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I understand, but most have caused some controversy and not done terribly well at the box office. As a business model maybe they just want attention. It just seems that they say they are not trying to cause a stir, but everything they put out causes a stir.

Not bringing this up for argument or politics - purely in a business strategy way.
Hard not to offend today with so many fractured groups and limited tolerance towards one another.

But society and content aside, Disneys operating expenses have greatly increased but little to show for it with additional revenue. Good old fashion spending vs revenue problem.

And not sure the extra debt load for buying 20th Century Fox has been a net positive in the short term. Maybe another 10 more years from now? Anyone eager to visit Simpson Land at Hollywood Studios? Tour the Springfield nuclear power plant and visit a 3 eyed fish? What was the revenue stream?
 
Hard not to offend today with so many fractured groups and limited tolerance towards one another.
But society and content aside, Disneys operating expenses have greatly increased but little to show for it with additional revenue. Good old fashion spending vs revenue problem.

And not sure the extra debt load for buying 20th Century Fox has been a net positive in the short term. Maybe another 10 more years from now? Anyone eager to visit Simpson Land at Hollywood Studios? Tour the Springfield nuclear power plant and visit a 3 eyed fish? What was the revenue stream?
Record revenue in FY22, On pace for record revenue in FY23. The pandemic (still recovering) and a bad bet on streaming are the difference in operating income being at or greater than pre-covid levels.

Everything else is just noise.

The streaming strategy pivot has began and now we need time to see if things can turnaround. The stock price will go up or down based on that. Box office $ or park expansion is not moving the stock. Only other thing that would prob help the stock price is bringing back the dividend.
 
https://deadline.com/2023/07/haunted-mansion-first-reactions-justin-simien-film-1235439415/

‘Haunted Mansion’: First Reactions To Justin Simien’s Film Based On Disney Ride Praise Mix Of Horror & Humor
By Armando Tinoco
Night & Weekend Editor
July 16, 2023 8:51pm PDT

Disney held its world premiere of Haunted Mansion without actors due to the SAG-AFTRA strike and the first reactions of the Justin Simien-directed film are coming in.

Inspired by the classic ride at the Disneyland Resort theme park. The story of the film is about a woman and her son who enlist a motley crew of so-called spiritual experts to help rid their home of supernatural squatters.

Steven Weintraub from Collider praised Simien and screenwriter Katie Dippold saying they “did great work” in the adaptation.

“Happy to report Haunted Mansion is one of those family films that will spook kids, make adults laugh (a lot), and fans of the ride will keep pointing at the screen because it’s loaded with Easter eggs,” Weintraub tweeted.

POC Culture editor noted on Twitter that they saw Haunted Mansion before the strike and called the film “a love letter to the iconic Disney ride & a family-friendly thriller.”
“The cast, led by LaKeith Stanfield, is outstanding & hilarious. Full of fun cameos, references to the ride & a healthy dose of jump scares,” they added.

Although the founder of Nightmarish Conjuring was still gathering their thoughts on the film, she said, “the amount of heart it has couldn’t have been achieved without the writing of Katie Dippold. She weaves together a story that tackles death/grief in a palpate way while riding a fine line btwn humor/horror.”

Screenrant’s Joseph Deckelmeier tweeted that Haunted Mansion was “an entertaining movie for your whole family can enjoy. There’s some fun scares for the kids and a lot of Easter eggs for you eagle-eyed #disney parks fans.”

Journalist Laura Sirikul said Haunted Mansion “should have been a Halloween release instead of a summer release. It makes [no] sense. It’s up against Barbie & Oppenheimer.”

Of the film itself, Sirikul tweeted, “Haunted Mansion was entertaining, filled with one-liners & quirky jokes. The first act was a bit slow but speeds up in the 2nd&3rd to a good pace. Good scares for kids. Disney fans will love the Easter eggs. Tries a little too hard to be deep, but it’s still fun to watch.”

The cast of the film includes LaKeith Stanfield, Tiffany Haddish, Owen Wilson, Danny DeVito, Rosario Dawson, Chase W. Dillon, Jamie Lee Curtis as Madame Leota, Jared Leto as Hatbox Ghost and Winona Ryder. Hasan Minhaj and Dan Levy also make an appearance in the film.

