Did anybody see the Granddugger baby birth show?

I watched it and I didn't think that Jim Bob had issues with the home birth. After all Michelle & Jim Bob had a few home births as well.

My doctor's office has nearly a dozen doctors and I never met one of them until after delivery where the on call doctors would check on me for my doctor. If my doctor was out for an appointment I would meet with an NP not a doctor.

I do know that with the announcement of the birth it was said they had the baby at home with a midwife.

I noticed that two of Anna's sisters were modern and the others not at all. Just found it interesting that the older two adjusted to a more modern and less modest look.

I thought over all it was very sweet. Having family to help like that has to be really nice too :)
 
Saw the episode with the birth and baby shower. Josh actually "caught" the baby, didn't he? What a thrill that must have been for him.

Earlier, I had seen commercials stating it was a 90 minute episode, but the guide on my tv only showed the one 30 minute episode. My DVR is set to tape all new episodes and only recorded the one. Now I gotta find the other two (although I'm sure they will be showing again soon:))

It seems that there was a lot of editing in the one episode that I saw....it sounded as if there was more to the conversation between Josh and his dad and the pause before Jim Bob's "pray on it" seemed as if it was at the end of a longer conversation between the two.

And Josh and Anna probably discussed a home birth, to some extent, before labor started. But a more more intensive discussion probably happened at the time they realized that their Dr. wasn't available.

And Anna's parents live in Florida, I believe, so that would take a little longer (and more money) to get to them in time for the birth, I suppose.
 
I did notice that at one point when Anna was speaking directly to the camera she called her MIL "Mrs. Duggar". I thought it was odd that she wouldn't call her mom or by her first name or something. Seemed odd to me, but what do I know. :confused3

I think she called her both Michelle and Mrs. Duggar. I'm sure as the DIL, she's still trying to figure out her place. Also, Anna is not comfortable in front of the camera's. I'm sure she's also trying to figure out when to be formal and when not to.

Where was that girl's mother? I have posted this before and been mildly flamed but I think the Duggars have full control and are kind of pushing her family aside. Really I did not want my inlaws at my kids births. They actually showed up with Tim Horton's and sat down like they were going to stay...umm NO!

Maybe her mother couldn't afford to come? The baby was early. She probably planned to come out around the due date. She does has other kids to worry about childcare about. Also, it's the Duggar show, she probably talked to her mom but they just didn't show.

Congrat's Josh and Anna!
 
I thought the show was wonderful! Although I took some things a little differently then some of you. As for the decision of a home birth- when his dad asked if he had called the hospital, he didn't make any mention of the Dr. being out of town and they didn't show him calling the office or hospital all he said was we're thinking of a home birth.
He also said they had "talked about it for hours" yet at that time she had only been in labor a short time, also they had to have asked the lady to be their doula before that morning...anyway I took it as they decided before Anna went into labor, to have a home birth. And not as a last minute choice. I'm surprised no one has complained about Josh weighing the baby like a sack of apples! ;)
I don't really know a lot about home births so I'm curious- do they have to go to the hospital anyway after the birth??? What would they do with the placenta at home, throw it in the trash? If someon can fill me in, I'd appreciate it! Thanks


First off--that's how home birthed babies are weighed.:thumbsup2

Second--the way I heard it--home birth was mentioned on the phone and then after Josh elaborated.

If my solo practice doc was planning on being out of town, I would have known well in advance and made alternative arrangements if I wasn't keen on a back up. I'd have my own back up plan.

The doula--I am going to suggest that she is also a CNM--who was only going to act as a doula at the hospital--but was able at the last minute to just assist them at the house. They did publish statements that a midwife was present and we didn't see a second body anywhere that had no identity attached to them.


Something gross to answer your question--placentas can be planted in the ground. Nope I did not do this--nor do I recall why I know this.:scared1: No idea what they did.

As for the rest of the waste--it can just go into the garbage. We're talking amniotic fluid and blood--that can be bundled up and tossed.

Baby (based on the home birth mamas I know)-would get a follow up with a pediatrician--but no the mama and baby do not have to go to the hospital.

