DIS Dads DDC XXXIII: Bad Idea Factory!!!

[RodBelding]

We teach our team all the fundamentals - hitting, fielding and rules of the game. Some of our kids may not be the best at it, but they all know how to properly swing a bat and field a ground ball. Other teams - not so much. It seems that other coaches are more worried about the post-game snack than actually coaching. Half of the kids on other teams don't know proper hitting stance. And it drives our other assistant coach nuts. He's also the head coach for one of the high school teams in the city. He was complaining to me during one of the last games: "None of these coaches at this level teach anything, so by the time these kids get to me and want to play high school ball they don't know how to catch a fly ball and I get my name in the paper for going 5 and 15!"

Looks like someone needs to get his team Tom Emanski's videos...

 

[afwdwfan]

Looks like someone needs to get his team Tom Emanski's videos...

My high school baseball coach knew less about baseball than half of his players. We always made fun of him. He'd be on the field talking about something like the strategy of a hit and run and would keep referring to printouts as he's talking.

We had this hitting video with Dusty Baker that he would make us watch all the time. It was really kind of annoying, but we won a lot of games anyway. It just goes that talent is more important than coaching.

 

[budamacdvcr]

Top 'O the Morn'n Lads! Get me through this week - big screen tv in bonus room finally went last night Been on life support for the past few months so kinda new it was coming but still now have to deal with the extra expense. At least we are almost at the halfway mark for the week.

I am very competitive but not to the point of getting into a fight on a court, field, etc. I'm more likely to walk away from a debate with the opposition and stick it to them by playing better. With that being said, kids aren't being taught to be competitive.

I am 110% for good gamesmanship, shaking hands, playing hard but fair, not running up the score, etc. But we NEED to stop with the participation awards. If they want to do that for the little kids, fine. But as soon as you legitimately start keeping score, it's time to dial back the everyone plays the same amount of time and everyone gets a trophy crap.

That is all.

Could not agree more and will leave it at that.

OK, men. I'm off to bed. Tomorrow is a big and exciting day!
I have a work cookout at noon and then I have my post-op appointment for my knee around 3:30. I'm hoping they have done a good enough job to allow me to return to my exceptionally average athletic ability.
Then I have a chiropractor appointment.
Dinner with friends at 6PM and then I'm off to celebrate a friend's 50th Bday.

Hope you get good news from the Doc and the rest of the day looks pretty enjoyable.

OK, that gives me hope.
Your comments reminds me of my niece. Ridiculously smart. Had a nice scholarship to Case Western for Bio Medical Engineering. Graduated cum laude . She's always been gifted. you look at her room and there is just crap everywhere!

I didn't know you were my DDs uncle They are all like that. Just had to give DD a kick in the backside last night that her room better be returned to human standard of living by the time I get home today. Still did not un-pack from WDW trip, food boogers, cups, empty bags of chips, plates, close all over the floor & furniture, dirty laundry piled everywhere except the basket - really looked like a tornado hit it

 

[declansdad]

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OK, men. I'm off to bed. Tomorrow is a big and exciting day!
I have a work cookout at noon and then I have my post-op appointment for my knee around 3:30. I'm hoping they have done a good enough job to allow me to return to my exceptionally average athletic ability.
Then I have a chiropractor appointment.
Dinner with friends at 6PM and then I'm off to celebrate a friend's 50th Bday.

Hope you get good news.

My son played in a coach pitch baseball league this summer. The only score that was kept was to know if a team scored 5 runs in an inning (mercy rule - each inning is 3 outs or 5 runs scored) After the last game, I glance over into the other team's dugout, and the coaches are handing out trophies to all of the kids. They weren't league trophies - remember, there was no wins or losses that anyone kept track of. The coaches just decided to give all of their kids trophies for participation.

We teach our team all the fundamentals - hitting, fielding and rules of the game. Some of our kids may not be the best at it, but they all know how to properly swing a bat and field a ground ball. Other teams - not so much. It seems that other coaches are more worried about the post-game snack than actually coaching. Half of the kids on other teams don't know proper hitting stance. And it drives our other assistant coach nuts. He's also the head coach for one of the high school teams in the city. He was complaining to me during one of the last games: "None of these coaches at this level teach anything, so by the time these kids get to me and want to play high school ball they don't know how to catch a fly ball and I get my name in the paper for going 5 and 15!"

Welcome to my world. It seems that almost everyday we are having the discussion about youth coaches who don't get it and focus on all the wrong things in athlete development.

As for the everyone get a trophy, I hate that. There is nothing wrong with giving everyone some type of memento for the season but it doesn't need to be a trophy. There is also nothing wrong with recognizing individual.