Haunted Mansion opens in theaters on July 28.
 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/b...s-stars-25-percent-pay-cut-strike-1235537951/

Barry Diller Says Executives and Top-Paid Actors Should Take a 25% Pay Cut, Warns of Industry Collapse If Strikes Not Settled by Sept. 1

The media mogul also argued that fears of AI replacing writers and actors are unfounded.

July 16, 2023 7:15pm PDT
by Kimberly Nordyke

Barry Diller, chairman and senior executive of IAC and Expedia Group and former Hollywood studio chief, says that top executives and the highest-paid stars should take a 25 percent pay cut to narrow the gap between their salaries and those of the folks at the lower end of the pay scale.

“There’s no trust,” he said in an interview that aired Sunday on CBS’ Face the Nation. “You have the actors union saying, ‘How dare these 10 people who run these companies earn all this money and won’t pay us?’ While, if you look at it on the other side, the top 10 actors get paid more than the top 10 executives. I’m not saying either is right. Actually, everybody’s probably overpaid at the top end.”

His solution? “The one idea I had is to say, as a good-faith measure, both the executives and the most-paid actors should take a 25 percent pay cut to try and narrow, narrow the difference between those who get highly paid and those that don’t.”

Diller also argued that both the writers and actors strikes should be settled by Sept. 1 to avoid “devastating effects.” The Writers Guild of America has been striking since May 2 and SAG-AFTRA went on strike Friday after each guild’s respective negotiations with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers fell apart.

“What will happen is, if in fact, it doesn’t get settled until Christmas or so, then, next year, there’s not going to be many programs for anybody to watch,” Diller predicted. “So, you’re going to see subscriptions get pulled, which is going to reduce the revenue of all these movie companies, television companies, the result of which is that there will be no programs. And at just the time, strike is settled, that you want to get back up, there won’t be enough money. So this actually will have devastating effects, if it is not settled soon.”

He continued: “The truth is, this [Hollywood] is a huge business both domestically and for world export. … These conditions will potentially produce an absolute collapse of an entire industry.”

Diller went on to discuss the topic of AI, which was one of the sticking points for both guilds and the studios in their since-stalled negotiations. Diller thinks that fears of AI taking over are unfounded, saying that it’s being “overly hyped.” He doesn’t see a reality in which AI replaces actors or writers.

“Yes, you can ingest all this stuff and spit out something that sounds like Shakespeare, but guess what? It is not original Shakespeare,” he argued. “And writers will get assisted, not replaced. Most of these actual performing crafts, I don’t think are in danger of artificial intelligence.”

Meanwhile, Diller also doubled down on comments he made in April when he argued that publishers should sue over generative AI. He said he and a group of “leading publishers” — he declined to specify who — are planning to sue to stop AI from scraping and using data without paying and to protect copyrighted material. He did not give a timeline of when a lawsuit would be filed.

“It’s not antagonistic,” he said of the potential litigation. “It’s to stake a firm place in the ground to say that ‘you cannot ingest our material without figuring out a business model for the future.’ “
 
More opinion, FWIW

https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...e-studios-blown-it-streaming-glut-blockbuster
Have Hollywood studios blown it with the streaming glut? They can’t say they weren’t warned

Walt Disney’s CEO Robert Iger says the studio ‘lost focus’ by concentrating on its Disney+ content. Can the blockbuster movie ever recover?

Ben Child
Mon 17 Jul 2023 11.49 BST

Should Marvel and Star Wars fans be starting to get worried that the Disney mea culpas are coming quicker and faster? It was only in February that the mouse house’s CEO, Bob Iger, told shareholders that the mega-studio needed to get “better at curating” franchise content for Star Wars and Marvel because of the extraordinary expense of creating it.

Now, in the middle of the company’s worst box office slump in years, Iger this week told CNBC that Disney would be both “spending less on what we make, and making less” in the years to come.

It’s a response to movies such as Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, Pixar’s Elemental and Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny all struggling to put bums on seats for various reasons. Each of these films falls under the Disney mantle via its various sub-studios (Marvel, Pixar, Lucasfilm), as the company has hoovered up so many of its rivals in recent years. That all creates fabulous material for Disney+, but also means there’s an ever-expanding need for more and more movies and interconnected TV shows to keep all the sofa-bound, slavering content-hounds happy.

