DCL limited edition pins

rae519

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Has anyone else had the experience of standing in a long line waiting to buy just ONE special DCL limited edition pin and been told that they were all sold out? (And how smug the person who bought the last four in front of me was when I got to the counter and heard that - yes, I was offered the pin at TWICE the price from her and by the way, she is a well known person on this board!!!) Did I buy it? HAH! It did show me what type of person she really was though!

Apparently, some cruise guests purchase multiple pins to resell on e-bay and this leaves others without. Yes, everyone has to make that buck - but is DCL being fair when it comes to these pins?

Couldn't DCL change their policy so that the pins are offered "one per stateroom" then after a certain time, be offered "as many as you want to buy"?

Any thoughts?

Rae
 
A couple of years ago when I was on the Disney Magic, a Artist Choice Limited Edition was first sold on our cruise. DCL made it clear that there was a limit of two of these pins to a state room. Not sure if they have changed their policy on this if the other person bought four.
 
I have also witnessed the "UGLY SIDE" of these pin traders. (BTW it wasn't on a cruise, it was in the parks) I believe she was also a DisBoard member but not positive. I won't go into details but it left a very bad taste in my mouth! I just kept telling DD that "God Will Punish this Person for her ill doing!"

It's acts like these that really make you think! For some of us it's just a nice pasttime but others make it into a business!

Luckily, we have come across more good the evil!

I guess some people just don't know the meaning of sharing!

Scratch


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I think because of the popularity of DCL and the pins...the limited edition size should be increased so that more people have a chance to get these pins.

Also...instead of releasing the entire amount on one cruise...release a certain amount on each cruise for that month.

We were on the September cruise...the pins were released on a Wednesday, we sailed the following Saturday. I thought great, I may have a chance, finally. I went to the cart and was told, they sold out the Friday night. I couldn't believe it, since there is one person in particular who sells 15-30 each of the artist choice pins per month on E***. Very upsetting.
 

I've seen this problem too. I'm not much of a trader - more a collector. In 2002 we were at Disneyland for a long weekend and happened to be there for California Adventure's 1st birthday. So needless to say I wanted a pin to remember it by. Couldn't get near the carts. Finally found one with only 10 people in line at the back of the park and had to listen to the people in front of me talk about all the money they were going to make on ebay because they were going from cart to cart buying the max.

Before the first Western I asked on both this board and the collector's board if anyone would pick me up a pin. No one offered at all. When they came back I saw many posts about people making big bucks on eBay with the pins. I got one e-mail from a gentleman making very rude remarks about us making a "special deal" - yuck! I finally did get that pin with a trade to someone special.

Like everything else in life there are good pin traders and bad pin traders.

One last pin story - on our Wonder cruise last year I went to the pin cart the first night and after getting pushed around for 15 minutes gave up. In talking with a very special cast member the next day he asked if I was into pins and if I had picked up the special ones from the night before. When I told my story he told me to come back that night as they were still available. When I showed up he saw me - got me the pins I wanted and even pointed out another that I should get that I hadn't even seen. Saw him about an hour later and he gave me a few of the castmember free pins from the Wonder. He's my pin angel!
 
I guess we all have to remember that "every dog will have his day" and we do outnumber those greedy people.

I'm not a pin trader but I do like pins that signify the place I was at or something special.

Is it really too much to ask Disney to start limiting the number and making the playing field fair for everyone?

I think not!

What say you DCL????


Rae
 
We are not BIG pin traders but have about 12 cruise pins and about 20 other pins to trade.

My kids (7 and 10) are planning to find pins that remind them of our cruise. Will they be able to find any cruise pins to trade? I think they are planning on trading with CMs as they are a little shy. This thread is making me nervous that this will NOT be a good experience for them. Any suggestions for when to go to the shops or where to look for CMs with pins?? Help:confused: They are really looking forward to this part of our cruise.. They are not planning on buying any pins......let's see how long that lasts:hyper:
 
They are fabulous when it comes to trading with the Kids! (Even the big Ones!LOL)
Just have them remember to say the "Magic" Words!

Please and Thank You!

The CMs are the ones that make up for the non-Disney like behaviour of the very few and far between, scrupulous traders/collectors. It's because of these CM's that DD still wants to do Pin Trade! We do it for pure pleasure! Not profit!

As far as you saying you won't buy any pins, don't count on it!LOL That's what I said, DD now has a Book and a BackPack!

:rolleyes:

Happy Trading!

Scratch
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Excuse my ignorance on this subject, but what is the point of collecting pins on EBAY? Isn't the point of collecting to have pins of place you've actually been to? Is there any value to most of the pins?

The only reason I ask is because after going on the Backstage Pass tour at WDW we were given pins which the CM said could be sold to pay for our children's college education (kidding, I'm sure!). When I checked on EBAY, they sell for a couple of bucks - I don't think that'll buy a pencil for college!

When we go to a new park, we get a pin. I just thought it was fun.
 
I got mine limited edition pin on the cruise. when i read it some where it sold out.
 
sounds like insensitivity....I always ask about LE pins for my DS, 7 who collects DCL pins on all our cruises, and always hear, "sorry, sold out"....it's amazing how little these people actually make selling LE pins on ebay vs the time and effort to start and monitor an auction, as well as ship the merchandise....
 