 

[Captain_Oblivious]

** Bad Idea of the Day **

Didn't quite think that one through, did they?

Totally agree. To me, youth sports should teach fundamentals and sportsmanship. And that includes knowing how to be a gracious winner or loser and come back the next game to try again.

I like to use a Simpsons quote: "In a sense, you're all winners today. But in another, more accurate sense, so-and-so is the winner."

At the parent/teacher conferences for my son last year, we had to ask his teacher to set him up to fail. He was getting straight A's on all of his tests and assignments. We asked her to really challenge him, because coasting all the way through grade school and getting complacent that he'll ace everything could be a real shocker when high school starts - especially if he gets into the IB program.

I get where you're coming from. We had to do the same with our son. But then comes the fun of coaching your kid through failure (and tears).

My son's league this summer was coach pitch. Aside from that, the standard rules of baseball applied. In our 4th or 5th game, our first baseman caught a pop up, then stepped on 1st base to double off the runner that took off for 2nd. The opposing coach was livid that we were "playing those rules."

My son performed an unassisted double play in the same way a couple of years ago. I told him I was proud he knew the rules so well.

You mean "baseball" rules???

Geeze... learning the rules of the game is a pretty significant part of learning the fundamentals of the game, IMO.

And I bet that a kid on that other team learned to make sure he knows where a ball in the air is going before he takes off.

Most of my time spent coaching in t-ball was telling the kids to stop playing in the dirt and pay attention before they got hit in the face. At one point I asked if a pirate had buried treasure under the infield.

‘Morning all…
Hope all are doing as well as can be expected.

Odd times down this a way. Not going to get into details but “fundamental change”, seems to be the watch words that I can apply to a great deal of the events, practices and habits I’ve become accustomed to. Of course change is truly the only constant in life to begin with so I shouldn’t be too surprised.

Not scary changes, I hope?

 

[cj9200]

At the parent/teacher conferences for my son last year, we had to ask his teacher to set him up to fail. He was getting straight A's on all of his tests and assignments. We asked her to really challenge him, because coasting all the way through grade school and getting complacent that he'll ace everything could be a real shocker when high school starts - especially if he gets into the IB program.

Don't worry, IB will kick his and your behind. College is cake compared to what she went through with IB. Went to a parent's meeting in her fifth grade and a newbie complained about all the homework. We just laughed at him and said get used to it.

My son's league this summer was coach pitch. Aside from that, the standard rules of baseball applied. In our 4th or 5th game, our first baseman caught a pop up, then stepped on 1st base to double off the runner that took off for 2nd. The opposing coach was livid that we were "playing those rules."

To paraphrase Tom Hanks, there is no whining in baseball. One of the proudest moments of my life was when I coached T-ball. A kid hit a rocket and my third baseman cleanly fielded it and threw a rope to first base for an out. Everyone's jaws dropped including mine.

OK, that gives me hope.
Your comments reminds me of my niece. Ridiculously smart. Had a nice scholarship to Case Western for Bio Medical Engineering. Graduated cum laude . She's always been gifted. you look at her room and there is just crap everywhere!

I will not go into DD's room unless I am in a hazmat suit.

Most of my time spent coaching in t-ball was telling the kids to stop playing in the dirt and pay attention before they got hit in the face. At one point I asked if a pirate had buried treasure under the infield.

That and dealing with the parents that think their kid is a reincarnation of Babe Ruth. Loved coaching the kids in both baseball and soccer but HATED dealing with some of the parents.

 

[AirGoofy]

We had this hitting video with Dusty Baker that he would make us watch all the time. It was really kind of annoying, but we won a lot of games anyway. It just goes that talent is more important than coaching.

Yup. Bellicheck wasn't a genius coach in Cleveland. Phil Jackson didn't coach the Darko Milicic to a Championship.

They are all like that. Just had to give DD a kick in the backside last night that her room better be returned to human standard of living by the time I get home today. :

Unfortunately, neither my DW nor dds can keep the room clean. I figured it was a woman thing.
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** Bad Idea of the Day **


Didn't quite think that one through, did they?

There was a billboard in Louisville several years ago that said "Illiteracy. Call 222-2222"

At the parent/teacher conferences for my son last year, we had to ask his teacher to set him up to fail. He was getting straight A's on all of his tests and assignments. We asked her to really challenge him, because coasting all the way through grade school and getting complacent that he'll ace everything could be a real shocker when high school starts - especially if he gets into the IB program.

Disney is still negotiating with most of the non-company restaurants. They'll all slowly be added back into the plan as they settle on contract terms for 2015.

We ask both dds teachers to do the same. When my dds get bored in class, they talk loudly.