You might think it would be rather unwise to let all those subscribers know they can expect a lot less new material coming through in future. It doesn’t feel like a week goes by without one of my favourite Amazon Prime shows switching to a channel that requires an extra subscription fee, but the streaming site is hardly shouting this to the rooftops. Iger, on the other hand, almost seems to be blaming Disney+ for causing all the studio’s issues.

“We would have liked some of our more recent releases to perform better,” Iger told CNBC. “It’s reflective not as a problem from a personnel perspective, but I think in our zeal to basically grow our content significantly to serve mostly our streaming offerings, we ended up taxing our people way beyond – in terms of their time and their focus – where they had been.”

“Marvel’s a great example of that,” he continued. “They had not been in the TV business at any significant level. Not only did they increase their movie output, but they ended up making a number of television series, and frankly, it diluted focus and attention. That is, I think, more of the cause than anything.”

How this works is beyond me. Were the few extra licks of creativity plunged into She-Hulk and Ms Marvel really responsible for Quantumania’s listless storyline and unfocused script? Have Pixar’s recent ventures into episodic streaming content somehow made Elemental less of a box-office event?

The latter seems more likely. There has been much industry talk of audiences failing to get excited about turning up to the multiplex for a new movie that they would most likely have had the chance to catch at home during the Covid-19 lockdown. And this is something, to be fair, that distributors have been warning about for years. Anyone recall 2013’s Best Buy system, which would have allowed the 1% to purchase new movies on the same day as they turned up in cinemas for $500 a pop on top of $35,000 in set-up costs? Then there was start-up Screening Room in 2016, which followed a similar business model. Distributors fought tooth and nail to keep first-run movies in cinemas, claiming that a shift to the small screen would put multiplexes out of business and lead to a degradation of the film-going experience.

Iger’s comments seem to suggest that they might have been right, although the future has panned out somewhat differently to how many imagined. A huge element has been the pandemic, which sent a glut of high-profile new movies straight to people’s homes because multiplexes were unable to open.

Cinema chains are struggling, with Cineworld at one point entering bankruptcy. But rather than pile on more streaming misery, giants such as Disney seem to be waking up to the possibility that this brave new world of home content has the potential to cause problems for the entire industry – including themselves. Who knew that convincing audiences they no longer need to go to the cinema would torpedo a blockbuster movie model that’s been in place since the mid-1970s? Well you can’t say nobody warned us.
 
Can somebody explain the "sharing" options available, or possible solutions for what a streaming show/movie brings in?

Seems like it would be pretty hard to decipher.

Like did anybody "buy" Disney+ just to watch Mando?

Did anybody "keep" a subscription just because of Mando?

Did anybody only watch Mando (no other programs/movies) and therefore that entire subscription can go toward Mando?

To me, it would only work by "minutes watched" per show/movie over an entire month by account. Can they track that by account?

So if you paid a $10 subscription for June, and streamed 100 minutes of one show, and 200 minutes of another, and 700 minutes of another-the available split would be $1, $2 and $7.

Then again, I guess just total minutes watched by show/movie, then divide entire revenue would be accurate as well.
 
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More opinion, FWIW

https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...e-studios-blown-it-streaming-glut-blockbuster
Have Hollywood studios blown it with the streaming glut? They can’t say they weren’t warned

Walt Disney’s CEO Robert Iger says the studio ‘lost focus’ by concentrating on its Disney+ content. Can the blockbuster movie ever recover?

Ben Child
Mon 17 Jul 2023 11.49 BST

Should Marvel and Star Wars fans be starting to get worried that the Disney mea culpas are coming quicker and faster? It was only in February that the mouse house’s CEO, Bob Iger, told shareholders that the mega-studio needed to get “better at curating” franchise content for Star Wars and Marvel because of the extraordinary expense of creating it.

Now, in the middle of the company’s worst box office slump in years, Iger this week told CNBC that Disney would be both “spending less on what we make, and making less” in the years to come.

It’s a response to movies such as Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, Pixar’s Elemental and Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny all struggling to put bums on seats for various reasons. Each of these films falls under the Disney mantle via its various sub-studios (Marvel, Pixar, Lucasfilm), as the company has hoovered up so many of its rivals in recent years. That all creates fabulous material for Disney+, but also means there’s an ever-expanding need for more and more movies and interconnected TV shows to keep all the sofa-bound, slavering content-hounds happy.

