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I kind of forgot about the check that is still due Comcast. Was there any mention of it on the call or the report? i have not had time to dig into them yet.
In their 10-K they said they owe anywhere from $0-$5B pending the third party valuation.

“During the initial phase of the appraisal process, the Company’s appraiser arrived at a valuation that falls below the guaranteed floor value, while NBCU’s appraiser arrived at a valuation substantially in excess of the guaranteed floor value. Once the arbitration is completed, determination of the final equity fair value will take into account the valuation of a third appraiser pursuant to the appraisal process as resolved by the arbitration. If the third appraiser’s equity fair value determination were equal to or below the guaranteed floor value, the Company would not be required to pay NBCU any additional amount. Conversely, if NBCU’s appraiser’s valuation were deemed to be valid and the third appraiser’s equity fair value determination were consistent with the NBCU’s appraiser’s valuation, the Company would be required to pay NBCU an additional amount of approximately $5 billion as its share of the difference between the equity fair value and the guaranteed floor value. If the third appraiser’s equity fair value determination were between the valuations of the Company’s and NBCU’s appraisers, the incremental amount would likewise be between zero and approximately $5 billion.”

Sounds like Comcast valued it close to $43B where Disney has it at the floor of 27.5B
 
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More and more it seems like Chaepek was left to take the bullets, it seems that Disney had a pretty good idea they’d be taking their lumps for a while during the linear to streaming switchover. I still think he made a bad ceo, but more and more it looks like he was given a bad lot at the worst time
I don’t disagree but many of his issues were compounded by his “delivery”. A great CEO can balance that -but no doubt it’s a BIG job for a high profile business. How many casual investors in Coke pay attention to all the finer details of leadership and decision-making? Not me, for one….
 

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$DIS will likely break its Rolling 4 Quarter Operating Income record at some point in FY25 and not sure where it peaks. Stock is still undervalued.
Is it any wonder why the stock price has been relatively flat over this same period (x the irrational exuberance of the streaming spike up)? If you have a minute @clarker99, what would a stock price overlay on this chart look like? Please and thanks!
 
https://www.wsj.com/business/media/...rsal-cable-channels-cc5c6dc5?mod=hp_lead_pos8

Comcast Greenlights $7 Billion Spinoff of NBCUniversal Cable Channels

New venture will house channels like E!, USA and MSNBC; company to announce several leadership changes

By Amol Sharma

Updated Nov. 19, 2024 6:41 pm ET

Comcast is expected to announce Wednesday that it is moving forward with a plan to spin off its NBCUniversal cable TV networks, according to people familiar with the situation, acknowledging that it will be better off without a business that was once its crown jewel.

The company, which last month said it was studying the idea, will separate off entertainment and news channels including MSNBC, CNBC, USA, Oxygen, E!, Syfy and Golf Channel. Those assets generated about $7 billion in revenue in the 12 months ended Sept. 30.

Bravo, known for reality TV programming such as the “Real Housewives,” will stay in the mother ship, along with the Peacock streaming service and the NBC broadcast network, the people said.

Comcast is betting that NBCUniversal’s remaining assets—including in broadcast TV, sports, movies and theme parks—will be better positioned for growth, and that its strong balance sheet can absorb the loss of still-healthy profits from cable networks.

The new cable venture would likely need greater scale to thrive, media executives say. Comcast’s leadership sees the potential for it to consolidate other networks across the dial over time.

When Comcast gained control of NBCUniversal in 2011, its cable networks were considered among the most attractive assets. Channels such as E!, known for red-carpet coverage, and women-focused Oxygen, seemed to have plenty of potential in the growing U.S. cable market.

However, years of cord-cutting have taken a heavy toll on subscribers and viewership. Every major media company has slashed costs in these networks, but Comcast is the first to hive off nearly the entire business into a separate firm.

The transaction, structured as a tax-free spinoff to Comcast shareholders, is expected to take around a year to complete. The new cable venture will have an ownership structure that mirrors Comcast’s, with Comcast Chairman and CEO Brian Roberts holding a one-third voting stake. Roberts won’t be on the board of the new venture.

Mark Lazarus, who is currently the chairman of NBCUniversal’s media group, with oversight of TV and streaming platforms, will be named chief executive of the new venture. Anand Kini, who has served as chief financial officer of NBCUniversal, will be the CFO and operating chief of the new company.

In anticipation of the spinoff, Comcast President Mike Cavanagh is making several other leadership changes, effective immediately.

Chief Content Officer Donna Langley will become chairman of NBCUniversal Entertainment and Studios, gaining streamlined authority to greenlight productions and more financial visibility and control over content spending, the people familiar with the situation said. She will also oversee marketing across the entertainment portfolio.

Matt Strauss, a Comcast veteran who heads the direct-to-consumer business, will be named chairman of NBCUniversal Media Group, with control over areas such as sports, ad sales and distribution. Langley and Strauss will share ownership of key areas of the business.

Cesar Conde will remain chairman of NBCUniversal News Group, overseeing NBC News, Telemundo and local TV stations. He will also advise the company on growth opportunities. Executive Vice President Adam Miller, whose portfolio includes operations, technology, communications and human resources, will become NBCUniversal’s COO.

