Disboards Dissapointment

[luvthemouse71]

I agree that it can get nasty here sometimes. But,I stay anyway, because I refuse to give in to the Dis bullies. I too would like to hear your trip report.

I'll have to check out the DL board too, I may do a solo trip there later this year.

 

[mcd2745]

I think you've only been here since the tipping thread was created. Therefore, you don't know how NASTY those threads could be. This way the info AND the fighting are contained to ONE place where you can go if you choose.

And no, not everyone wants to do the right thing, tipping-wise. And when someone doesn't, those who do are absolutely ruthless in telling them how absolutely wrong they are.

Be GLAD there's a tipping thread, seriously....

I'm from NYC, so nasty comments are as common to me as breathing. I don't get put-off by that stuff.

Of course not everyone wants to do the right thing (there are 100s of refillable mug threads to prove that) - but the overwhelming majority do. And anyone else see the irony in people getting nasty over someone else supposedly not doing the right thing? I just think if there is a current thread about...say, Tusker House... and someone wants to ask about tipping there (tipping at buffets is a very legit question), they should be able to.

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

Thanks for the chuckle!

 

[TheTXTaylors5]

Totally agree! I took a 9 month hiatus from here just because I got tired of the nastiness or heaven forbid try to nicely correct someone when they post something that isnt exactly right! I just came back and started posting here and there again.....but I choose my posts/replies cautiously and I make sure what I post I can back up and not say something as fact. I like my Disney Magic without the drama.....I would love to read your T.R.

It saddens me to read the OP. However, I know exactly what she is talking about. I have been tormented not only in threads, but it went so far as to IMing me nastiness. I too have taken breaks from the DISboards so I didn't get an ulcer from some of the nasty and totally unneccessary posts by cowards. I like to come to the DISboards to help others when I know the answer or look for new information from fellow DISers for an upcoming trip. This is supposed to be my "happy place" between our Disney trips. However, I sometimes cringe when I make a post because I'm not sure who is going to flame me for MY OPINION. There is no right or wrong answer when someone is asking for OPINIONS. Sadly, some fellow DISers still don't get that and take the time to point out others OPINIONS to be wrong (in their opinion ). This is a DISCUSSION forum the last time I checked. I sometimes would get a pit in my stomach when I would check "Subscribed Threads" to see who has a negative comment to add to my nothing but positive post. Would you really say those negative things to my face??? Not likely because I'd punch you out!

I have met many fellow DISers in person and even met the creator of the DISboards (Pete Werner). So, I am not a faceless person who posts just "anything". I don't hide behind my keyboard and post jabs at people or to stir the pot. I hope what I contribute to the DISboards will help others and also let me be surrounded with "Disney Nuts" like myself. Also, I am willing to answer the same question a million times if it helps a fellow DISers. I cringe when I see posts about a question being answered before and the poster doesn't help with the answer. How Disneylike is that??? In "real life" if someone asked you for directions would you tell them, "Sorry I just told someone how to get there last week." The DISboards isn't for one select group of people, whether they've been here for years or one day. The DISboards is for EVERYONE and EVERYONE is welcome to ask questions, post answers and have fun talking about anything and everything Disney.

To the OP, I agree with the others that you should post your trip report on the Trip Report forum. Have fun with it and forget the negative posts/threads you have encountered. I have grown thick skin being on the DISboards. I have learned to "kill them with kindness".

 

[maxiesmom]

The problem, of course, is that one person's witty and insightful response is another person's flame. And vice versa. There's no "one size fits all" measurement for this.

Probably only a very small percentage of posters intend to be mean or offensive, but the rest of us sometimes end up offending others without meaning to. Some of us could stand to be more considerate. Some of us could stand to be less sensitive. "Talking" in a forum, with no verbal or visual cues, only exacerbates the problem, and the emoticons are a poor substitute. No, wait...I meant:

In the end, freedom of speech can be an offensive pain in the butt. But it's certainly better than the alternative.

This exactly.

It can be very hard to read tone on a message board. While you may take a comment as something funny and tounge in cheek, I might take very seriously and end up offended by it. Or vica versa. It is hard to tell sometimes just what a person means by just reading the words, we are all so used to hearing tone and inflection. It is easy to screw up and take things the wrong way.

Even the emoticons can be misinterpreted. I might mean to say I did something stupid, while another poster thinks I meant they did something stupid.

I guess if you are worried about what reaction you may get to the point of being upset about it, before it even happens, then you shouldn't post. But it is a shame to let a bunch of people you don't really know upset you so, before they even do anything to upset you.

I think you should post and let the chips fall where they may. Judging by your OP you are more than capable of defending yourself, should the need arise. Don't worry so!

ps--If you want to see ugly, go hop over to the transporation board and start a thread about how you didn't pay for seats, and the mean people on the plane wouldn't switch seats with you. We do tend to be a pretty rowdy bunch over there!