The paperwork for things such as birth certificate and ssn--can all be done out of the hospital.

Home birth is not for me--but as I said, I've known several moms who have done this and for a low risk pregancy, it is as valid an option as any for birthing.
 

I thought that maybe they went with a home birth because the covering Dr. was male. That, to me, seems like something that would make Anna uncomfortable. In regards to the plane tickets, I bet TLC paid for them ;). I am also in the belief of not buying a used car seat. Didn't see the show hoping to catch it on re-runs.
 
Were they going to do a water birth at first? It looked like the bathtub was empty but Anna was in it with a blanket over her?
 
Seems many people need to look at actual statistics about safety of home vs sick-people-building birth...

Also might peek at how awful this country's infant mortality rate is compared to other countries where homebirth is more the norm, and think "I think we're doing something very very WRONG".


They just had their doula. I don't believe doula's have medical schooling. I kept thinking they are so lucky everything went ok. So many complications could have arisen, cord around neck, bleeding, breathing, etc. And they had no doctor or midwife to help.

I bet they know where a hospital is.

If Mrs Duggar doesn't count as a midwife by now (the vast majority of her births have been done the normal way) I do not know who does.

Bet they had allll sorts of good proven ways of helping any problems...better than what most OBs know to do!


(There are states where homebirthing is illegal--hence the....hush hush midwives.)

Clarification...some states might prosecute attendants for attending a birth, but the actual homebirth is NOT illegal. Seems a petty difference, but the actual reality of "homebirth is illegal" vs "it's illegal for some attendants to attend" is HUGE.

Jim Bob's reaction made me laugh too....the silence when Josh said they were thinking about a homebirth said it all, but it was nice that he didn't give him a lecture and trusted them to make the right decision for their family.

I wish they would have mentioned a midwife if there was one there. Unassisted homebirths (not having anyone trained to deliver babies there) are becoming more popular, and that can be risky for Mom and baby.

I do believe many of the Duggars births were at home. I highly doubt he actually questioned it; perhaps wanted to make sure THEY were doing what they truly wanted, but I doubt he had a true issue with it.

UCs are the way to go in my book. I'd always dreamed of it, was talked into midwives by new hubby, biggest mistake I ever made. Having people around me was horrible. I needed to be alone in a small room, not watched like a clock. Attendants caused my body to react like I was a deer in labor and they were lions circling, but they wouldn't let me flee.


I don't really know a lot about home births so I'm curious- do they have to go to the hospital anyway after the birth??? What would they do with the placenta at home, throw it in the trash? If someon can fill me in, I'd appreciate it! Thanks

No need for a hospital visit unless something's actually wrong. Weigh baby in whatever way you want. Can throw away placenta, can plant it, can eat it (it helps control bleeding and can help keep depression away! it's amazing!), can dry it and take as capsules later (again, bleeding suppression and depression aversion).

One of my sorrows of having the attendants I did, and going along with their idiocy when they washed their hands of me and plopped me at the hospital was that I was so tired that I didn't think to have them give me my placenta. I never even saw it. It's a pretty big sorrow for me, along with the other sorrows of going to the place where they keep the scalpels.

I loved the idea of a home birth myself, but I was told not to try it with my first baby because you never know how your body works as far as labor and delivery go until you've tested it out once. It turned out that mine doesn't labor at all without pitocin, so I've always had my babies in the hospital.

Aw hon...I bet your body would labor on its own. I bet you have just reached the legal limit of time that your attendants would give you, before their insurance insists that they DO something. Hubby was a 44 week baby. His mom didn't go into labor until then; if she'd had the same OB situation as is happening today (her docs said "You want surgery?" and she said "No", and they shut up and let her continue without daily calls) she might have thought she didn't labor without help, but she did.

Her first birth was unattended in rural Korea. Took 5 days from start to finish. 100 lb woman raised in occupied Korea had a 10 lb FIRST baby. If she had medpros around she likely wouldn' thave done it, but left alone she did. I wish I'd known this story BEFORE having DS.

Anyway, most of my friends tried that line on me, and it helped me get to the midwife "you can't have it alone with your first", and like I said above, I found out TOO LATE that my bod doesn't work in front of other people. Big bad problem to find out too late!



