Disney’s Lakeshore Lodge Coming to former Reflections Site in 2027!

My concern is losing the Fort buildings in the rethemeing process as well as the atmosphere and heart of the Fort itself. LL towers over the Fort and changes the atmosphere, not in a good way. It sickens me.
Why that location for LL? Why not on the other side of the Fort where there appears to be empty shoreline??
 
Why are they building a hotel at a campground??? They already have the "cabins" that are available for rent. Staying in a resort/hotel room isn't even close to a camping experience. Besides money, does anyone have a logical explanation?
Let me preface this by saying I'm very sad about the location of the new lodge, crowding Pioneer Hall and the Tavern, cabins taking over the lakefront.

But I can say also that many of the national parks have both campgrounds and lodges. When we were kids camping with our family in Yosemite and Yellowstone, we used to talk wistfully about and wish to be the "pampered people in the Lodge." But the folks who built those lodges didn't back them up to the campgrounds - there's significant distance between the two types of lodging, and I wish Disney had done the same.
 
I really hope they have plans to build a new boat dock at the Fort with expanded capacity. Even though the LL will have its own dock, all the folks staying in the Clementine's beach cabins and those in the rooms overlooking Pioneer Hall will go to the closest dock which will be the Fort dock.

My concern is losing the Fort buildings in the rethemeing process as well as the atmosphere and heart of the Fort itself. LL towers over the Fort and changes the atmosphere, not in a good way. It sickens me.
Why that location for LL? Why not on the other side of the Fort where there appears to be empty shoreline??
I've said since construction started and saw how close this monstrosity is to Pioneer Hall, the Fort is probably going to lose the Settlement area, the powers that be at Disney don't seem to care how much they cannibalize from the Fort, after all, we are "poor", lowly campers.
 

Why that location for LL? Why not on the other side of the Fort where there appears to be empty shoreline??
Simply to reuse the old River Country site. They are landlocked by the canal at Swam Trail to the east. The canal is part of the Water management district, and there are many restrictions.

They are just replicating the same model they used for the Island Tower at the Polynesian. Put the large ugly tower right next to existing facilities, and not dramatically expanding guest infrastructure. The made the Island Tower part of the existing DVC. Same thing at the Fort. Connecting LL with the new DVC Cabins into a single DVC.

Dave
 
Simply to reuse the old River Country site. They are landlocked by the canal at Swam Trail to the east. The canal is part of the Water management district, and there are many restrictions.

They are just replicating the same model they used for the Island Tower at the Polynesian. Put the large ugly tower right next to existing facilities, and not dramatically expanding guest infrastructure. The made the Island Tower part of the existing DVC. Same thing at the Fort. Connecting LL with the new DVC Cabins into a single DVC.

Dave
Sad but true.
 
Tent-Shaped A-Frame Waterfront Cabin Installation Underway at Disney Lakeshore Lodge

Disney has previously filed a permit for 14 cabins, split to either side of the sprawling Lakeshore Lodge hotel. Back when the property was named Reflections – A Disney Lakeside Lodge, Disney announced a mixture of these A-frame cabins and treehouse-style cabins.

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Disney Lakeshore Lodge Reaches Nine Stories, Another A-Shaped Structure In Progress at Walt Disney World


Crews have been constructing exterior and interior walls of the hotel, then layering weather-proof sheathing over the steel frames. Over some of the sheathing is a yellow air and water barrier.

A construction site with a large building, trees in front, and a truck kicking up dust near a body of water.
Construction work was kicking up a lot of dust in this area between a U-shaped section of the hotel. It wasn’t clear what work was causing the dust.


A multi-story building under construction with scaffolding, cranes, and cloudy sky in the background.
A series of half-completed walls and columns on the top of the building are the beginnings of the next floor.

Mid-rise building under construction with cranes, seen across a body of water, and trees in the foreground.

Work has begun on the eighth story at this end of the building. Construction permits indicate the building will be 10 stories when completed.

A multi-story building under construction with exposed framing, windows, and yellow insulation panels.
The openings in the walls are for windows and sliding glass doors. The windows that don’t overlook balconies have temporary beams across them to protect crew members. The balconies have temporary wooden railings.


A yellow crane labeled FLOATMASTER on a barge by a river, with a building under construction in the background.
There are several cranes on the construction site, transporting materials and equipment. One crane sits on a Floatmaster barge in the water. Yellow barriers in the water keep stray equipment and debris from floating too far out into the lagoon.

Disney Lakeshore Lodge is under construction near a lake, with trees, equipment, and portable toilets in front.

Most of the building is still exposed to the elements. It will still be several months before it’s completely enclosed.

A multi-story Disney hotel under construction with workers, scaffolding, and a large red crane in front.

We saw crew members working on this block of future rooms. The first floor has a full wall with a small opening.

A multi-story Disney Lakeshore Lodge under construction, surrounded by trees and green foliage in the foreground.
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Windows & Additional A-Frame Cabins Added to Disney Lakeshore Lodge at Walt Disney World

From the golf cart parking lot of Pioneer Hall, several cranes and more construction work interrupts the sight lines of the building.

A multi-story Lakeshore Lodge under construction with scaffolding, crane, and cloudy sky, behind a green fence.

At the section of construction near Daniel Boone’s Wilderness Arcade, windows have been installed on the second floor.