 

[GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes]

Top 'O the Morn'n Lads! Get me through this week - big screen tv in bonus room finally went last night Been on life support for the past few months so kinda new it was coming but still now have to deal with the extra expense. At least we are almost at the halfway mark for the week.

A bonus room without a big screen? Sacrilege!
Hopefully you’ll find an affordable replacement in the near.

I like to use a Simpsons quote: "In a sense, you're all winners today. But in another, more accurate sense, so-and-so is the winner."

Words to live by.

Not scary changes, I hope?

Not to worry, I ain’t in need of prayer or much in the way of concern.
The important stuff is intact; family, shelter, employment…
Just a lot of refiguring, reassessing and shuffling around related outside activities, memberships, side projects and the like. All that extraneous stuff this fills in the bits of life outside the realm of your immediate kin folk.

I will not go into DD's room unless I am in a hazmat suit.

Some of your scuba gear could be used toward that end.
Of you could just throw caution to the wind like this guy…

There was a billboard in Louisville several years ago that said "Illiteracy. Call 222-2222"

Pretty sure someone was missing the point there.

 

[RodBelding]

My high school baseball coach knew less about baseball than half of his players. We always made fun of him. He'd be on the field talking about something like the strategy of a hit and run and would keep referring to printouts as he's talking.

We had this hitting video with Dusty Baker that he would make us watch all the time. It was really kind of annoying, but we won a lot of games anyway. It just goes that talent is more important than coaching.

I love any coaching strategy that involves putting a vhs-tape/dvd into the player and sitting back while the video does all the work.

 

[ClearScreen]

We teach our team all the fundamentals - hitting, fielding and rules of the game. Some of our kids may not be the best at it, but they all know how to properly swing a bat and field a ground ball. Other teams - not so much. It seems that other coaches are more worried about the post-game snack than actually coaching. Half of the kids on other teams don't know proper hitting stance. And it drives our other assistant coach nuts. He's also the head coach for one of the high school teams in the city. He was complaining to me during one of the last games: "None of these coaches at this level teach anything, so by the time these kids get to me and want to play high school ball they don't know how to catch a fly ball and I get my name in the paper for going 5 and 15!"

It's epidemic and not limited to baseball. Part of the problem is some of those parents think they know more than your son's coach.

When I was coaching my son's mite hockey team(8 and under), during the first game of the season, on the bench after the first period, a mom came over to me to tell me she didn't want her son playing defense. I calmly explained to her that he asked to play defense and we don't have that many volunteers for defense. I further explained to her that I rotate the kids so they get to play all positions and he probably would be playing forward in the 2nd period. Then, as nicely as possible, I explained to her that she could never EVER come to the bench in the middle of a game and if that was an issue, she could talk to the commissioner and find another team. She was quiet for the rest of the season.

One of my favorite stories is what I was told by a fellow hockey coach who happened to be an 8th round draft pick in the NHL, won an NCAA championship, and had a 12-15 year NHL career which included scoring a game-winner in a Stanley Cup Final, and a bazillion other accolades. He coaches his son's squirt team and he told he gets nonsense from parents who think he should not be employing a fair player rotation to give every kid a chance on the power play, penalty kill, etc. He told them he'd make adjustments to win games that really mattered, otherwise he was giving every kid a chance to see if they could handle different situations and learn how to play the "entire" game. I joked with him that if he hears it from parents, what chance do the rest of us have? I told him to tell the parents, when they score a game-winner in the Stanley Cup, then we can talk. We had a good laugh about that.

 

[Twin Dad]

Good morning gentlemen. Once again I'm so far behind, I think I'm ahead.

You mean "baseball" rules???


Geeze... learning the rules of the game is a pretty significant part of learning the fundamentals of the game, IMO.

And I bet that a kid on that other team learned to make sure he knows where a ball in the air is going before he takes off.

We just wrapped up our first season of park and rec T-ball. Kids mostly practice fielding, throwing, and hitting then play a simulated game. When the kids hit they get to run to each base no matter what happens. It'll be funny to see how the kids adapt to rules being added in a year or two.

Tonight we start soccer. We were shocked this year that it will be just games and no practice time at all. Coaches are only responsible for rotating in fresh players and policing rough play. They are also splitting up girls and boys which I'm not at all happy about.

My son's league this summer was coach pitch. Aside from that, the standard rules of baseball applied. In our 4th or 5th game, our first baseman caught a pop up, then stepped on 1st base to double off the runner that took off for 2nd. The opposing coach was livid that we were "playing those rules."

Did that idiot never play baseball?

 

[declansdad]

Tonight we start soccer. We were shocked this year that it will be just games and no practice time at all. Coaches are only responsible for rotating in fresh players and policing rough play. They are also splitting up girls and boys which I'm not at all happy about.

