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lauren0309

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News does not look too good for Delta. They're in arbitration right now. We have a flight scheduled to go to Florida on April 17th. They have till April 15th to make a ruling if they will strike. Insurance company's are not covering Delta tickets if you buy insurance now but we bought the tickets months ago so we should be covered and get a refund. The problem for us will be finding new flights within 2 days of leaving.
 
That really stinks... I must be in the dark cause I haven't heard anything about Delta.

I guess you can't try and get a refund now and find a different Airline??
 
You never can tell what will happen. Northwest and their pilots came to an agreement. We fly down to Disney on the 14th, so I guess the worst that will happen is that we will be stuck in Florida. Hmm, could lots of worse places.
 

I guess that's great news for us.
The last I heard was that the "cooling off " period ended March 30th and they could go on strike March 31st.
We're booked on Song, March 31st for the way down and April 7th for the way home.
Hope all goes well for everyone,
Joe
 
This basically sounds like a repeat of the NW threads a few weeks ago. Personally, I don't think DL will strike. The pilots have to know that the result will NOT be a new better contract offer, but unemployment.

I have a very expensive ticket for a trip to Europe this summer on DL and I am not worried.
 
We are also scheduled to fly Delta in June. I am getting a little nervous, this would only be our second time flying so I don't know for sure what is going on. What happens if they strike, would we lose our fare money? We bought everything through Disney, we also got the insurance that Disney offers. If anyone has any advice/comments please help!!
 
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CarolA said:
This basically sounds like a repeat of the NW threads a few weeks ago. Personally, I don't think DL will strike. The pilots have to know that the result will NOT be a new better contract offer, but unemployment.

I have a very expensive ticket for a trip to Europe this summer on DL and I am not worried.

I agree. The pilots have nowhere to go if they strike and Delta goes under. It's all scare tactics.
 
Our flights are May 8-13. They have one more week of arbitration, so hoping all goes well.
 
IF they strike, and you bought from Disney call Disney... in this case the TA can (which is Disney) can rebook you.

If like me you bought your own ticket, you get to deal with Delta UNTIL the day Delta closes which would be not too long after the strike. In that case, the bankruptcy law kicks in. For domestic flights the other airlines will then have to honor your tickets on a standby basis.

If the strike occurs call either you CC or your TA first and then proceed.
 
If you would have to rebook, how difficult is this? We have 11 members in our travel party, would it be safe to assume we could all travel together?
 
If a major airline cease operations (which is the likely result if DL is hit by a strike), experts estimate that it might take days for the remaining airlines to get the stranded passengers home. It would be safe to assume that things will be messed up for a while.
 
I am watching this too as five of us are flying Delta to MCO on 3/29 and returning 4/07. We are meeting other family members @ WDW with all the hotel reservations in our name. It would really be a mess if something happened and we couldn't arrive before the rest of the family.

In reality...our hearts go out to the many Delta employees that have been trying to keep the airline afloat. They have had their wages/benefits chipped away for months now. I hope there is a way to resolve this!
 
We have tickets on Delta for August. We bought the cheapest tickets available at the time of booking. We did not get insurance or anything. Will other airlines have to pick us up if delta goes out?
Thanks
 
mell said:
We have tickets on Delta for August. We bought the cheapest tickets available at the time of booking. We did not get insurance or anything. Will other airlines have to pick us up if delta goes out?
Thanks
From the website bicker posted earlier (Thanks, bicker!)
Maybe, but only other USA-based airlines flying exactly the same routes (which there aren't in many cases), only if space is available (which it probably won't be in many cases), and only until 30 November 2006.

Under provisions of current USA Federal law, other airlines based in the USA are required to provide transportation to holders of tickets on other USA-based airlines that have ceased operations due to insolvency or bankruptcy, "to the extent practicable", provided that the passenger made arrangements with another airline within 60 days of the shutdown of the ticketed airline.