 

[IBLarsen]

I think I'm about to become one of those people you don't like for a moment. Were you posting this so people would try to cheer you up and then beg you to post your trip report? Cause if you don't want to post it then simply don't, no need to announce that to everyone.

I love, love, love, WDW and have been on the DIS for almost 10 years now. This is a community and like any other it is made from a wide variety of people. I think the discourse found here is what makes it interesting and the "arguments" seem to be where I learn the most. But that's just me.

Not offended by your post And no I'm honestly not asking for people to beg me for my TR. I simply came on here dis-heartened this morning. To clarify where I'm coming from and why I felt like I didn't want to post: I had posted last week from WDW after the first two days and we had an illness going through the family. We were trying to make the best of it and plans got changed but that's ok, my point was that sometimes you can't plan for everything and must go with the flow or let it ruin your vacation. I read updates on it this morning and after seeing so many people tell me my family had no business going to the parks at all, and how dare I spread sick germs. Then I read another thread with other mean remarks. And I simply thought, well I could start my TR now, but I can't do it without including our families illness which drastically changed things. And I don't feel like having to defend myself for continuing with our plans. My feelings were already hurt enough from one post, so why put another one out there to be criticized. I felt like any valuable information I had to offer or magical moments I had to share would be overshadowed by the fact that people will continue to say we had no right to be in the parks. Make sense? I just sat and wondered why people are mean on here....it's Disney related! And I should have kept my mouth shut, as I NEVER ever say anything mean to anybody on these boards and am always so very grateful for the help I receive. But at the same time I feel like someone should put out there how disspointing it can be for others to read some of the rudeness. Some of us do take it personally and I am just one of them.

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who has felt like this however, and it reminds me of the good guys on here, which is clearly the majority. So thanks for making me feel like I'm not alone.

 

[KSDisneyDad]

It saddens me to read the OP. However, I know exactly what she is talking about. I have been tormented not only in threads, but it went so far as to IMing me nastiness. I too have taken breaks from the DISboards so I didn't get an ulcer from some of the nasty and totally unneccessary posts by cowards. I like to come to the DISboards to help others when I know the answer or look for new information from fellow DISers for an upcoming trip. This is supposed to be my "happy place" between our Disney trips. However, I sometimes cringe when I make a post because I'm not sure who is going to flame me for MY OPINION. There is no right or wrong answer when someone is asking for OPINIONS. Sadly, some fellow DISers still don't get that and take the time to point out others OPINIONS to be wrong (in their opinion ). This is a DISCUSSION forum the last time I checked. I sometimes would get a pit in my stomach when I would check "Subscribed Threads" to see who has a negative comment to add to my nothing but positive post. Would you really say those negative things to my face??? Not likely because I'd punch you out!

I have met many fellow DISers in person and even met the creator of the DISboards (Pete Werner). So, I am not a faceless person who posts just "anything". I don't hide behind my keyboard and post jabs at people or to stir the pot. I hope what I contribute to the DISboards will help others and also let me be surrounded with "Disney Nuts" like myself. Also, I am willing to answer the same question a million times if it helps a fellow DISers. I cringe when I see posts about a question being answered before and the poster doesn't help with the answer. How Disneylike is that??? In "real life" if someone asked you for directions would you tell them, "Sorry I just told someone how to get there last week." The DISboards isn't for one select group of people, whether they've been here for years or one day. The DISboards is for EVERYONE and EVERYONE is welcome to ask questions, post answers and have fun talking about anything and everything Disney.

To the OP, I agree with the others that you should post your trip report on the Trip Report forum. Have fun with it and forget the negative posts/threads you have encountered. I have grown thick skin being on the DISboards. I have learned to "kill them with kindness".

Wow. I can't imagine someone getting so worked up that they start sending 'flaming' or negative IM's.

I hope that everyone is aware of the little red and white triangle with the exclamation point in it is there to report abusive behavior to the Moderators. It's at the bottom of the shaded area on the left hand side of each post in the area with the person's username/avatar/location/etc. Just click on it if someone posts something against the DIS guidelines. Unfortunately, I don't think it's on IM's, but I would forward it to a Moderator if that happened to me.

 

[disneyjunkie]

There are many DISers who think you are being mean/nasty if you don't agree with them. There are some who take the pixie dust stuff a bit to far.

 

[Hannathy]

There are many DISers who think you are being mean/nasty if you don't agree with them. There are some who take the pixie dust stuff a bit to far.

I agree 100%.

And I wish some posters would look up the meaning of the word rude in the dictionary especially the under 30 group. If you say anything they don't agree with you are rude. That is not the meaning of the word rude.

 

[Sammie]

I don't think anyone is really mean, just a little fiesty at times.