So happy for this new baby being born at home, so happy for the mom and dad who got the joys of not being surrounded by scalpels (or bad midwives like mine were), and who definitely had an experienced woman nearby!!!!!
 
Were they going to do a water birth at first? It looked like the bathtub was empty but Anna was in it with a blanket over her?

They weren't going to do a water birth. Josh said that Anna found that showers made her feel a little more comfortable during the labor.
 
I was quite surprised at how calm Anna was. I, too, had a baby with no anesthesia and I was was swearing like a sailor. It made me think of what JimBob said when he took a few of them to the dentist once. One of the boys had to get a filling and got the shot in the gums and didn't flinch. JimBob said that they stress taking things calmly, and not freaking out over a little discomfort. Contrast that with the screaming bloody murder Gosselin kids when they just had their teeth cleaned. Anyway, maybe Anna is like that, too. Not overly exciteable. Now that I think of it, they're ALL pretty laid back and calm, considering there are dozens and dozens of children in that house.

Oh, I agree with PP. If Michelle Duggar isn't qualified to assist in a home birth, I don't know who the hell is. I'd also let her deliver my calf, if I had one.
 
Were it not for the fact that I have recently read so many non-fiction books based on how the Amish live, I might have been a bit surprised that Josh and Anna considered a home birth.. I guess in this day and age we just "assume" that everyone wants to give birth in a hospital.. However, the Amish prefer to have all of their children born at home - with or without a midwife - in very primitive surroundings.. Although I have not come across the precise statistics - in terms of infant mortality among them - the population is growing by leaps and bounds.. In many cases the mothers are giving birth to twins and it's not at all uncommon for one family to have as many as 15 children or more.. I guess it just really boils down to personal choices and/or cultural beliefs..

The baby is a cutey - and Anna did a great job delivering her first baby! No way I would have handled it that well.. LOL..:laughing:

The only thing I didn't like was the baby diaper shower game.. Ugh! :eek: It actually made me feel sick to my stomach just watching it.. If I were there, I would have been in the bathroom barfing.. :sick: I guess that comes with old age though: weak stomachs; fear of heights; claustrophobia; etc..:rotfl: I can remember a time when that kind of stuff wouldn't have bothered me at all.. Sigh.................
 
Aw hon...I bet your body would labor on its own. I bet you have just reached the legal limit of time that your attendants would give you, before their insurance insists that they DO something.

I suspect that too, but I do have 5 healthy and wonderful kids no matter how they got, and for that I am very grateful. Still, I think homebirths are wonderful and am glad Josh and Anna had such a positive experience with theirs.
 
Seems many people need to look at actual statistics about safety of home vs sick-people-building birth...

Also might peek at how awful this country's infant mortality rate is compared to other countries where homebirth is more the norm, and think "I think we're doing something very very WRONG".




I bet they know where a hospital is.

If Mrs Duggar doesn't count as a midwife by now (the vast majority of her births have been done the normal way) I do not know who does.

Bet they had allll sorts of good proven ways of helping any problems...better than what most OBs know to do!
UCs are the way to go in my book. I'd always dreamed of it, was talked into midwives by new hubby, biggest mistake I ever made. Having people around me was horrible. I needed to be alone in a small room, not watched like a clock. Attendants caused my body to react like I was a deer in labor and they were lions circling, but they wouldn't let me flee.



So happy for this new baby being born at home, so happy for the mom and dad who got the joys of not being surrounded by scalpels (or bad midwives like mine were), and who definitely had an experienced woman nearby!!!!!

Ok. Can't let this statement go. That is one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever heard. HAVING a baby (or 18 in this case) does not make you a "midwife". At least not a TRAINED midwife.
:sad2::sad2:

The word "midwife" means with woman, so I guess if you want to use the DEFINITION then anyone can be a "midwife". I am sure most TRAINED health care providers (ie-MIDWIVES) would take great offense at your statement.
 
