DISGUSTING! How dare the police do this...UPDATE #70!!!

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

and this is definitely not the first time undercover cops have been in Falmouth High School, I can think of 2 other times besides this one in the past 10 years.
The only reason people don't know about the drug problems on cape cod is because the boston news stations only come to cape cod when something bad happened like a high school drug bust, a high school rape ring, the prostitiution ring busted in december, and murders.

 

[bigmerle1966]

Chances are the drug buys went down in the last few weeks the officer was in the school. She would have had to go in and establish herself as a student then started sending out little hints about drugs. She couldn't just go in and start asking from the beginning or she would have blown her cover. And it could be this will go no further, they may have gotten all they are going to get in that operation. I seem to remember when I was in HS that the undercover cop we had was there for longer than 4 months. With this particular operation they may have just been looking for the source of the drugs within the school.

As for what may happen to these kids, unless MA is a state that had zero tolerance, I doubt it is the end of their world. They should be punished for it, but that is up to the courts to decide, but something needs to happen so hopefully they won't do it again.

 

[kristen821]

Since when is selling drugs to another person not considered dealing?

When you make a profit you are selling the drug. I don't think they made a profit. She gave them the money they picked it up for her.

 

[kristen821]

Nobody is saying these kids didn't do something wrong. I don't care if the police officer was pretty or not that has nothing to do with it, but these kids were tricked into bringing the drugs to school. Nobody knows if they have done it before or not. They aren't the dealers who need to be arrested they got the money from the officer to pick the drugs up for her. They were the middle man, because the officer supposedly didn't know anyone to get the drugs since she was new in town. It is to late to have these children rat the real dealers out. They will be killed if they do. You can't just go around ratting out the mob, gangbangers and major dealers unless you have a death wish. If the police officers really wanted to stop the drug problem they would have brought these kids in and questioned them on where they got the drugs. If they want to punish these kids punish them with posession not a class x felony of selling drugs. They didn't get the profit somebody else did.

 

[DawnCt1]

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Obviously if I had it - or you had it - it would no longer be confidential, now would it? That's exactly my point.. If the investigation is "going further" -ummmm - I don't think getting on the six o'clock news and saying, "We're not done yet" would help their cause..

I don't think they made a dent in their 'cause'.

 

[Cindyluwho]

This happened to some of my friends when I was attending The Evergreen State College in 1980. It was awful! Much the same story, a young woman came into the college posing as a student. Started making friends then started asking around about drugs. In the end over 20 students were arrested. They arrested not just the students who actually sold the drugs but also the students who set up/introduced the undercover narc to the seller. They eventually let the middle-men go but not before they forced them to testify against the sellers. It was either testify for the prosecution or go to jail. It was horrid. I know one young man in particular whose life was never the same. He was a great kid, never did drugs, did very well in school - he ended up dropping out and going nowhere - all because he had fallen for the narc. She actually led him to believe they were boyfriend/girlfriend. Very sad. Using kids and ruining lives is not the right way to catch the dealers.

 

[kristen821]

This happened to some of my friends when I was attending The Evergreen State College in 1980. It was awful! Much the same story, a young woman came into the college posing as a student. Started making friends then started asking around about drugs. In the end over 20 students were arrested. They arrested not just the students who actually sold the drugs but also the students who set up/introduced the undercover narc to the seller. They eventually let the middle-men go but not before they forced them to testify against the sellers. It was either testify for the prosecution or go to jail. It was horrid. I know one young man in particular whose life was never the same. He was a great kid, never did drugs, did very well in school - he ended up dropping out and going nowhere - all because he had fallen for the narc. She actually led him to believe they were boyfriend/girlfriend. Very sad. Using kids and ruining lives is not the right way to catch the dealers.

That is horrible. I completely agree with your last sentence.

 

[Mom2Ashli]

Nobody is saying these kids didn't do something wrong. I don't care if the police officer was pretty or not that has nothing to do with it, but these kids were tricked into bringing the drugs to school. Nobody knows if they have done it before or not. They aren't the dealers who need to be arrested they got the money from the officer to pick the drugs up for her. They were the middle man, because the officer supposedly didn't know anyone to get the drugs since she was new in town. It is to late to have these children rat the real dealers out. They will be killed if they do. You can't just go around ratting out the mob, gangbangers and major dealers unless you have a death wish. If the police officers really wanted to stop the drug problem they would have brought these kids in and questioned them on where they got the drugs. If they want to punish these kids punish them with posession not a class x felony of selling drugs. They didn't get the profit somebody else did.