You might think it would be rather unwise to let all those subscribers know they can expect a lot less new material coming through in future. It doesn’t feel like a week goes by without one of my favourite Amazon Prime shows switching to a channel that requires an extra subscription fee, but the streaming site is hardly shouting this to the rooftops. Iger, on the other hand, almost seems to be blaming Disney+ for causing all the studio’s issues.

“We would have liked some of our more recent releases to perform better,” Iger told CNBC. “It’s reflective not as a problem from a personnel perspective, but I think in our zeal to basically grow our content significantly to serve mostly our streaming offerings, we ended up taxing our people way beyond – in terms of their time and their focus – where they had been.”

“Marvel’s a great example of that,” he continued. “They had not been in the TV business at any significant level. Not only did they increase their movie output, but they ended up making a number of television series, and frankly, it diluted focus and attention. That is, I think, more of the cause than anything.”

How this works is beyond me. Were the few extra licks of creativity plunged into She-Hulk and Ms Marvel really responsible for Quantumania’s listless storyline and unfocused script? Have Pixar’s recent ventures into episodic streaming content somehow made Elemental less of a box-office event?

The latter seems more likely. There has been much industry talk of audiences failing to get excited about turning up to the multiplex for a new movie that they would most likely have had the chance to catch at home during the Covid-19 lockdown. And this is something, to be fair, that distributors have been warning about for years. Anyone recall 2013’s Best Buy system, which would have allowed the 1% to purchase new movies on the same day as they turned up in cinemas for $500 a pop on top of $35,000 in set-up costs? Then there was start-up Screening Room in 2016, which followed a similar business model. Distributors fought tooth and nail to keep first-run movies in cinemas, claiming that a shift to the small screen would put multiplexes out of business and lead to a degradation of the film-going experience.

Iger’s comments seem to suggest that they might have been right, although the future has panned out somewhat differently to how many imagined. A huge element has been the pandemic, which sent a glut of high-profile new movies straight to people’s homes because multiplexes were unable to open.

Cinema chains are struggling, with Cineworld at one point entering bankruptcy. But rather than pile on more streaming misery, giants such as Disney seem to be waking up to the possibility that this brave new world of home content has the potential to cause problems for the entire industry – including themselves. Who knew that convincing audiences they no longer need to go to the cinema would torpedo a blockbuster movie model that’s been in place since the mid-1970s? Well you can’t say nobody warned us.
I can agree to that.
 
Disney has almost doubled their revenue since 2014, but EPS is 1/3 what it was back then. And they no longer pay out a dividend.

$DIS really needs to get their costs under control.
The creation of the 'Direct to Consumer' (DTC) division (started reporting in FY2017) went from $0 in cost in FY2016 to a cost of $23.6b in FY2022.

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In the last 4 reported quarters, the DTC division has reported $25b in costs! Lol

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Disney's streaming strategy has been an unmitigated disaster. They have pivoted but they let this snowball far to long.
 
Went through the Cruise data for 2022:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03157553/filing-history

All numbers in millions:
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For some reason this info is delayed coming out. I dont know why.

Those filings are the only way to get DCL data separated out. DCL data is reported within the Disney Parks, Experiences and Products division. Specifically, under ‘Domestic Parks’ of the ‘Parks and Experiences’ segment.

‘Cruise Revenue‘ is reported under ’Resorts and Vacations’ and Other Revenue is under ‘Parks and Experiences Merchandise, food and beverage.

FY22 DCL was still hampered by Covid issues.
 
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I wonder what led to the loss? Maybe it is the launch of a new vessel? or the purchase of that asian mega ship?
 
I wonder what led to the loss? Maybe it is the launch of a new vessel? or the purchase of that asian mega ship?
No, those are deemed capital expenditures. Covid still impacted most of Fiscal year 2022 (October 2021 to Sept 2022]. They couldnt run at full capacity so they ran a loss.
 
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I wonder what led to the loss? Maybe it is the launch of a new vessel? or the purchase of that asian mega ship?

No, those are deemed capital expenditures. Covid still impacted most of Fiscal year 2022 (October 2021 to Sept 2022]. They couldnt run at fully capacity so they ran a loss.
Yeah they operated at around 63% for FY22. Occupancy has gotten up to 96% as of March 2023.
 



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