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You guys make me want to stay away from Toronto.

What, not their crack-smokin' mayor? :rotfl2:



Toronto is quarantined until further notice. I don't want to alarm anyone, but this could be the start of the Zombie Apocalypse.

By-the-by, neither of us are from Toronto.

Got a call from the school, Audrey complained of not feeling well. She claims all the rain yesterday made her sick. :rolleyes2 She saw dad take a sick day, figured she'd get in on it. She barely has a cold.

Now she's home with me. between the two, I'll take my chances with the zombies...:rotfl2:
 
What, not their crack-smokin' mayor? :rotfl2:





By-the-by, neither of us are from Toronto.

Got a call from the school, Audrey complained of not feeling well. She claims all the rain yesterday made her sick. :rolleyes2 She saw dad take a sick day, figured she'd get in on it. She barely has a cold.

Now she's home with me. between the two, I'll take my chances with the zombies...:rotfl2:


No worries about running into the mayor. From what I read he stays hidden.

Greater Toronto = Toronto in the minds of all Canadians except for those who live in the GTA. ;) :lmao:
 

No worries about running into the mayor. From what I read he stays hidden.

Greater Toronto = Toronto in the minds of all Canadians except for those who live in the GTA. ;) :lmao:

We are the "Greater" in "Greater Toronto Area" :rotfl2:

Plus, its awfully hard to hide something that big...:rolleyes1 ( I can say stuff like that, cuz I'm a big guy )
 
Toronto is quarantined until further notice. I don't want to alarm anyone, but this could be the start of the Zombie Apocalypse.

I thought we concluded previously that the zombie apocalypse will start in Miami, it just might take a while for the rest of the world to figure out that they are not normal Miamians. :rotfl2:
 
Ok, so here's my take on the whole gun thing.

We've already established the dude was an absolute moron for taking it in there (especially that POS weapon which is as much a threat to the person shooting it as it is to the intended target). Furthermore, it was lost in a position that a child could have found it and, children being children, done something tragic. Heck, my five year old turns sticks into guns, if he found a real one, unattended, he might think it was one of his toys and might pull the trigger thinking nothing of it. The results could be tragic.

I'm a Firearms Instructor for a Federal Law Enforcement Agency, and have been a Firearms/Safety/Tactics Instructor for over 17 years. Most of my weapons are locked in a safe in my Garage at all times except for a shotgun and a handgun locked in a safe in my room "just in case". I've been threatened enough and have had people I've arrested show up at my house enough times that I feel the need to at least have some sort of defense nearby.

The Rifles (AR15, MK 18, .308 Remington 700--as well as my tactical shotgu n), and all but one handgun, stay in the safe and do not come inside. Period. They ride with me to work, get put back in. Or get taken to the range, cleaned outside, and put back in. That's just the way it is at my house. My family's safety is paramount to me.

In regard to CCW, I believe everyone should learn to shoot and be able to defend themselves, and I strongly believe in a non restricted view of the 2nd Amendment. Should there be disqualifiers for Felons, drug addicts, mentally ill...ABSOLUTELY.

I believe if you purchase a weapon, you should be required to complete a 30 day training course with a CERTIFIED Instructor prior to being allowed to carry it on your person. I'm not talking about these one day, fly by night places that have the bare minimum for each State's CCW law. Not all places are like that, but when I teach it, the class is 30 days (not all day) and by the time you're done, you know your stuff or I don't sign your certificate.

I could go on for hours, but I guess the bottom line is training and common sense, which ain't so common anymore....I can promise you this, the twelve inches or so between your ears are far more important than weapon caliber or type of ammo.

Want to know the value of a millisecond? Ask the guy who finished second in a gunfight. We're trained to keep our wits while everyone else is losing theirs. This is no one way range---it's great that you can shoot a bullseye all day long at the range.....how do you shoot when that paper target is shooting back at you?

Anyone feel comfortable drawing their weapon in a panicked Disney Crowd to respond to a shooter? When you are there with your family? While women, children and others are running around between you and him screaming/crying and what not.

So you draw your weapon and fire from 25 yards away? How good are you at 25 yards? What happens next if you miss, or even if you hit (Magic rounds that pick bad guys up off their feet and slam them dead to the ground only happen in Hollywood....)? Guess who they're going to start shooting at next?

You prepared? Mentally?

If you've taken that responsibility on yourself you better be!

When you're on vacation and you're "turned off"? I'm not. At Disney I'm in my happy zone...I am in no way shape or form in the same mindset I have at work....heck, I don't have that same mindset at home. Home is home.