The DIS to me represents the real world, some good, some bad, but most somewhere in between.

And I totally agree rude sometimes on these forums is confused with being honest and not agreeing.

I will say though, there would be alot less hot discussions if some posters would simply stop trying to get around the Disney policies. That is when it always begins. If you don't want to follow them, fine, keep it to yourself. But when you come on here and try to promote it, you are going to run into resistance and always those threads will be closed.

 

[Cherinva]

I hear ya OP....I started a thread last week, because I had something happen to me, (not at WDW but at MCO) and wanted to get the word out to others who might be in the same situation......you wouldn't believe the comments I got...some very upsetting....there were a couple of posters that thanked me for the information, and that helped...it's made me be very careful on what I post now....

I say, post your TR.....

So glad you had a good time.

 

[CTmommyx3]

I can relate to your comments.
I have posted some questions or asked for advice and I was shocked by some of the comments that came.
I was going to stay away then realized I enjoy reading sooo many of the posts.
I guess I see it as if I see a topic I may get worked up over why post on it?
I had posted something just a simple vent type of comment and it turned ugly and people were posting nasty almost threatening things to others. Nothing even really on topic for what I had said first. got closed.
I also did not know the "rule" not to ever ask for the disney complaint email. That was a mistake to post. got many nasty things on that one, even though someone nicely posted the info right away people had to make the comments and think I was looking for something when I simply was wanting to make them aware of something.
So take everything with a grain of salt, some people just like to be right or make people afraid and all.

 

[disnut8]

You know what I do when I find a really negative post about Disney World that I don't agree with? I laugh at it. Because that person hasn't been in my shoes and seen the things at Disney World they way I've seen them. Every person is different and when someone gets upset at what I think is something silly, I just shrug it off. Yes, there are people who have lots of crappy things to say about Disney World. But it *my* Laughing Place. I don't look at it through rose colored glasses, just like I don't look at live through those lenses. However, I am a positive person and I toss off the comments. *You* are in charge of how you feel. Just put those negatives into a mental trash bin and move on.

Each trip to Disney World (and I'm over 50 of them now) brings new things. I am positively giddy thinking about our upcoming Memorial Day trip because I actually WANT to go to Magic Kingdom. That's a first for me because I love Epcot and Animal Kingdom. However, I want to see the ghosts at the Haunted Mansion fooling around, literally, with my head. I can ride Splash Mountain after five years of being on the sidelines due to an injury. I want to see the new meet and greet in Town Square (although I won't be meeting or greeting but it will be great to see little kids who do want that). I know people will complain about all three of these things I want to do but I don't care. It will be *me* experiencing them. No one else.

 

[Tink-RN]

I am so sorry

 

[bumbershoot]

I'm from NYC, so nasty comments are as common to me as breathing. I don't get put-off by that stuff.

Yes, but the moderators don't want to deal with it everywhere, and that's why the change was made. it's one thing to pay lots attention to ONE thread (while making sure nothing starts up outside of the thread)...it's another to have fights going on everywhere.

Even the emoticons can be misinterpreted. I might mean to say I did something stupid, while another poster thinks I meant they did something stupid.

And I *want want want* to use it as a "hum dee dum, nothing to see here, la dee dah" jokey sort of look, a look I would make while telling a funny story to someone...but the NAME of the emoticon makes it impossible for me to use it in that way and not have everyone offended by something I never meant to begin with.

To clarify where I'm coming from and why I felt like I didn't want to post: I had posted last week from WDW after the first two days and we had an illness going through the family. We were trying to make the best of it and plans got changed but that's ok, my point was that sometimes you can't plan for everything and must go with the flow or let it ruin your vacation. I read updates on it this morning and after seeing so many people tell me my family had no business going to the parks at all, and how dare I spread sick germs. Then I read another thread with other mean remarks. And I simply thought, well I could start my TR now, but I can't do it without including our families illness which drastically changed things. And I don't feel like having to defend myself for continuing with our plans.

Here's the difference.

If someone posts outside the TR forum about going to a park while ill, people WILL comment. I will comment. I've gone to the parks when my son was well after an illness, but he wasn't as well as I thought he was, and came across strep, and got a NASTY case of it. I still didn't think he was as sick as he was on our way home, and the flight was miserable for EVERYONE.

I won't make that mistake again if I can help it, and in fact we recently stayed in CA instead of getting on a plane to go home; stayed there for a week, because DS got a nasty stomach flu that made it hard for him to walk across the room, let alone an airport, AND I didn't want to spread it around.

And i will share those experiences.


if you tell it in a trip report however, you have all the opportunity to explain why you did it, you can non-defensively talk about your experience and if you learned anything from it. And if I'm reading that report, I'll just stop reading. I did that once with a Disneyland TR, when I realized that they drugged themselves up and went on about their business...I was actually at DLR about a week after they were there, and we went home sick with the same symptoms.... I had a personal connection to what they had done, and I couldn't read their report any longer.

