Disney 65 episode rule

[chrispetitioner]

I have already posted it. look on page 1 or 2

when exactly are you going to post your petition? you said after 10 posts..

 

[reminisce]

oh. whoops, guess i missed it




sorry, i would consider signing but its asking for information i dont feel comfortable giving out over the internet.

 

[DramaQueen]

The Guideline to produce only sixty five episodes of any Disney Channel program was conceived and enacted during the earliest days of Michael Eisner’s leadership as a way to produce a large quantity of material in a relatively short period of time for a channel that would broadcast only first party material. For reasons unknown, said guideline was immediately enforced as if it were policy. Later it become actual policy.

The sixty five episode rule as it will be referred to hereafter, was originally meant to be discontinued after there would be enough filler material for Disney Channel to allow focus on investing in high rated programs. The sixty five episode rule accomplished it’s goal shortly after the cancellation of the Disney Channel program Darkwing Duck in 1992. For reasons unknown, the sixty five episode rule has been kept not only beyond that timeline, but throughout Michael Eisner’s leadership as CEO of Disney, and even continues to this day.

Intelligent business practice would be to invest in and market programs that receive the highest ratings, and to continue to do until such time as said programs are no longer profitable. I believe to do otherwise is not only anti-creative, hurting fans, but anti-business, hurting you. The sixty five episode policy was useful until the time of around 1992, after which it became self destructive, a fact which has not changed with the passing of time.

Again, I totally disagree, I mean, obviously Disney is doing just fine as a business, they are a very smart business and they know what's working & what's not.

It's very understandable that they would want to get new stuff out there all the time, therefore having to get rid of some of the old stuff.

I still don't see how this is anti-creative (and/or hurting fans?) everything on the Disney Channel (cancelled or not cancelled) has been highly creative and original. And I don't find it hurtful when they cancel programs that I enjoy, if I really enjoyed watching them, I don't mind watching repeats.
Which is why I have Boy Meets World on DVD

I'm reading the description on the website that you posted earlier right now and I think alot of it is quite overdramatic and frankly, very opinion based.

If Disney WERE to stop this rule and bring back old cartoons, like Goof Troup for example, it would not be the same and people would continue to complain even further. So I see no sense in trying to stop Disney in doing what seems to be working very well for not only them, but for most of their viewing audience.

And the thing about Greed? I don't really know if it's a greed thing, just a profit thing, any business would do what would be most profitable for them, it's not greed, it's just business.

 

[chrispetitioner]

You don't need to give any info, all you need is email and first name, the email adress will not be given out

oh. whoops, guess i missed it




sorry, i would sign but its asking for information i dont feel comfortable giving out over the internet.

 

[CastawayJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhJK....com/videosearch?q=so+wierd&hl=en&sitesearch=

this ep is website
fi gets e-mails from the future

 

[CastawayJ]

your link?


i did, and i posted a comment about it, as well--basically that i found it mildly disturbing (no offense!)

all 3 parts?

 

[reminisce]

You don't need to give any info, all you need is email and first name, the email adress will not be given out

it was asking me for my address, as well

 

[chrispetitioner]

you can skip that!

it was asking me for my address, as well

 

[reminisce]

it said you couldnt when i tried skipping it. sorry

 

[Axel]

Hate to burst your bubble, but I looked up some stuff on my own.

Kim Possible: 87 episodes
That's So Raven: 100 episodes
In A Heartbeat: 21 episodes
Bug Juice: 60 episodes (to the best of my knowledge)
Totally Circus: 14 episodes
The Proud Family: 53 episodes
Totally Hoops: 16 episodes
Totally In Tune: 10 episodes
Dave the Barbarian: 22 episodes
Phil of the Future: 43 episodes
Brandy & Mr. Whiskers: 39 episodes
American Dragon: Jake Long: 52 episodes
The Suite Life of Zach and Cody: 88 episodes
The Buzz on Maggie: 21 episodes

None of those fall into the "65 episode rule" category. I'd say that any show with 20 episodes or less just wasn't popular and with more than 70 episodes, it probably ran it's course as a kid's/young teen's show. Anywhere inbetween, well, they probably got boring fast. Yes, there are several shows on that list cancelled at 65, but that's a pretty reasonable mark for a lot of shows these days. It's a big accomplishment to make 100 shows and an even bigger one to reach 200. 65 episodes is usually the base contract and producers and channels decide from there whether to produce more. It's all about ratings these days.

 

[chrispetitioner]

Well, I've re-looked and:

The best way to learn more is to also look at www.savedisneyshows.org/

Hate to burst your bubble, but I looked up some stuff on my own.