So I guess, yes I think CCW is a good thing. People just have to realize that they taken on significant responsiblities when they sign that paper. I'm not sure they all do that....they should. It is a grave responsibility.

Trust me, those that carry for a living have that beaten into our heads from day one.
 
Ok, so here's my take on the whole gun thing.

We've already established the dude was an absolute moron for taking it in there (especially that POS weapon which is as much a threat to the person shooting it as it is to the intended target). Furthermore, it was lost in a position that a child could have found it and, children being children, done something tragic. Heck, my five year old turns sticks into guns, if he found a real one, unattended, he might think it was one of his toys and might pull the trigger thinking nothing of it. The results could be tragic.

I'm a Firearms Instructor for a Federal Law Enforcement Agency, and have been a Firearms/Safety/Tactics Instructor for over 17 years. Most of my weapons are locked in a safe in my Garage at all times except for a shotgun and a handgun locked in a safe in my room "just in case". I've been threatened enough and have had people I've arrested show up at my house enough times that I feel the need to at least have some sort of defense nearby.

The Rifles (AR15, MK 18, .308 Remington 700--as well as my tactical shotgu n), and all but one handgun, stay in the safe and do not come inside. Period. They ride with me to work, get put back in. Or get taken to the range, cleaned outside, and put back in. That's just the way it is at my house. My family's safety is paramount to me.

In regard to CCW, I believe everyone should learn to shoot and be able to defend themselves, and I strongly believe in a non restricted view of the 2nd Amendment. Should there be disqualifiers for Felons, drug addicts, mentally ill...ABSOLUTELY.

I believe if you purchase a weapon, you should be required to complete a 30 day training course with a CERTIFIED Instructor prior to being allowed to carry it on your person. I'm not talking about these one day, fly by night places that have the bare minimum for each State's CCW law. Not all places are like that, but when I teach it, the class is 30 days (not all day) and by the time you're done, you know your stuff or I don't sign your certificate.

I could go on for hours, but I guess the bottom line is training and common sense, which ain't so common anymore....I can promise you this, the twelve inches or so between your ears are far more important than weapon caliber or type of ammo.

Want to know the value of a millisecond? Ask the guy who finished second in a gunfight. We're trained to keep our wits while everyone else is losing theirs. This is no one way range---it's great that you can shoot a bullseye all day long at the range.....how do you shoot when that paper target is shooting back at you?

Anyone feel comfortable drawing their weapon in a panicked Disney Crowd to respond to a shooter? When you are there with your family? While women, children and others are running around between you and him screaming/crying and what not.

So you draw your weapon and fire from 25 yards away? How good are you at 25 yards? What happens next if you miss, or even if you hit (Magic rounds that pick bad guys up off their feet and slam them dead to the ground only happen in Hollywood....)? Guess who they're going to start shooting at next?

You prepared? Mentally?

If you've taken that responsibility on yourself you better be!

When you're on vacation and you're "turned off"? I'm not. At Disney I'm in my happy zone...I am in no way shape or form in the same mindset I have at work....heck, I don't have that same mindset at home. Home is home.

So I guess, yes I think CCW is a good thing. People just have to realize that they taken on significant responsiblities when they sign that paper. I'm not sure they all do that....they should. It is a grave responsibility.

Trust me, those that carry for a living have that beaten into our heads from day one.


That, my friend, should be posted on every gun thread that comes up on this board.

Well said!
 
Ok, so here's my take on the whole gun thing.

We've already established the dude was an absolute moron for taking it in there (especially that POS weapon which is as much a threat to the person shooting it as it is to the intended target). Furthermore, it was lost in a position that a child could have found it and, children being children, done something tragic. Heck, my five year old turns sticks into guns, if he found a real one, unattended, he might think it was one of his toys and might pull the trigger thinking nothing of it. The results could be tragic.

I'm a Firearms Instructor for a Federal Law Enforcement Agency, and have been a Firearms/Safety/Tactics Instructor for over 17 years. Most of my weapons are locked in a safe in my Garage at all times except for a shotgun and a handgun locked in a safe in my room "just in case". I've been threatened enough and have had people I've arrested show up at my house enough times that I feel the need to at least have some sort of defense nearby.

The Rifles (AR15, MK 18, .308 Remington 700--as well as my tactical shotgu n), and all but one handgun, stay in the safe and do not come inside. Period. They ride with me to work, get put back in. Or get taken to the range, cleaned outside, and put back in. That's just the way it is at my house. My family's safety is paramount to me.

In regard to CCW, I believe everyone should learn to shoot and be able to defend themselves, and I strongly believe in a non restricted view of the 2nd Amendment. Should there be disqualifiers for Felons, drug addicts, mentally ill...ABSOLUTELY.