That's the difference.


Write a TR or don't, but even on the DLR forum this sort of thread you created here would be taken very poorly... I might think similar things, but those are to be stated at your home to those who love you...not posted as their own thread, IMO....

 

[Nadia_disfan]

I understand what you mean and often feel uncomfortable reading threads, some people have an over inflated sense of their own opinion and appear to feel they created Disney themselves lol, .., it's a minority though and I can faithfully say the only people I've encountered forum wise, have been incredibly helpful and genuine, tho, like you, I word things carefully !! In this society these days I sometimes feel people are almost searching for things to take offense to or claim the high ground on, no ones perfect and let he who is without sin cast the first stone (you know you've all broken a rule at some time
I hope you're not too jaded by a distinct minority (tending to be the ones with thousands of posts under their name, hmm, get out much people? Lol)
I'm all for discussion and debate, but, maybe a separate "flame" board for people who like to lessen the magic and leave us happy "rainbow and unicorn " folk to just enjoy

 

[morethananyonex]

Can we get something straight?

Flaming is calling someone stupid, ugly, dumb, idiotic, etc. Flaming is insulting a person directly (usually more than a one time occurrence).

Flaming is NOT telling someone you don't agree with them, that they are wrong, or what they're doing is wrong. Flaming is not disagreeing with what someone said, and flaming is not debating something.

This is one of my biggest annoyances with these forums, people are way too sensitive to the non flaming things.

 

[maxiesmom]

Can we get something straight?

Flaming is calling someone stupid, ugly, dumb, idiotic, etc. Flaming is insulting a person directly (usually more than a one time occurrence).

Flaming is NOT telling someone you don't agree with them, that they are wrong, or what they're doing is wrong. Flaming is not disagreeing with what someone said, and flaming is not debating something.

This is one of my biggest annoyances with these forums, people are way too sensitive to the non flaming things.

I have to agree with you. It seems most any time you hold and post an opinion that is different than the one the OP posts, you are immediately called out for being mean. Or flaming, or being a troll. People should be able to disagree, as long as they do it in a polite manner. But the disagreement in itself is not rude or mean.

 

[TheTXTaylors5]

Wow. I can't imagine someone getting so worked up that they start sending 'flaming' or negative IM's.

I hope that everyone is aware of the little red and white triangle with the exclamation point in it is there to report abusive behavior to the Moderators. It's at the bottom of the shaded area on the left hand side of each post in the area with the person's username/avatar/location/etc. Just click on it if someone posts something against the DIS guidelines. Unfortunately, I don't think it's on IM's, but I would forward it to a Moderator if that happened to me.

The ignore button has been used by myself a few times. If you encounter a poster that does nothing but stir the pot, wreak havoc and harass you . . . use it! It will give you peace of mind.

In my crazy case, I was able to forward the IMs to a Moderator. (FYI - The DISboards can and does monitor IMs. So, be careful what you put in them.) The person was banned from the DISboards and then re-signed up using a different name causing more havoc. Again, I reported them and they were banned. Little does the person know, I know who they REALLY are (name, where he lives, when and where he goes on vacation, etc ... ) By the second round of harassment, I was honestly pissed by that point. He was taking the joy out of being on the DISboards and I wanted my "happy place" back and he was not going to ruin it for me! So, I tracked him down on another site cross referencing what he told on the DIS, cruisecritic.com and other sites. He was posting as a female on the DISboards, but was really an out of work stay-at-home Dad. He must have been bored and it was fun for him to harass me and others. I posted on his cruisecritic thread using my DISboards name. I would have loved to have seen his face. I posted a pleasant thing about cruising and was very general. Maybe, he does know I am on to him or he got a job because I haven't heard from him in two years.

So a warning to those on the DISboards, just because someone has a cute name and female picture/avatar, they may not always be who they say they are. Sadly, that is what you will encounter anywhere on the internet and the DISboards is no different.

"Happy and Safe DISing to All!"

 

[maxiesmom]

I hope you're not too jaded by a distinct minority (tending to be the ones with thousands of posts under their name, hmm, get out much people? Lol)
I'm all for discussion and debate, but, maybe a separate "flame" board for people who like to lessen the magic and leave us happy "rainbow and unicorn " folk to just enjoy

So on a post about rude people, and how they are not nice to be around, you throw out this gem??? I may have a few thousand posts, but I've been on the boards a few years, and made many trips to WDW. I didn't realize that trying to share info with other Disney lovers made me a bad person.

Geeze. What happened to the unicorns and rainbows?

Trust me, there have been many zingers out there from people with only a few posts to their name. Don't put all the blame for rudeness on us old timers. Many of you young'uns can be pretty darned nasty.