On last weeks show, Michelle recounted each birth she has gone thru and I believe only 1 was a home birth. I could be wrong, but that is what I remember. She was saying Jim Bob was worried about the mess and had put plastic over everything.
 
I'd agree that Michelle Duggar is not by any means a trained midwife, and I don't think I've ever heard here claim any such credentials. However, with the amount of experience she has in pregnancy and childbirth, I'd say that she's probably pretty well qualified to act as a doula should she wish to.

I had a doula when I had DD two years ago -- a sweet little old lady who happened to be a Honduran NUN. (My hospital had an in-house doula program; just ask when you arrive and one will appear -- no extra charge.)
 
The only thing I didn't like was the baby diaper shower game.. Ugh! :eek: It actually made me feel sick to my stomach just watching it.. If I were there, I would have been in the bathroom barfing.. :sick: I guess that comes with old age though: weak stomachs; fear of heights; claustrophobia; etc..:rotfl: I can remember a time when that kind of stuff wouldn't have bothered me at all.. Sigh.................

:rotfl:This is the game we played at the babyshower I gave my friend a few years ago! Everyone was rofl!! It was hilarious. It really does look like a dirty diaper:lmao: I think the grossest one was the melted mounds bar dirty diaper.:rotfl: The coconut started on fire when I melted it in the microwave :confused3 Probably easiest was junior mints!
 
I wonder if the "spur of the moment" home birth was more planned than they made it appear. They had been taking Bradley classes for many weeks, and I'm sure they had to have done their research before choosing the home birth. I wonder if they kept it quiet so that they wouldn't get flack for their decision if they had announced their plans earlier.
It was a beautiful birth. It is amazing what a woman's body is able to do if allowed to do so without interventions hindering things.

It made me sad that we are done having kids, and will never have that experience again. That squishy new baby was adorable.

The one thing I thought was odd was how Michelle and Anna wore matching maternity outfits at the baby sale. It's a little weird to dress like your MIL. Especially when your both pregnant.
 
On last weeks show, Michelle recounted each birth she has gone thru and I believe only 1 was a home birth. I could be wrong, but that is what I remember. She was saying Jim Bob was worried about the mess and had put plastic over everything.
She had 2 at home. She had extra bleeding with that one due to medication she was on. They decided to do the hospital again after that birth. At least that is what was quoted from her book that I found online.
 
There are states where homebirthing is illegal

Home birth is and never has been illegal in ANY state. MIDWIVES are illegal in some states. If anyone wants to know what states I have a link.

Home birth is safe, it has been proven to be just as safe as a hospital birth. Midwives are trained, and carry the things they need, in order to respond to any emergencies that may come up. That and the cord around the neck? not a big deal 99% of the time.

(I had a home birth after c-section 7 months ago.)
 
A doula can deal with cords around baby's neck. What they aren't trained in is the medical side of things such as infant resuscitation. I had a home birth with DD#2. The only medical intervention I needed was to have a few stitches after. Midwifery is legal here and they are sanctioned by the college of midwives. The rules are that there has to be two midwives present for a home birth. With ours baby was coming fast and the second midwife was about 15 min away so EMS had to be called. EMS serves as the backup until the other midwife is on scene. The paramedics and firefighters were great. They kept their distance and waited in another room and even waited until it was all over just in case and they didn't need to do that.
To have a home birth a woman has to be a candidate for one. That means low risk pregnancy. Blood pressure is good. Position of baby is good. 37 weeks + (full term).
We are expecting another baby in March and plan A is homebirth as long as everything is looking good. I go for my anatomical scan this week so we are praying everything looks good with baby's heart etc.

I would choose a homebirth anyday over a hospital birth. I had DD#1 in the hospital and it was a gong show. One of the reasons now is that I would prefer not to have my baby exposed to all the germs that are prevalent in hospitals.


As for the show...I didn't watch it but I will now as the couple is so cute and I am happy for them.
There may have been more to the story than was showed such as having EMS outside waiting just in case.
 
I am thinking she was a midwife, and they had been planning this. Doulas don't carry tools to cut the cord, or a Doppler. Planning a homebirth, in a state where midwives are not legal, on TV is not a smart thing, lol.
 














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