I believe if you purchase a weapon, you should be required to complete a 30 day training course with a CERTIFIED Instructor prior to being allowed to carry it on your person. I'm not talking about these one day, fly by night places that have the bare minimum for each State's CCW law. Not all places are like that, but when I teach it, the class is 30 days (not all day) and by the time you're done, you know your stuff or I don't sign your certificate.

I could go on for hours, but I guess the bottom line is training and common sense, which ain't so common anymore....I can promise you this, the twelve inches or so between your ears are far more important than weapon caliber or type of ammo.

Want to know the value of a millisecond? Ask the guy who finished second in a gunfight. We're trained to keep our wits while everyone else is losing theirs. This is no one way range---it's great that you can shoot a bullseye all day long at the range.....how do you shoot when that paper target is shooting back at you?

Anyone feel comfortable drawing their weapon in a panicked Disney Crowd to respond to a shooter? When you are there with your family? While women, children and others are running around between you and him screaming/crying and what not.

So you draw your weapon and fire from 25 yards away? How good are you at 25 yards? What happens next if you miss, or even if you hit (Magic rounds that pick bad guys up off their feet and slam them dead to the ground only happen in Hollywood....)? Guess who they're going to start shooting at next?

You prepared? Mentally?

If you've taken that responsibility on yourself you better be!

When you're on vacation and you're "turned off"? I'm not. At Disney I'm in my happy zone...I am in no way shape or form in the same mindset I have at work....heck, I don't have that same mindset at home. Home is home.

So I guess, yes I think CCW is a good thing. People just have to realize that they taken on significant responsiblities when they sign that paper. I'm not sure they all do that....they should. It is a grave responsibility.

Trust me, those that carry for a living have that beaten into our heads from day one.



Well said!
 
Ok, so here's my take on the whole gun thing.

We've already established the dude was an absolute moron for taking it in there (especially that POS weapon which is as much a threat to the person shooting it as it is to the intended target). Furthermore, it was lost in a position that a child could have found it and, children being children, done something tragic. Heck, my five year old turns sticks into guns, if he found a real one, unattended, he might think it was one of his toys and might pull the trigger thinking nothing of it. The results could be tragic.

I'm a Firearms Instructor for a Federal Law Enforcement Agency, and have been a Firearms/Safety/Tactics Instructor for over 17 years. Most of my weapons are locked in a safe in my Garage at all times except for a shotgun and a handgun locked in a safe in my room "just in case". I've been threatened enough and have had people I've arrested show up at my house enough times that I feel the need to at least have some sort of defense nearby.

The Rifles (AR15, MK 18, .308 Remington 700--as well as my tactical shotgu n), and all but one handgun, stay in the safe and do not come inside. Period. They ride with me to work, get put back in. Or get taken to the range, cleaned outside, and put back in. That's just the way it is at my house. My family's safety is paramount to me.

In regard to CCW, I believe everyone should learn to shoot and be able to defend themselves, and I strongly believe in a non restricted view of the 2nd Amendment. Should there be disqualifiers for Felons, drug addicts, mentally ill...ABSOLUTELY.

I believe if you purchase a weapon, you should be required to complete a 30 day training course with a CERTIFIED Instructor prior to being allowed to carry it on your person. I'm not talking about these one day, fly by night places that have the bare minimum for each State's CCW law. Not all places are like that, but when I teach it, the class is 30 days (not all day) and by the time you're done, you know your stuff or I don't sign your certificate.

I could go on for hours, but I guess the bottom line is training and common sense, which ain't so common anymore....I can promise you this, the twelve inches or so between your ears are far more important than weapon caliber or type of ammo.

Want to know the value of a millisecond? Ask the guy who finished second in a gunfight. We're trained to keep our wits while everyone else is losing theirs. This is no one way range---it's great that you can shoot a bullseye all day long at the range.....how do you shoot when that paper target is shooting back at you?

Anyone feel comfortable drawing their weapon in a panicked Disney Crowd to respond to a shooter? When you are there with your family? While women, children and others are running around between you and him screaming/crying and what not.

So you draw your weapon and fire from 25 yards away? How good are you at 25 yards? What happens next if you miss, or even if you hit (Magic rounds that pick bad guys up off their feet and slam them dead to the ground only happen in Hollywood....)? Guess who they're going to start shooting at next?

You prepared? Mentally?

If you've taken that responsibility on yourself you better be!