Originally posted by kasar
Excuse my ignorance on this subject, but what is the point of collecting pins on EBAY? Isn't the point of collecting to have pins of place you've actually been to? Is there any value to most of the pins? ....... When we go to a new park, we get a pin. I just thought it was fun.
I'm with you! :D
The pins I have on my lanyard are ones that are special to me. I bought them, was given them as gifts or traded for them. To have a pin from an event I did not attend would not be as meaningful to me.

What bothered me was that on the Halloween Cruise 2002 there was a special pin. There was no announcement of what day it would be released so some people never knew. They thought they would be informed. But other people stood in line and got their two and then stood in line again, or had other family members stand in line to get more.

Some members of our DIS group did not get any pins because of these greedy ones. We ate lunch with one of them one day, and she was bragging that she bought 16. She would only sell them on the ship for $50 but even then was not excited to do so as she could trade them on line with people from France and Japan and get several foreign Disney pins for each Halloween Cruiser pin.

I wonder if these pins will soon be as valuable as the Beanie Babies everyone was nuts about a few years ago. Now some collectors have boxes of stuffed bears that no one cares about and no one will buy from them for any amount of money. Maybe that is how "they will get theirs."

I agree with Rae--pins should go to cruisers first.
How about two vouchers in each stateroom? or as many vouchers as there are guests?
These would permit the people to buy pins. Only when vouchers were turned in by people not wanting to buy them, would those pins be released for sale.
OR
How about the pins being placed in the rooms and if someone does not want theirs, they can sell them (at inflated prices??) to the "traders"??


Jan :earsgirl:
 
I'm one of those people. You know, a pin trader. This is my take on it.

The lowest edition size that DCL releases on a cruise is 750 (unless something special is going on, sometimes they have 500's). That's 375 pins per ship. If each person who buys pins ahead of you buys 4 (it is limited to 2 pins per person per day... the only way someone would be able to buy 16 pins in one day is if they ahd 7 other people with them) then 93 people would have to all buy 4 pins ahead of you before they run out. It's my experience that not that many people on a regular cruise buy pins (not counting a pin cruise, where apparently all hell broke loose). We buy lots of LE pins on our Disney cruises because we have cruised once a year for the past few years and basically they keep us in "good" traders for the next year or so and we are able to trade for just about everything we want.

On our NYE cruise, they STILL had the thanksgiving pins (LE 750), the christmas pins (LE 1000) and of course the NYE and NY Day pins (LE 1000). They had those all 4 nights of the cruise. They also had some other LE 750 pins left over from a mid-november pin event. I've been on board when some pretty special and hard to find pins have been released and I've never seen a single pin sell out over the course of an entire cruise (whether it be a 4 day or a 7 day), let alone the first hour of pin trading on the first night.

My thought is that if it's a pin you want, be there at 7:30 on the first night. If there is really a line of 100 people ahead of you buying 4 pins each and they completely sell out before you get to the front of a huge line, then I can see the complaint, but I've never seen that happen (though I haven't been on every cruise). My guess is that more often than not (except of there are a large number of pin traders on a particular cruise) that there are enough pins to go around. I'm not going to limit my pin buying in case someone else might want that pin later in the cruise. However, if I were in line ahead of someone and bought the last 4 pins and the person behind me wanted one to keep for themselves, I would return one pin so they could buy it or sell it to them for cost.

Just my $.02 (all I can afford after buying pins on our last cruise!)

Lisa
 
LISA: When did you take the neat picture with Figment???

One of my best friends is a pin trader!! She has a collection that is amazing and needs a suitcase to hold them all. I have nothing against pin trading, I just wish that the people on the cruise who would like a momento had first crack at it.

Your pin buying experiences on the DCL do not mesh with mine or Rae's. Maybe we hit it differently because we were talking about the Halloween Cruise and perhaps children were more interested. I don't know.

The problems we encountered were:
Some DIS cruisers asked which night the Halloween pin would be released and were not told a date. That meant they would have had to stand in line to ask each night and their kids wanted to be elsewhere.
We happened to be in line the right night and got ours.
The lady who bragged about having 16 Halloween Cruiser pins to trade with contacts in Japan and France had several members of her family in line with her buying pins as I understand.

What bugged me most was that when I asked if she would consider selling one of her pins to a friend who wanted one for her daughter, she said she would only sell it for "$50 maybe but maybe not" as she wanted to trade for the foreign pins and could get 5 or 10 pins for one Halloween Cruiser pin. Her reply and tone of voice amazed my pin trading buddy who was on the Halloween 2002 cruise with us, our DHs and me .

Jan :earsgirl:
 
Jan,

That picture was taken on my honeymoon in 1998 when the "old" imagination ride was still in place (and dreamfinder was still a part of it). That was the ONLY character that we really took the time to meet and it was serendipity, he was just standing near the exit when we got off the ride and no one else was around. DH snapped off a few pictures. We got a new scanner and DH was testing it out and used that picture and put it into the lightbulb. I liked it so much I figured I'd use it here!