No practices!! How in the world will the kids develop any skills?

You wouldn't believe that uproar there was after this was on the radio: http://www.cbc.ca/thisisthat/blog/2...thletic-association-removes-ball-from-soccer/

Too bad people didn't take the time to realize that this is a satirical show.

 

[Twin Dad]

I would love to know what I've been searching to get this ad to pop up.

 

[ClearScreen]

We just wrapped up our first season of park and rec T-ball. Kids mostly practice fielding, throwing, and hitting then play a simulated game. When the kids hit they get to run to each base no matter what happens. It'll be funny to see how the kids adapt to rules being added in a year or two.

When I was coaching baseball/softball, I found that the kids who really want to play and love the game figure out the rules by listening to coaches, watching on TV, older siblings, experience, etc. Other kids never figure out the rules no matter how many times you go over them, because they really don't want to be there.

We had the same experience as far as disparate levels of coaching among the teams in baseball in particular. In 2nd grade in my town, the boys went from t-ball to a pitching machine. A few of the coaches couldn't figure out how to use it. Instead of asking for help, they just didn't use it at all during practice and did coach pitching. My team practiced on the pitching machine for weeks before games started. When games started, some of the other coaches were mad at us for insisting that we use the machine instead of coach pitch. Those were the league rules, so we used the machine.

After a few games, my team and a few others were destroying the coach-pitch teams whose kids couldn't even make contact. By comparison, even the worst kids on my team could make solid contact with a ball pitched from the machine most of the time. The League President had to step in an insist that the machine be used in all practices because that's what the league wants. I heard from so many parents who asked if their son could join our team so they could learn how to hit a pitched ball. So many kids quit after that season. It was really sad to see.

 

[Twin Dad]

No practices!! How in the world will the kids develop any skills?

You wouldn't believe that uproar there was after this was on the radio: http://www.cbc.ca/thisisthat/blog/2...thletic-association-removes-ball-from-soccer/

Too bad people didn't take the time to realize that this is a satirical show.

If they had mentioned this in the summer activity brochure we never would have signed them up. I get the director's point that kids just like to play and get bored doing drills. But, dang nabbit they need to work on their fundamentals a little bit before you just throw the damn ball out there. I like the way the Tball league did it. All practice the first two weeks then less and less practice as the season went on.

 

[declansdad]

If they had mentioned this in the summer activity brochure we never would have signed them up. I get the director's point that kids just like to play and get bored doing drills. But, dang nabbit they need to work on their fundamentals a little bit before you just throw the damn ball out there. I like the way the Tball league did it. All practice the first two weeks then less and less practice as the season went on.

At a young age there are ways of teaching the skills of any sport that are not really drill-based. Most "drills" can be made in to games.

 

[moose615]

Hey guys hope all is well, hate that I haven't been on in a month, nice newish thread. Hope everyone has been doing well.
Counting down the sept universal trip and the oct ToT 10 miler trip, also booked flights for the Jan Star Wars half trip yesterday, we added days to the trip so now deciding between staying at the Fairfield or going all out on the Grand Californian since it'll prob be awhile till we go back.

Had a trying few weeks, two weeks ago my friend and former supervisor (the one I took over for last year) passed away from heart failure and then Monday one of my mechanics passed away from a heart attack. They were 63/64. Overall everything's good, hope everyone is doing well.

Ohhh also heard a interesting Beatles tidbit today, John Lennon signed the papers officially breaking up The Beatles at Disney World with the Poly in the background.

 

[Captain_Oblivious]

[SHAMELESS SELF-PROMOTION]

I went and started a TR for our latest adventures in the American Southwest. You might not be interested until we reach Disneyland, which won't be for a while. But, if you're a glutton for punishment:

The Dry Heat Expedition

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[ClearScreen]

At a young age there are ways of teaching the skills of any sport that are not really drill-based. Most "drills" can be made in to games.

Exactly this!!

You can look on the internet or ask other coaches. All it takes is a little extra effort by a coach and/or some creativity to make any drill fun.

We do this in hockey all the time. The easiest way to make any drill fun - add a shot on goal at the end (even at an empty net). Kids will do any drill if you let them grab a puck and shoot at the end.

 

[theduck619]

It seems like every year when the next year's prices are released there are always some that aren't listed right away. Usually restaurants operated by third party vendors that just haven't signed the contract for the next year yet. I haven't seen the list for 2015, but this could change as we get closer.

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Disney is still negotiating with most of the non-company restaurants. They'll all slowly be added back into the plan as they settle on contract terms for 2015.

Thanks guys, this is good to know. Would 1900 Park Fare and Teppan Edo be ran independently?

It was at our parrish. They will play other Catholic schools in the Archdiocese.