When you're on vacation and you're "turned off"? I'm not. At Disney I'm in my happy zone...I am in no way shape or form in the same mindset I have at work....heck, I don't have that same mindset at home. Home is home.

So I guess, yes I think CCW is a good thing. People just have to realize that they taken on significant responsiblities when they sign that paper. I'm not sure they all do that....they should. It is a grave responsibility.

Trust me, those that carry for a living have that beaten into our heads from day one.

Thoughtful, concise, clear, level headed…
That should be published sir.
:thumbsup2
 
Ok, so here's my take on the whole gun thing.

We've already established the dude was an absolute moron for taking it in there (especially that POS weapon which is as much a threat to the person shooting it as it is to the intended target). Furthermore, it was lost in a position that a child could have found it and, children being children, done something tragic. Heck, my five year old turns sticks into guns, if he found a real one, unattended, he might think it was one of his toys and might pull the trigger thinking nothing of it. The results could be tragic.

I'm a Firearms Instructor for a Federal Law Enforcement Agency, and have been a Firearms/Safety/Tactics Instructor for over 17 years. Most of my weapons are locked in a safe in my Garage at all times except for a shotgun and a handgun locked in a safe in my room "just in case". I've been threatened enough and have had people I've arrested show up at my house enough times that I feel the need to at least have some sort of defense nearby.

The Rifles (AR15, MK 18, .308 Remington 700--as well as my tactical shotgu n), and all but one handgun, stay in the safe and do not come inside. Period. They ride with me to work, get put back in. Or get taken to the range, cleaned outside, and put back in. That's just the way it is at my house. My family's safety is paramount to me.

In regard to CCW, I believe everyone should learn to shoot and be able to defend themselves, and I strongly believe in a non restricted view of the 2nd Amendment. Should there be disqualifiers for Felons, drug addicts, mentally ill...ABSOLUTELY.

I believe if you purchase a weapon, you should be required to complete a 30 day training course with a CERTIFIED Instructor prior to being allowed to carry it on your person. I'm not talking about these one day, fly by night places that have the bare minimum for each State's CCW law. Not all places are like that, but when I teach it, the class is 30 days (not all day) and by the time you're done, you know your stuff or I don't sign your certificate.

I could go on for hours, but I guess the bottom line is training and common sense, which ain't so common anymore....I can promise you this, the twelve inches or so between your ears are far more important than weapon caliber or type of ammo.

Want to know the value of a millisecond? Ask the guy who finished second in a gunfight. We're trained to keep our wits while everyone else is losing theirs. This is no one way range---it's great that you can shoot a bullseye all day long at the range.....how do you shoot when that paper target is shooting back at you?

Anyone feel comfortable drawing their weapon in a panicked Disney Crowd to respond to a shooter? When you are there with your family? While women, children and others are running around between you and him screaming/crying and what not.

So you draw your weapon and fire from 25 yards away? How good are you at 25 yards? What happens next if you miss, or even if you hit (Magic rounds that pick bad guys up off their feet and slam them dead to the ground only happen in Hollywood....)? Guess who they're going to start shooting at next?

You prepared? Mentally?

If you've taken that responsibility on yourself you better be!

When you're on vacation and you're "turned off"? I'm not. At Disney I'm in my happy zone...I am in no way shape or form in the same mindset I have at work....heck, I don't have that same mindset at home. Home is home.

So I guess, yes I think CCW is a good thing. People just have to realize that they taken on significant responsiblities when they sign that paper. I'm not sure they all do that....they should. It is a grave responsibility.

Trust me, those that carry for a living have that beaten into our heads from day one.

:worship::thumbsup2

If there is a clapping smilie then I missed it. That's the one I really want to use here.
 
Really?

I was afraid it might be a little over the top.

I have a field day with the armchair/internet commandos who insist that "One Concealed Weapons Permit holder could have stopped the Aurora movie theater shooter"...

Really? Facts and reality tell me otherwise.

Sadly though, I think in other recent scenarios (mainly Newtown), a competent CCW Holder may (STRONG emphasis on MAY) have made a difference.
 
Really?

I was afraid it might be a little over the top.

I have a field day with the armchair/internet commandos who insist that "One Concealed Weapons Permit holder could have stopped the Aurora movie theater shooter"...

Really? Facts and reality tell me otherwise.

Sadly though, I think in other recent scenarios (mainly Newtown), a competent CCW Holder may (STRONG emphasis on MAY) have made a difference.


I had a huge argument on the Community Board with somene about that a few years ago. She seemed to think that incidents that had happened here in Canada could have been prevented if someone had simply had a gun. She couldn't even get it through her head that we are not allowed to carry guns.
 
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