips. I am going to look into the Gift cards though because they sell them in our Safeway and with both kids birthdays coming up, I will just tell everyone that wants to get them a gift to get them a gift card that can be used at DL. :love:

Well, the upgrades are separate from any discounts on rooms. The upgrades from one type of room to another may not happen until you actually arrive at the hotel in question. Sometimes the upgrades are total surprises to the guests checking in, but they are not guaranteed. Even if you request an upgrade and pay for it, it's not guaranteed. It's more of a 'luck of the draw' sort of thing. And again, in December, it could be tricky.

Discounts on DLR hotel rooms are often offered a few months in advance - sometimes by exclusive e-mail offer and sometimes on the Disneyland website. I don't know if there are any current discounts available that extend to mid-December. If not, there may be some coming out soon. But I would not count on any discounts being available past the mid-point of December.

The Vons thing was something I just thought of for you earlier this morning - I hadn't thought of it yesterday, but it suddenly dawned on me that you would be at DLR for a full week, so it wouldn't hurt to have some groceries delivered (especially water, like sierranevada suggested) to cut down on meal costs. They deliver all kinds of things - toiletries, medicine, baked goods and cakes, liquor (as long as an adult is there to sign for it), meats, snacks, flowers - everything. But we will cross that bridge later, when we find out which hotel you will be staying at!!

However, that said, I totally understand if you want to keep the meal vouchers just to have that portion of the plan paid for and out of the way. It is one area that you would not have to think about or worry about if it's paid for in advance. Although, as PHXscuba and sierranevada suggested, gift cards would not be a bad idea, either, and you can do many things with them.

I would do this if I were you:

First, check with the Disney people and see if what your dad booked at the DLH is considered any kind of "package." This will let you know if you have any leeway to make changes to the reservation, and in what amount of time, without a fee.

Then, once you have that squared away, find out what the price will be for the same amount of time/length of stay at the PPH.

If the PPH stay sounds too lofty - or if the difference between the PPH and DLH prices is not that drastic - then look into staying offsite at one of the hotels across the street, such as Best Western or Desert Inn & Suites. I think the Tropicana is pretty close too.

Actually, you can even book a room at one of the offsite hotels and not have to put down a deposit (at least, that's the case for many of them). If you can get a room booked at one of the Good Neighbor hotels that does not require a deposit up front, book it and hang on to that reservation until you know for sure what you are doing with the Disney reservation.

Meanwhile, assuming you will not be charged to make changes to your DLH reservation, you can keep that one active too - at the same time that you have the Good Neighbor hotel reservation - until you decide for sure if you can keep it or if you need to switch to PPH or cancel the Disney hotel idea altogether.

The idea is to have a back-up reservation at a Good Neighbor hotel that will not cost you a cent until you arrive (unless you choose to pay it in advance), while the current DLH reservation is intact. This way, you're covered either way while you figure out where exactly you are staying. If you wait too long to book a Good Neighbor, you may find that the dates you want are sold out. The fact of the matter is that more and more people are staying off-property and the Good Neighbors are likely to book up in advance because of the great prices. But you want to be able to have an off-property hotel as a back-up in case you have to ditch the Disney reservation.
 
Scrappinbear78,
First off,(((Big Hugs))), I am hoping you will be able to make
this happen. I have a few suggestions, (I hope you don't mind).
If you do split your stay to Off property and on propery, do the
off property the first part, and save the On property for the
last part of your stay. Great idea of ordering food from Vons which
is Safeway in AZ.
You can check them out online, and even order gift cards and then
you can pay for that with a gift card. Disney gift cards are also
sold at Walgreens too.
When you call, let them know if anyone is wheelchair bound.
On the Disney site, they have Christmas stocking on clearance 3.99
each. There is the Mickey Mouse, which I orded when it was 4.99
and it is beautiful! Fill it with neat items you find on clearance
when you go shopping, or order online.
They have Sleeping Beauty and Cars too.
Bringing your food for breakfast and snacks helps a lot.
At www.restaurant.com you can order coupons for House of Blues
that can be used for one meal. There are a few sites online to earn
points or $$$ that do add up like swagbucks, mypoints, winster to
name a few.
Plus there are sites like KGB and ChaCha
people work to make $$$ online.
You mentioned family giving gift cards for Bdays, there is a Lego
store in DTD that you kids may like. They do put items on sale there.
You can tell them on the last day, they will be able to purchase
their toy and go in there a few times to see what they want.
This way, it may cut down the kids asking for everything, and you
can concentrate on having a great time! Your kids may surprise you
and not ask for much.
Good Luck with your call tomorrow!
 
Hi Scrappinbear78,

I've been following your dilemma for a little bit now, and I just wanted to say that I hope everything works out for and your family.

I can't comment on the Disney Hotels, as everyone has that well covered. I do agree with azdisneylover that if you do stay off property, do that first and save the Disney hotel for the last part.

One comment on the meal vouchers...they are very restrictive on where you can eat, most places in Downtown Disney are NOT included. Also you don't get change. So if your voucher is $20 and your bill is $18 then you lose $2. At least that was how it was explained to me. What we have done for our trip is take the money we were going to use for the food vouchers and put it on Disney Gift Cards. I've written FOOD on the gift cards with a sharpie and they will be kept in a ziplock baggie in my bag. I'll probably put a small notebook and pencil in, so we can keep track of our spending and balance.

I think I'll probably get a few cards in smaller denominations rather than one big card. That way once I get to the hotel I'll leave the bulk of the cards in the room safe and take what we need for the day (then we can't lose them all at once).
 
Hi Scrappinbear78,

I've been following your dilemma for a little bit now, and I just wanted to say that I hope everything works out for and your family.

I can't comment on the Disney Hotels, as everyone has that well covered. I do agree with azdisneylover that if you do stay off property, do that first and save the Disney hotel for the last part.

One comment on the meal vouchers...they are very restrictive on where you can eat, most places in Downtown Disney are NOT included. Also you don't get change. So if your voucher is $20 and your bill is $18 then you lose $2. At least that was how it was explained to me. What we have done for our trip is take the money we were going to use for the food vouchers and put it on Disney Gift Cards. I've written FOOD on the gift cards with a sharpie and they will be kept in a ziplock baggie in my bag. I'll probably put a small notebook and pencil in, so we can keep track of our spending and balance.

I think I'll probably get a few cards in smaller denominations rather than one big card. That way once I get to the hotel I'll leave the bulk of the cards in the room safe and take what we need for the day (then we can't lose them all at once).

Believe it or not, this is what I've been doing too - getting a few gift cards in smaller denominations. In fact, I'm about to get another couple of them through different sources. First of all, it's a great way for me to set money aside and make sure it is going for a DLR trip, one way or the other. I don't trust myself to just set actual money aside and not spend it. Initially I was reluctant to get smaller denomination cards because I thought it would be a huge pain if I end up using them, for example, to make a hotel reservation and I have to give the CM on the phone 6 different card numbers!!:rotfl2: But it's good to have at least a couple of them in small amounts, and then maybe one or two in larger amounts (if possible).

The gift cards are really so flexible - they can be used for dining, for merchandise, for hotel bookings, online, to buy tickets or AP's, etc.
 
I have hear of this before and the more I think about it, it sounds like a great idea. I just might try the gift cards myself.
 
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