This law was first enacted in 2001, and has been extended three times, as follows:

Aviation and Transportation Security Act of 2001, Section 145 (Public Law 107-71, 19 November 2001)

Century of Aviation Reauthorization Act of 2003 (P.L. 108-176, 12 December 2003)

Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (P.L. 108-458, 17 December 2004)

Transportation, Treasury, Housing and Urban Development, the Judiciary, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 2006 (P.L. 109-115, 30 November 2005)

The USA Department of Transportation has interpreted this law in a series of guidance letters (administrative rulings) to mean that other USA-based airlines flying the exact same route are required to honor tickets of a USA-based airline that shut down, on a space-available (standby) basis, for no more than US$50 (originally $25, increased to $50 in June 2005) per person per flight, one-way, in most cases.

Other airlines filed a federal lawsuit (Delta Air Lines, Inc. and American Airlines, Inc. vs. U.S. Department of Transportation, Case No. 02-1309 (U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, filed October 8, 2002) challenging the $25 per flight limit as exceeding DOT's authority: they argued that they should be allowed to charge at least their regular $100 per person minimum re-ticketing fee, and that they have no way to verify whether someone had an electronic ticket in the reservation system of an airline whose reservation system has been shut down. That lawsuit was withdrawn by the airlines, but without any decision on the merits, and could be re-filed.

The latest notice from the DOT, issued 1 June 2005 raised the amount that other airlines could charge to US$50 per flight (one way) within the USA. The DOT also indicated in its latest notice that it might allow other airlines to charge more than $50 per person for international flights, if necessary to cover taxes (which can be more than $100 per person on some international flights) or to recover the airlines' actual costs of providing transportation. But the airlines still could -- and probably would if the potential costs were substantial -- challenge any attempt by the DOT to enforce its interpretation, prevent them from charging more, or force them to accommodate passengers without positive written proof of having had tickets on the bankrupt airline.

This law provides no protection at all to many ticket holders, and only very limited protection to the rest. It was intended to reassure travellers, not really to protect them. Its main effect was (and still is) to give travellers a false sense of protection. It applies only to other airlines based in the USA flying the same route, and only if they have space available after selling as many tickets as they could to their own paying passengers. If a major airline went out of business, many passengers would have to wait weeks for seats to be available, especially at that airline's hubs. Particularly on international routes, there is often no other USA-based airline flying the same route.

This law requiring airlines to accommodate passengers holding ticket on insolvent airlines was originally scheduled to expire on 18 May 2003. Congress has extended it three times, most recently through 30 November 2006, but each time with a "sunset" provision that will cause it to expire automatically unless Congress takes further action. Since it does more to mislead travellers than to protect them, consumers would probably be better off if it were allowed to expire than if it were extended again in its present form.
 
In a nutshell, there is really a shared-risk situation: If the airline is subject to a strike, both the airline and its passengers will suffer.
 
I really don't know much about the history of airlines in this position, what has typically happened in the past with other companies? I am really hoping that things get worked out for everyone. I attempted to read the info about airline bankruptcy from a previous post, but its over my head. I guess I am just nervous. I know that when we go in June, we can't change days and with 11 of us going it would be more than just me affected.
 
Basically other airlines may honor your ticket if they have space available. There is no absolute requirement for any other airline to honor a bankrupt airline's tickets, but in the past most other airlines have done their best to accommodate travelers to the best of their ability (it's just good customer service and good PR).

That said, they may charge you up to $50 to accommodate you. And you have to make arrangements with another airline within 60 days of the bankrupt airline going out of business.

Bottom line: airlines that accommodate a bankrupt airline's tickets are doing so as a good will gesture. There is NO PROTECTION to ticket holders and NO GUARANTEE your ticket on a bankrupt/out-of-business airline will be honored.
 
If you're talking about a major airline actually going under, something like that has only happened once before, with Braniff, and even then it wasn't really like this, because back then there was no reason to believe that the industry had too much capacity. The industry is so different now that there really are no close comparisons.

Just one thing to add to what Tigger said: The $50 stuff is for stand-by accommodation only. The airlines can and probably will try to sell those seats for anything over $50, anytime before flight time.
 





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