Kim Possible: 87 episodes
That's So Raven: 100 episodes
In A Heartbeat: 21 episodes
Bug Juice: 60 episodes (to the best of my knowledge)
Totally Circus: 14 episodes
The Proud Family: 53 episodes
Totally Hoops: 16 episodes
Totally In Tune: 10 episodes
Dave the Barbarian: 22 episodes
Phil of the Future: 43 episodes
Brandy & Mr. Whiskers: 39 episodes
American Dragon: Jake Long: 52 episodes
The Suite Life of Zach and Cody: 88 episodes
The Buzz on Maggie: 21 episodes

None of those fall into the "65 episode rule" category. I'd say that any show with 20 episodes or less just wasn't popular and with more than 70 episodes, it probably ran it's course as a kid's/young teen's show. Anywhere inbetween, well, they probably got boring fast. Yes, there are several shows on that list cancelled at 65, but that's a pretty reasonable mark for a lot of shows these days. It's a big accomplishment to make 100 shows and an even bigger one to reach 200.

 

[chrispetitioner]

Have u signed the other two?

it said you couldnt when i tried skipping it. sorry

 

[STOPxmickeytime]

Hate to burst your bubble, but I looked up some stuff on my own.

Kim Possible: 87 episodes
That's So Raven: 100 episodes
In A Heartbeat: 21 episodes
Bug Juice: 60 episodes (to the best of my knowledge)
Totally Circus: 14 episodes
The Proud Family: 53 episodes
Totally Hoops: 16 episodes
Totally In Tune: 10 episodes
Dave the Barbarian: 22 episodes
Phil of the Future: 43 episodes
Brandy & Mr. Whiskers: 39 episodes
American Dragon: Jake Long: 52 episodes
The Suite Life of Zach and Cody: 88 episodes
The Buzz on Maggie: 21 episodes

None of those fall into the "65 episode rule" category. I'd say that any show with 20 episodes or less just wasn't popular and with more than 70 episodes, it probably ran it's course as a kid's/young teen's show. Anywhere inbetween, well, they probably got boring fast. Yes, there are several shows on that list cancelled at 65, but that's a pretty reasonable mark for a lot of shows these days. It's a big accomplishment to make 100 shows and an even bigger one to reach 200. 65 episodes is usually the base contract and producers and channels decide from there whether to produce more. It's all about ratings these days.

THANK YOU.
I knew those facts were wrong.

I don't think there's anything "anti-creative" about giving a rough estimate of a show running its course around 65 episodes.
And I don't think there's anything wrong with a business wanting to make money. Disney is, first and foremost to the leaders in charge, a business. Of course they're out to make a profit, if they weren't the company would crumble.

 

[chrispetitioner]

it is normally 65 episodes but if there are a lot of fans complaining they sometimes exstend the show. the facts are not wrong

THANK YOU.
I knew those facts were wrong.

I don't think there's anything "anti-creative" about giving a rough estimate of a show running its course around 65 episodes.
And I don't think there's anything wrong with a business wanting to make money. Disney is, first and foremost to the leaders in charge, a business. Of course they're out to make a profit, if they weren't the company would crumble.

 

[Cinderelli16]

cancelled shows by the disney 65 episode rule are as followed:

The Famous Jett Jackson (1998-2001)
Bug Juice (1998-2001)
So Weird (1999-2001)
The Jersey (1999-2003)
Even Stevens (2000-2003)
In a Heartbeat (2000-2001)
Totally Circus (2000)
Lizzie McGuire (2001-2004)
The Proud Family (2001-2005)
Totally Hoops (2001)
Kim Possible (2002-2007)
Totally in Tune (2002)
That's So Raven (2003-2007)
Lilo & Stitch: The Series (2003-2006)
Dave the Barbarian (2004-2005)
Phil of the Future (2004-2006)
Brandy & Mr. Whiskers (2004-2006)
American Dragon: Jake Long (2005-2007)
The Suite Life of Zack & Cody (2005-2008)
The Buzz on Maggie (2005-2006)

I loved these shows! And wait when did The Suite Life get cancelled?

 

[chrispetitioner]

Disney Channel Original Series, the suite life premiered on March 18, 2005, and will end its successful run on August 29, 2008.

 

[marypops!]

I'm pretty sure Phil of the Future ended because it was too expensive with all the special effects. Too bad, since it's one of my favourite shows. Doesn't have the laugh track on.

The ones that didn't make 65 episodes weren't too popular (but I liked Dave the Barbarian. They says it's been put on hiatus...)

I hate the Suite Life so i'm glad that's ending. Too bad it has a spin off soon...

I read that Cory in the House might be cancelled soon. That's cool.

 

[Cinderelli16]

I'm pretty sure Phil of the Future ended because it was too expensive with all the special effects. Too bad, since it's one of my favourite shows. Doesn't have the laugh track on.

The ones that didn't make 65 episodes weren't too popular (but I liked Dave the Barbarian. They says it's been put on hiatus...)

I hate the Suite Life so i'm glad that's ending. Too bad it has a spin off soon...

I read that Cory in the House might be cancelled soon. That's cool.

I can not stand Cory in the House! They play the same shows over and over. But I'd have to disagree with you on the Suite Life, I love that show, or well soon to be loved

 

[reminisce]

i personally dont really see what the big deal is. in fact, i think the rule is smart, especially if they make so many exceptions.

 

[DramaQueen]

i personally dont really see what the big deal is. in fact, i think the rule is smart, especially if they make so many exceptions.

I don't even think this 'rule' exists, as Axel pointed out, most of the shows listed have far more/less than 65 episodes.