Last year was a weird pin year for us. We went on the first 7 day cruise after the NYE cruise in 2003 and were able to get the Christmas 2002 pin as well as the NYE 2002/2003 pin and the artist choice pin that they released on that cruise, so it definately seemed like things were holding over from previous cruises. Then it just so happened that friends of ours went on the DVC member cruise and they had valentine's day pins left over as well as pins from the AP cruise at the end of January, so they bought some of those for us (again leftover from previous cruises). My inlaws took a 4 day wonder cruise that included halloween, and they were able to get halloween pins for us (and said there was no line and it was no problem). Then we took the NYE 4 day wonder cruise this year and like I said, we were able to get pins from thanksgiving, christmas in addition to the NYE, plus some older LE 750 pins that I wasn't really familiar with. So from my experience and experience of friends and family who cruised this past year, a pin selling out the first night before everone in line has a chance to buy at least one is the exception and not the rule. In fact, every single time we and friends of ours have cruised, pins have been held over at least one if not two cruises.

I guess I just get a little defensive when people talk about "those" pin traders. We enjoy pin trading a lot. Sometimes we have even purchased a pin that we really like off of ebay because we find it impossible to trade for, because we collect a certain character and it would go perfectly in a set. We don't sell pins on ebay because I prefer to use them for trading, but there wouldn't be anything wrong with it even if we DID sell pins on ebay. Many collectors/traders do that to offset the expense of the hobby (which can be considerable).

Someone who is trying to scalp pins right there on the ship is the exception and not the norm. My guess is that if there were THAT many pin traders on board that the pins sold out the first night, if you asked around a bit during pin trading nights (and if people are that into pins, they will be out pin trading in the atrium from 7:30-8:30) that someone who has extras would be willing to sell/trade one to you reasonably (ie for cost). Most pin people are good people, especially where kids are concerned. We keep a whole book of pins that we are willing to trade with just kids so that there is no confusion about them asking for a super valuable pin and this way we can treat it like a CM trade and trade whatever they want for whatever they have.

The two per person rule just seems to work really well most of the time, and my guess is that disney would rather have people buy the pins then have them sit on the rack the first night because the people who want them can only buy one per stateroom rather than 2 per person. I've also never had to wait in line just to see if a pin was available. Generally you can walk right up to the pin cart and take a look and see what is there without waiting in line (of course you have to wait in line to buy). Like I said, I'm no expert, but around most of the major holidays at least this past year, there has been plenty of availibity in pins.

Lisa
 
There are always those that spoil a good thing, or abuse the system. Can't let it get you down - easier said than done... Just wondering, do CMs trade cruise pins or just the regular Mickey pins?
 
do CMs trade cruise pins or just the regular Mickey pins?

Yes they do. Often it is in a private capacity and not from their lanyard that they wear as a CM.

HBC
 
Lisa F - I do not begrudge a person's ability to buy to sell/trade/make a profit/enjoy a hobby, it's the unfair way the pin sales are handled by DCL and the greed that comes with limited editions sold that way - that is what I find offensive.

My limited experience with pins has been - buy what means something to you or trade a Castaway Club pin for it at the parks. I only wanted to get Michael a Halloween 2003 cruise pin for his small collection. For whatever reason the situation happened to me, it did and "one bad apple does not poison the whole bushel" in my opinion.

Enjoy your trading and hopefully someday I will find a person as sincere as you are who would have this pin and be willing to trade for something I have (probably not a Castaway Club pin though!!!!)

Rae
 
I think when it comes to the limited edition pins offered while on the ship, a card should be put in the stateroom notifying guests to go to guest services to purchase - limit 1 per cabin #. They can control it there. If excess inventory is available, it will be offered for purchase at the pin cart on Fri. evening of the cruise.

This way everyone can get at least one for a keepsake if they want it. The greedy people can fight over what's left at the end of the week.

On the 2000 Halloween cruise they gave away these tiny little pumpkin pins with DCL & 1st 7 day Halloween cruise on a banner. They didn't announce it & gave them to each child that came to the Studio Sea party. You should have seen some of these people trying to get more of them, arguing & yelling at CMs- it was horrible. They stuck to their guns- 1 per child. Turns out that is one of the most valuable DCL pins around, perhaps because you couldn't buy one...

My DD has been a collector before it became popular in 2000. She has some older, very valuable pins that she wouldn't trade for the world, as they are vacation keepsakes... Even she said recently it's getting worse than beanie babies, so maybe it's time to quit...

Rae~ I keep looking for one that's a deal on eBay for you... no luck yet... They are still selling for $30- 40 range....

~ Linda :boat:
 
Lisa,

You make a good point. We all often lump people into groups and there are really nice pin traders as well as those who only see it for the money to be made on eBay. I've seen both. I was very happy that I got the one pin I wanted in a trade with a very special person and I was very happy to get the help and pin from the CM.

As for those who have kids that want to trade - don't miss the one night they advertisive where the officers come to the atrium wearing their lanyards - it is great pin trading and interaction for kids of all ages.:D
 

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