DIS Dads DDC XV - We put the "FUN" in dysfunctional! Christopher's thread...

[stopher1]

It never hurts to ask! One of the dads is actually helping me out this summer.

 

[Turkey Lurkey]

It never hurts to ask! One of the dads is actually helping me out this summer.

Don't you have to be a DVC member to use the points though?


TL

 

[stopher1]

Don't you have to be a DVC member to use the points though?


TL

No.

DVC members can make reservations for others. Often times this is accomplished either by renting out points to cover a reservation for friends or associates, or sometimes even by being very generous and just giving the use of those points away.

Those points, when used by others, are nothing more than a reservation like any other reservation made within the DVC system - except that the perks that come along with membership aren't able to be used by the non-member. (i.e. Annual Pass discounts, TIW cards, % off this or that throughout the World or the Land.)

 

[IamTrike]

Don't take it as gospel, but watching their trends, and understanding which properties would be viable to add a DVC component to, along with other pieces of the puzzle that I may or may not have additional knowledge of and wouldn't divulge for numerous fears of damnation and doom by those who I am friends with, it is very, very likely to be the next WDW location announced. In a number of years to come. But that's all I'm willing to say. And with that I'll then do this...

I think Disney has their terrestrial resorts covered. They need to keep up with places like Dubai and build a Hydropolis style hotel under Bay Lake or they could keep with the up theme and build a "spirit of adventure" Dirigible hotel. However if they decide to build a Zeppelin hotel it'd be best to host the campfire sing along on the ground.

 

[stopher1]

A lot of people actually rent points first, before buying, to kind of "try it on for size", if you will. Kind of a way to determine if the resorts are to their liking, or if the program will work for them. It doesn't work for everyone - it IS a timeshare, afterall.

 

[stopher1]

However if they decide to build a Zeppelin hotel it'd be best to host the campfire sing along on the ground.

Amen to that!

 

[Turkey Lurkey]

A lot of people actually rent points first, before buying, to kind of "try it on for size", if you will. Kind of a way to determine if the resorts are to their liking, or if the program will work for them. It doesn't work for everyone - it IS a timeshare, afterall.

At the very least, maybe I can rent a DVC owner pin/hat/whatever so that the DVC sellers stop hassling us everytime we walk by.


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[stopher1]

In one week, I'll be getting ready to board my first plane heading west.

This is on my horizon...

I can't wait.

I posted a new offer on my FB page about this little place that was just announced today - and it got me all hyped up about being there.

Don't worry - I'll be sure to post a few pictures while there.

 

[stopher1]

At the very least, maybe I can rent a DVC owner pin/hat/whatever so that the DVC sellers stop hassling us everytime we walk by.
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Even before we finally bought, I would walk right up to them, ask about their pins, and collect any stickers they had - before they started their pitch. It kind of put them off kilter, and then I didn't have to be hassled. Even now before they say anything (when I go to look at their pins or get their stickers) I just tell them where we own and it stops them dead in their tracks. Of course then we just talk about the resorts and other DVC "stuff" - but it was always fun to deflate their pitch.

 

[afwdwfan]

Don't worry - I'll be sure to post a few pictures while there.

Just a few...

 

[IamTrike]

I started reading through my christmas present, a book on imagineering titled:

Walt Disney Imagineering: A Behind the Dreams Look at Making More Magic Real.

The kids have loved looking through it as there are beautiful pictures and sketches all throughout, but I am taking my time reading about the process behind imagineering.

Early on in the book they discuss Mickey's 10 commandments, a set of guiding principles that have become that basis for much of the work currently being done in the amusement park industry. As a product manager what was interesting to me was how applicable most of these are to the design of any great product and not just building amusement parks. I know a bunch of you are building your own businesses and I thought these would be pretty appropriate for you. Most of you have probably seen these, but for those that haven't here they are:

Mickey's 10 Commandments

1. Know your audience - Don't bore people, talk down to them or lose them by assuming that they know what you know.

2. Wear your guest's shoes - Insist that designers, staff and your board members experience your facility as visitors as often as possible.

3. Organize the flow of people and ideas - Use good story telling techniques, tell good stories not lectures, lay out your exhibit with a clear logic.

4. Create a weenie - Lead visitors from one area to another by creating visual magnets and giving visitors rewards for making the journey

5. Communicate with visual literacy - Make good use of all the non-verbal ways of communication - color, shape, form, texture.

6. Avoid overload - Resist the temptation to tell too much, to have too many objects, don't force people to swallow more than they can digest, try to stimulate and provide guidance to those who want more.

7. Tell one story at a time - If you have a lot of information divide it into distinct, logical, organized stories, people can absorb and retain information more clearly if the path to the next concept is clear and logical.

8. Avoid contradiction - Clear institutional identity helps give you the competitive edge. Public needs to know who you are and what differentiates you from other institutions they may have seen.

9. For every ounce of treatment , provide a ton of fun - How do you woo people from all other temptations? Give people plenty of opportunity to enjoy themselves by emphasizing ways that let people participate in the experience and by making your environment rich and appealing to all senses.

10. Keep it up - Never underestimate the importance of cleanliness and routine maintenance, people expect to get a good show every time, people will comment more on broken and dirty stuff.