So just because they happened to be the "middle man" in this case you don't think that these teen boys looked at what the dealer is driving or has and thinks they can do the same.

The bust could put a stop to those kids making even bigger mistakes in their lives.

Sorry I will stand by "EVERYONE makes choices". And they made a bad "Choice" to be the Middle man.

 

[declansdad]

When you make a profit you are selling the drug. I don't think they made a profit. She gave them the money they picked it up for her.

So because they were stupid drug dealers who couldn't make a profit they should be sent to business school???

Nobody knows if they have done it before or not.

So you automatically assume that they didn't and they were simply a bunch of gullible, *orny boys?

 

[AllyandJack]

It's funny for me to take the other side of this since I'm usually the one watching Cops and screaming at the TV not to let the cop search you and how they're not allowed to look in the trunk. I never take this side. But, this was not entrapment. Selling drugs....that's entrapment. Getting drugs from someone ONCE.....that's entrapment. Multiple buys from a single source is not entrapment and it is against the law - whether the person made money or not. Running drugs for no benefit, or at least no monetary benefit, is still a crime.

Every high level dealer started out at this level - running for the big guy for no money. Thankfully, these kids were caught early. If more kids were caught and learned a lesson at this stage, there may be fewer high level dealers out there. But, when we perpetuate the attitude that running drugs for no money is OK as long as the buyer is hot, all we're doing is creating another generation of high level dealers who are armed with the confidence that they won, their parents will defend them, and nothing will happen to them.

MA isn't zero tolerance. Recently, they released a repeat sex offender from prison without his GPS monitoring because he "deserved a weekend off". Guess what? They don't know where he is now. This is why I don't worry about the kids being ruined by the state - the parents who think they were the victims in all this are already doing a bang up job at that.

Excuse me now.....while I go out and sell my percocet....but, don't worry, I'm not actually making any money. I'm only going to sell them for what I had to pay, so, technically, I'm only getting reimbursed for my own expenses. I'll also make sure to find a hot buyer. Anyone out there have teenagers that hang out at malls in MA? I'm selling if they're hot and buying.

 

[Mom2Ashli]

If the undercover cop was ugly they would be using the excuse that they felt sorry for her because she was ugly. So they figured they would be nice and sell her drugs.

I am sure these parents can sit and justify anything their kids did except the part where they WERE WRONG to sell drugs.

 

[MrsPete]

as a result, NINE young lives are ruined! After a 3 month undercover investigation, 9 kids ranging in age from 14-17 have been arrested for selling drugs. Total entrapment. Those poor kids. Minding their own business in their own HS, it is not like they were out on the streets selling, OH! and of course, the undercover cop was a very young looking, attractive woman! Geesh, of course those boys would get her the drugs she asked for, she was HOT.

They were caught with drugs. They made a bad choice; whether they were in their own high school or out on the streets makes no difference. If they hadn't done wrong, these students wouldn't have been punished. I do not think their lives are "ruined"; in fact, this action may have SAVED their lives before they get too far into the drug culture.

 

[TCPluto]

as a result, NINE young lives are ruined! After a 3 month undercover investigation, 9 kids ranging in age from 14-17 have been arrested for selling drugs. Total entrapment. Those poor kids. Minding their own business in their own HS, it is not like they were out on the streets selling, OH! and of course, the undercover cop was a very young looking, attractive woman! Geesh, of course those boys would get her the drugs she asked for, she was HOT.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/8532144/detail.html

I don't know what this world is coming to, when they can put undercover cops in the high schools.

Entrapment?? Not so much. Certainly the news article you linked to contains not enough information for this conclusion.

Minding their own busienss?? Not so much. They were selling ecstacy and marijuana, the two most popular drugs of choice for this age group. Rave parites cater to this young age group and ecstacy and ketamine are overwhelmingly the most popular club drugs. Can you say teen all night dance party?? It's a Rave, with the associated drugs that go with them, there's no room for debate.

Poor kids?? Not so much.

Hot undercover officer?? How do we know that to be true? The article you linked doesn't address this, only to quote one of the mothers of the defendants. How does she know, was she there? Maybe they should have put an obvious mid 30's officer in the classroom posing as a student, would that be effective?? Not so much. Kind of like sending a horn rimmed glasses wearing accountant type into a biker bar, not very effective...

 

[dwbakerjr]

I've been casually reading thru comments about the 'these poor unsuspecting boys', and 'they just made one stupid mistake', and the 'hottie cop entrapped them'...