Write to Amol Sharma at Amol.Sharma@wsj.com
 
So, over the time frame there is almost no correlation bw company profit and stock price. Makes sense. Lol
It kind of makes sense, in a Wall Streety way, across some time periods:

2016-2019 Stock price pretty study while IO was study

2019-2020 IO increases (if memory serves) due to Parks being packed and and quests paying up to join those crowds. WS never gives the parks their due, so the stock price moves little.

Then Covid changes everything. Somehow WS forgets the lessens from 25 years ago that a web site needs more than eyeballs to be a financial success and drives the PE thru the roof for about a minute.

As the chart moves into 2023, it looks like stock price starts to be based on current and future OI outlook again.

That's my inflation adjusted two cents.
 
https://www.cmcsa.com/news-releases...es-intention-create-leading-independent-media

PHILADELPHIA—(BUSINESS WIRE)—Nov. 20, 2024— Comcast Corporation (NASDAQ: CMCSA) today announced its intent to create a new publicly traded company comprised of a strong portfolio of NBCUniversal’s cable television networks, including USA Network, CNBC, MSNBC, Oxygen, E!, SYFY and Golf Channel along with complementary digital assets including Fandango and Rotten Tomatoes, GolfNow and Sports Engine, through a tax-free spin-off. The well-capitalized independent company (“SpinCo”) will have significant scale as a pure-play set of assets anchored by leading news, sports and entertainment content.

SpinCo will be an industry-leading news, sports and entertainment cable television business with a focused strategic direction. SpinCo’s stable of marquee brands will provide a diverse and differentiated content offering that will reach approximately 70 million U.S. households.

The planned spin-off will also strategically position NBCUniversal with its leading broadcast and streaming media properties, including NBC entertainment, sports, news and Bravo – which all power Peacock – along with Telemundo, the theme parks business and film and television studios.
 
It kind of makes sense, in a Wall Streety way, across some time periods:

2016-2019 Stock price pretty study while IO was study

2019-2020 IO increases (if memory serves) due to Parks being packed and and quests paying up to join those crowds. WS never gives the parks their due, so the stock price moves little.

Then Covid changes everything. Somehow WS forgets the lessens from 25 years ago that a web site needs more than eyeballs to be a financial success and drives the PE thru the roof for about a minute.

As the chart moves into 2023, it looks like stock price starts to be based on current and future OI outlook again.

That's my inflation adjusted two cents.
As long as it makes sense to you... Lol
 
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/comcast-bold-move-slim-down-140000096.html

Comcast’s Bold Move to Slim Down NBCUniversal Sets It Up for a Streaming-Focused Future | Analysis

CEO Brian Roberts’ decision to spin out dying cable properties bets big on Donna Langley and Peacock

by Lucas Manfredi - The Wrap
November 21, 2024 @ 6:00 AM

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/b...-cable-spinoff-msnbc-bravo-sports-1236068481/

All Bets Are Off for MSNBC, CNBC and Bravo: Behind the TV Spinoff That Will Shake Up Cable

Comcast's $7 billion deal comes with a slew of uncertainties that involve news, sports, entertainment and the cable business writ large.

by Alex Weprin
November 21, 2024 8:12am

https://deadline.com/2024/11/nbcuniversal-cable-networks-spinoff-bravo-staying-1236182691/

The Streaming Divide: How NBCU’s Entertainment Networks Ended Up On Different Sides In Comcast Spinoff After Years Of Integration

By Nellie Andreeva - Co-Editor-in-Chief, TV @DeadlineNellie November 21, 2024 - 7:00am
 
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interesting that they did not keep CNBC and MSNBC... The fact they saw no value long term there for NBC/Comcast/Universal is quite telling...
 
Thought this was an interesting view of the power of Disney parks vs Universal and may speak a bit to Epic's impact - AK attracted more dollars to the area than the very popular HP IP:

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/l...nty-how-the-new-park-could-boost-the-economy/

Taking look at what led up to Epic Universe and what comes next​


As Orange County comptroller, Diamond tracks the tax dollars tourists spend. He expects visitors to stay longer and spend more money, though he is unsure exactly how much more.

“The year after Animal Kingdom opened, there was about an 8% increase in spending, which is a good increase. However, the year after Islands of Adventure opened, there was about a 1.8% increase. After Harry Potter opened, there was about a 7% increase,” he explained.
 
Thought this was an interesting view of the power of Disney parks vs Universal and may speak a bit to Epic's impact - AK attracted more dollars to the area than the very popular HP IP:

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/l...nty-how-the-new-park-could-boost-the-economy/

Taking look at what led up to Epic Universe and what comes next​


As Orange County comptroller, Diamond tracks the tax dollars tourists spend. He expects visitors to stay longer and spend more money, though he is unsure exactly how much more.

“The year after Animal Kingdom opened, there was about an 8% increase in spending, which is a good increase. However, the year after Islands of Adventure opened, there was about a 1.8% increase. After Harry Potter opened, there was about a 7% increase,” he explained.
With only being able to spend 1 day at Epic, i could see a family picking a three day ticket and spending the other 4 at WDW, i wonder how much extra revenue this brings the mouse.
 














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