Martin Sklar, Walt Disney Imagineering,

 

[AirGoofy]

Wonder if others will, too

I saw it. Got 16 ready?

On the plus side it is inexpensive jewelry.

There's something.

Cleaned out the garage this weekend... and bought all new garage cabinets. Figured if I'm going to get organized, it's time to invest in good storage. Ended up buying a line of cabinets made by Kobalt (made in USA) from Lowes. These things are heavy duty! Unfortunately, according to the instruction book, they take about 3 1/2 hours to put together.... EACH. And I bought 8 units.

My solution is to do a yard sale and sell stuff. Stuff better fit or it gets sold.

 

[Turkey Lurkey]

Even before we finally bought, I would walk right up to them, ask about their pins, and collect any stickers they had - before they started their pitch. It kind of put them off kilter, and then I didn't have to be hassled. Even now before they say anything (when I go to look at their pins or get their stickers) I just tell them where we own and it stops them dead in their tracks. Of course then we just talk about the resorts and other DVC "stuff" - but it was always fun to deflate their pitch.

It actually wasn't too bad the last time we went, the only time we were even spoken to by a DVC salesperson was at ASMu, and then all she did was ask us where we were from and gave DD a ream of stickers. Not even an attempt at a pitch.

Back in 04 though, that was bad, they were hyping up their Boardwalk DVC at the time. Anytime we came within 20 feet of one of those kiosks we were assaulted. Universal was bad on that trip too. We had one guy at Universal try to get us to go to a information meeting before we headed to the airport. "We can set you up for a meeting tomorrow!" "We're leaving tomorrow." "Morning or afternoon? Cause it won't take long!"


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[Captain_Oblivious]

I started reading through my christmas present, a book on imagineering titled:

Walt Disney Imagineering: A Behind the Dreams Look at Making More Magic Real.

Good stuff! Let me know what you think of the book.

You also forgot:

11. Sell Dole Whips.

 

[AirGoofy]

It actually wasn't too bad the last time we went, the only time we were even spoken to by a DVC salesperson was at ASMu, and then all she did was ask us where we were from and gave DD a ream of stickers. Not even an attempt at a pitch.

TL

If you do the pitch, then you might some extra FPs. We don't do the tours as DVC owners, but we still go to Welcome Home Wednesdays at the Bpardwalk, a game show sales pitch for DVC, drink our "free" lemonade, eat cracker jacks, and get a free hat. My dd even did an audience answer question and won a pin. They have a room open to tour which we enjoy the walk thru. TOTWL had one for awhile with FP. I want to add more DVC points, but am waiting for the right resale contract at BLT.

 

[IamTrike]

A lot of people actually rent points first, before buying, to kind of "try it on for size", if you will. Kind of a way to determine if the resorts are to their liking, or if the program will work for them. It doesn't work for everyone - it IS a timeshare, afterall.

Yeah but it's the happiest time share on earth.

Good stuff! Let me know what you think of the book.

You also forgot:

11. Sell Dole Whips.

I'm pretty sure that's implied.
It's impressive that there weren't any weenie jokes.

It actually wasn't too bad the last time we went, the only time we were even spoken to by a DVC salesperson was at ASMu, and then all she did was ask us where we were from and gave DD a ream of stickers. Not even an attempt at a pitch.

Back in 04 though, that was bad, they were hyping up their Boardwalk DVC at the time. Anytime we came within 20 feet of one of those kiosks we were assaulted. Universal was bad on that trip too. We had one guy at Universal try to get us to go to a information meeting before we headed to the airport. "We can set you up for a meeting tomorrow!" "We're leaving tomorrow." "Morning or afternoon? Cause it won't take long!"


TL

We didn't have any issues with that on this past trip. We did however approach one at POR to get some stickers to use to tape stuff to a friends door.

 

[Cinderella's Fella]

Even before we finally bought, I would walk right up to them, ask about their pins, and collect any stickers they had - before they started their pitch. It kind of put them off kilter, and then I didn't have to be hassled. Even now before they say anything (when I go to look at their pins or get their stickers) I just tell them where we own and it stops them dead in their tracks. Of course then we just talk about the resorts and other DVC "stuff" - but it was always fun to deflate their pitch.

Now that the thread is named for you, are you going to go AWOL like Dave did?

 

[AirGoofy]

Now that the thread is named for you, are you going to go AWOL like Dave did?

Since there is a new title, are you going to declare another race to the end? I hope were not going down that road again.

 

[afwdwfan]

I started reading through my christmas present, a book on imagineering titled:

Walt Disney Imagineering: A Behind the Dreams Look at Making More Magic Real.

Sounds very interesting... might have to look into it for myself.

4. Create a weenie - Lead visitors from one area to another by creating visual magnets and giving visitors rewards for making the journey

He said weenie.

I'm pretty sure that's implied.
It's impressive that there weren't any weenie jokes.

Oh, come on. Who would joke about that? That's just immature.

 

[Cinderella's Fella]

Since there is a new title, are you going to declare another race to the end? I hope were not going down that road again.

Norm, I like you, and more than that I respect you. So I will honor your wishes and I will not call for a race to the finish on this thread! (It's not like you guys need me to do that,)