OK, fair enough...

But at least one of the students made the news with the following story...

(Cape Cod Times/ April 8-9)
At an 11 a.m. press conference, police showed evidence gathered in a Falmouth Center home that included a bag stuffed with $6,380 worth of marijuana, $3,500 in cash, glass pipes, smoking papers, cigars and a coffee grinder. They refused to release the street address.

Chris Bartolomei, one of the Falmouth officers involved in the early morning arrests, said one teen's father was surprised at the knock on his door, but he was cooperative. He said when police entered the teen's bedroom, some of the drug paraphernalia was in the open. The teen had $351 cash in his wallet and more stuffed in a cigar box.


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poor misunderstood kiddo....
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[DWDreams]

I've been casually reading thru comments about the 'these poor unsuspecting boys', and 'they just made one stupid mistake', and the 'hottie cop entrapped them'...

OK, fair enough...

But at least one of the students made the news with the following story...

(Cape Cod Times/ April 8-9)
At an 11 a.m. press conference, police showed evidence gathered in a Falmouth Center home that included a bag stuffed with $6,380 worth of marijuana, $3,500 in cash, glass pipes, smoking papers, cigars and a coffee grinder. They refused to release the street address.

Chris Bartolomei, one of the Falmouth officers involved in the early morning arrests, said one teen's father was surprised at the knock on his door, but he was cooperative. He said when police entered the teen's bedroom, some of the drug paraphernalia was in the open. The teen had $351 cash in his wallet and more stuffed in a cigar box.


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poor misunderstood kiddo....
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I read that also. I saw another article with one of kids talking about money found in his home, maybe the same one as above, and he was quoted talking something about how the large amount of money wasn't drug money because "I keep my drug money separate."

Uh... okay then, there ya go.

 

[kristen821]

So just because they happened to be the "middle man" in this case you don't think that these teen boys looked at what the dealer is driving or has and thinks they can do the same.

The bust could put a stop to those kids making even bigger mistakes in their lives.

Sorry I will stand by "EVERYONE makes choices". And they made a bad "Choice" to be the Middle man.

I never said there shouldn't be an arrest of some sort, but I don't think a class x felony charge on thier record for the rest of thier lives is fair.

 

[kristen821]

So because they were stupid drug dealers who couldn't make a profit they should be sent to business school???



So you automatically assume that they didn't and they were simply a bunch of gullible, *orny boys?

Yes I will assume they didn't since we are innocent until proven guilty. The cop told them she was new in town and didn't know where to get the drugs. They got it for her.
The fact that the cop was hot doesn't have anything to do with it. They did something wrong, but they are getting punished for someone elses crime. They aren't the actual dealers. If they charged them with posession I wouldn't have a problem with it.

 

[declansdad]

Yes I will assume they didn't since we are innocent until proven guilty. The cop told them she was new in town and didn't know where to get the drugs. They got it for her.
The fact that the cop was hot doesn't have anything to do with it. They did something wrong, but they are getting punished for someone elses crime. They aren't the actual dealers. If they charged them with posession I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Your quote is not saying you are assuming they are innocent until proven guilty. You are saying that they are getting punished for someone else's crimes and they are not actual dealers. They sold her the drugs, not just once but nine times. I think that makes them dealers. Selling drugs = dealing drugs.

 

[Mom2Ashli]

Yes I will assume they didn't since we are innocent until proven guilty. The cop told them she was new in town and didn't know where to get the drugs. They got it for her.
The fact that the cop was hot doesn't have anything to do with it. They did something wrong, but they are getting punished for someone elses crime. They aren't the actual dealers. If they charged them with posession I wouldn't have a problem with it.

I got the impression from one of the articles that this was NOT their FIRST time selling drugs according to what they found in the kids bedroom. I would say this is the first time they got caught.

I would doubt that they will end up with a Class x felony on their record.

I just hope the families of these teens take a close look at their kids and try and fix the wrong. They have been given a second chance to get their kids going in the right direction. Just hope they take advantage of that. Stop pointing fingers at the police and start figuring out why your kid is into drugs.

 

[lillygator]

unfortunately I don't think they will be given more than a slap on the wrist when they deserve to have the book thrown at them. Why are we always making allowances? It seems truly ridiculous. If they get a slap on the wrist what is that showing them and the rest of the school...hey - no biggie, selling drugs makes $ and you don't get in to that much trouble. Maybe I should start for some extra cash - will I still be afforded the same - no felony for me?