Scaffolding covers a yellow Lodge Construction building, with trees and a green printed barrier in the foreground.Lakeshore Lodge Construction: A building under construction with scaffolding, yellow insulation, and a green fence with tree graphics.
Behind scaffolding, we could see the newly-installed windows. This is the only floor with any windows or the sliding glass doors that will be added to overlook potential balconies.

A construction site for Lakeshore Lodge behind a leafy fence, with trees, grass, and a cloudy sky in the background.

As we reported in May, an A-frame cabin structure was installed on the beach near Disney Lakeshore Lodge. Now, three of the same cabins have been added to either side of the new building.

Close-up of metal beams and structures by Lakeshore Construction, with green trees and a cloudy sky in the background.Metal scaffolding near a calm lake hints at ongoing lakeshore lodge construction under a cloudy sky and trees.
All of the cabins now have a horizontal pole across the top of their vertical triangular frames, and framework for doorways appears to have been added to those nearest Clementine Beach.


A projected image shows Lakeshore Lodge Construction’s A-frame houses by a lake, trees reflecting in dusk water.Lakeshore Lodge Construction: A hotel rises with cranes and steel framing near the water on a partly cloudy day.
In previous concept art for the resort when it was still called Reflections – A Disney Lakeside Lodge, there were A-frame cabins shown outside the main hotel building. It appears that these cabins have remained a part of the plan for Disney Lakeshore Lodge, as the current structures look very similar to this art.


Lakeshore Lodge Construction: A multi-story building rising, with scaffolding, cranes, and construction vehicles on site.
At the building’s tallest points, construction has begun on a ninth floor. While permits do suggest the tallest building will be 10 stories high, we do not know if all of the buildings will reach that height or if the wings will be tiered to a lower level.

Lakeshore Lodge under construction by a lake, with scaffolding, cranes, and materials onsite.

We saw crew members working on top levels of the side nearest to Bay Lake. Lots of trucks, equipment, and dirt are also still present in the area, as there is still much work to be done.

A yellow FLOATMASTER crane sits on a barge at a Lakeshore Lodge construction site by the lake.
Crews have been constructing the exterior and interior walls of the hotel, then layering weather-proof sheathing over the steel frames. Over some of the sheathing is a yellow air and water barrier, which we also expect to see on some of the upper floors in the future.

Cranes and a building under Lakeshore Construction are visible across a body of water with trees and clouds in the background.A crane lifts materials at a Lakeshore Construction site with trees and buildings in the background.

There are several cranes still present on the construction site for transporting materials and equipment. We caught one of them moving a stack of material near one of the resort’s wings.

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Simply to reuse the old River Country site. They are landlocked by the canal at Swam Trail to the east. The canal is part of the Water management district, and there are many restrictions.

This is simply inaccurate.

Yes, they reused the River Country site.

But what else did they TAKE (because they could) or "reuse"?

They took the Mickey's Backyard BBQ Pavilion which was behind Pioneer Hall/Trails End and in front of the old RC property.

They also took the ORIGINAL Tri-Circle-D Ranch and associated out-buildings (don't be afraid to go find them) and made them rebuild across Wilderness Road.

Finally, they took Clementine's Beach (which hosted the fireworks recliners and fishing excursions from those dock) and are in the process of plunking down some ugly A-frame cabins.

Dave, seriously dude, you need to update your narrative that the ugly DVC resort took MORE than just RC. Sadly, it is what it is.

Ed

PS - don't thank me for helping your story, please, it is all in a day's work for us campers. :rolleyes: No hopium or copium for me.
 
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Simply to reuse the old River Country site. They are landlocked by the canal at Swam Trail to the east. The canal is part of the Water management district, and there are many restrictions.

This is simply inaccurate.

Yes, they reused the River Country site.
Try reading my comment again. The entirety of FW if indeed landlocked to the East by the WMD Canal. I made no comments on additional FW resources that were impacted by this Ugly DVC building. Yes Disney could have done a clean slate build of LL toward the WL but they wanted to tie the modular DVC Cabins to the LL, and the new water front Cabins as part of the LL DVC.

Dave, seriously dude, you need to update your narrative that the ugly DVC resort took MORE than just RC. Sadly, it is what it is.
You might want to come in from your camper and focus on reading comprehension before throwing rocks at other DIS members.

Dave
 
Does anyone know what these tall columns are for? A covered dock? An overlook? Any guesses?

Hard to tell exactly just yet but that floatmaster dock/crane setup has been in the approximate area the plans show a new boat dock. So my arm-chair assessment is that it's likely some infrastructure/footings/etc related to the dock and/or walkways in that area.

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Hard to tell exactly just yet but that floatmaster dock/crane setup has been in the approximate area the plans show a new boat dock.

There was always a dock for the new dvc resort in the orginal R* plans, Dad.

I don't think that Disney changed any of the R* plans other than a resort name and the wallpaper in the lobby. :rolleyes: Oh and stupid restaurant/IP/lobby names.

Oh and a few pillows in the resort rooms. They always change those.

How do I know this? Because Disney/DVC always takes the easy (cheap) way out. They keep the older resort plans they've already paid for. Any future difference is just paint and wallpaper.

Right? Of course it is. ::yes::

Good talk. Let's do it again soon.

Ed
 
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How do I know this? Because Disney/DVC always takes the easy (cheap) way out. They keep the older resort plans they've already paid for.
The stubborn way the keep the same plans for all of their DVCs is really stupid. Why they can't add a second sink to the studio bathroom? Every time they build a new DVC I look to see if they added the sink, and they never do.

It makes total sense to have a separate boat dock for Lakeshore Lodge. :)
 














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