DCL carry-on alcohol policy changing Sept. 30 2015

[DMMarla07860]

Cast members don't care about the policy, only those beholden to stockmembers

I don't know if cast members care about the policy, but from what some of the bartenders did tell me is true. most of them agree that it should have happened a while ago.

 

[littleblackegg]

Hmm, I happen to be a stockholder - 30 shares mind you, but a stockholder nonetheless. I wonder if I should play that angle too...

I always mention that I am a DVC member and a stockholder when I POLITELY discuss a concern. It's important they know you have skin in the game.

 

[TheLanes]

I don't know if cast members care about the policy, but from what some of the bartenders did tell me is true. most of them agree that it should have happened a while ago.

You're right, bartenders and servers care too, as they sell less drinks and make less tips from those trying to save some money by bringing their own drinks onboard.

 

[ASchwa]

Did you really just compare Disney's change in carry on alcohol to the holocaust?! Bad taste dude.

I don't know which is worse, the comparison to the alcohol policy and the Holocaust, or the enjoyment of Disney to Jim Jones in Guyana when people say we drank the Kool Aid. To give people a brief history, in November of 1978, over 900 people were found dead in a community in Guyana who were members of the People's temple. From recordings and a few eyewitnesses who survived, they had drunk Kool Aid with poison in it. It was believed that most drank willingly. What was not immediately known was that babies were injected, a few adults were tied up and injected and at least one 12 year old was forced by adults to swallow the Kool Aid after she spit it out 3 times. I understand that almost 37 years ago is ancient history to some people, but I do remember the pictures at the time and later when I studied Jim Jones and his cult.

 

[jlynch924]

"Drinking the Kool Aid" is a well- accepted euphemism for following the tide. Everyone needs to quit being so ready to be offended here. It's a discussion board, and people use quotes and terms to illustrate points, not to offend. Just chill.

 

[littleblackegg]

I don't know which is worse, the comparison to the alcohol policy and the Holocaust, or the enjoyment of Disney to Jim Jones in Guyana when people say we drank the Kool Aid. To give people a brief history, in November of 1978, over 900 people were found dead in a community in Guyana who were members of the People's temple. From recordings and a few eyewitnesses who survived, they had drunk Kool Aid with poison in it. It was believed that most drank willingly. What was not immediately known was that babies were injected, a few adults were tied up and injected and at least one 12 year old was forced by adults to swallow the Kool Aid after she spit it out 3 times. I understand that almost 37 years ago is ancient history to some people, but I do remember the pictures at the time and later when I studied Jim Jones and his cult.

Perhaps we should all agree to keep the comparisons within the scope of actual cruises, and perhaps, maybe cocktails. Avoiding anything that brings to mind mayhem, human cruelty and wearing white shoes after Labor Day should definitely be avoided. (clutches pearls)

 

[bumbershoot]

I don't know which is worse, the comparison to the alcohol policy and the Holocaust, or the enjoyment of Disney to Jim Jones in Guyana when people say we drank the Kool Aid. To give people a brief history, in November of 1978, over 900 people were found dead in a community in Guyana who were members of the People's temple. From recordings and a few eyewitnesses who survived, they had drunk Kool Aid with poison in it. It was believed that most drank willingly. What was not immediately known was that babies were injected, a few adults were tied up and injected and at least one 12 year old was forced by adults to swallow the Kool Aid after she spit it out 3 times. I understand that almost 37 years ago is ancient history to some people, but I do remember the pictures at the time and later when I studied Jim Jones and his cult.

Thank you thank you thank you. That one just jolts me every time. I can still remember seeing the news in passing as a kid and not comprehending it at all, but learning about it more later.


I think it's interesting how many people had paraphrased they "they'll come for you" bit before yesterday in this thread, but yesterday was the first time people really noticed it.

 

[perditax]

Wow, I just almost let myself participate in this latest tangent.

I'm going to go re-watch Arrow season 1 instead.

That was a close one.

 

[Hernandez Family Cruisers]

I never brought hard alcohol on board, but did bring a case every trip. NO ONE EVER TOLD ME I CANT CARRY MY BOTTLE ON DECK OR IN A SHOW. If they did I would have started to pour the contents in a cup.

WANT TO BET DISNEY BANDS ALL ALCOHOL CARRY ON AT SOME POINT????

This is why I can't wrap my head around the argument that the policy was changed due to abuse (ex, consuming alcohol/wine/beer you brought on outside of your stateroom). Under the new policy drinking your brought on drinks (wine/beer) will be just as easy to do and hard to "police" as it was before. Limiting what people can bring on will not change that! People will still pour themselves a glass of wine to take to dinner or the show or bring their beer to the pool because it's too hard to call someone out on that!

 

[pag23]

The new alcohol policy is better then some cruise lines worst then others, I would just like to see a better wine package offered, the wines DISNEY offers just arent that great for the price charged. The new corking fee is nuts I dont bring any alcohol on board but I can see why people do. So its a choice we each have to make. I have my 7th disney cruise coming up OCTOBER, it will be the last for a long time paying a third to half more just isnt worth it to my family any more.

 

[ASchwa]

"Drinking the Kool Aid" is a well- accepted euphemism for following the tide. Everyone needs to quit being so ready to be offended here. It's a discussion board, and people use quotes and terms to illustrate points, not to offend. Just chill.

Maybe it shouldn't be an accepted euphemism. Did you know the history behind this euphemism? Have you seen the pictures? Why not, in keeping with the Disney theme say that they were following Mary Poppins, A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down. I have kept my silence through plenty of posts saying drank the Kool Aid even though it jolted me everytime I saw it. There was even a thread with Drank the Kool Aid in the title. You can illustrate points using different words, and learn what is behind the phrases that come into being. As for phrases for following the tide, there are plenty that have no death implied.

 

[DMMarla07860]

You're right, bartenders and servers care too, as they sell less drinks and make less tips from those trying to save some money by bringing their own drinks onboard.

yup they do, that's why I can't feel too bad about the policy, if you think about it. I can see both sides of it. My dad brought alcohol on, but also buys drinks and tips, like I am sure many others here do, but then there might be the ones who don't. But knowing bartenders/servers, etc. I just step back real quick and thing would I bring alcohol to dinner on land unless it say BYOB, so really I do see both ways it works.

 

[DMMarla07860]

Does anyone know how this policy compares to NCL alcohol policy? Not that I will be bringing any on. I like to try the special drinks then waste money on beer on land, but that's me. Just wondering what you can carry for that line

 

[wilkeliza]

Does anyone know how this policy compares to NCL alcohol policy? Not that I will be bringing any on. I like to try the special drinks then waste many on beer on land, but that's me. Just wondering what you can carry for that line

NCL you can only bring on Wine and Champaign.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

Does anyone know how this policy compares to NCL alcohol policy? Not that I will be bringing any on. I like to try the special drinks then waste many on beer on land, but that's me. Just wondering what you can carry for that line

From the NCL website:

All guests are prohibited from bringing alcohol on board our ships. Please note that with the exception of Wine and Champagne, all guests are prohibited from bringing alcohol on board our ships. If you purchase any alcohol at one of our ports-of-call or in our onboard shops, we will safely store your purchase(s) and either on the final night of the cruise or the morning of debarkation it will be available for pick up in a designated area.Wine & Champagne Policy Guests may bring bottles of wine and champagne on board. When bottles are brought on board and served or consumed in any restaurant, public room area or in their stateroom, a corkage fee will be charged according to bottle sizes noted below. 750 ml Bottle: $15.00 1,500 ml Magnum: $30.00 Wine or champagne sent directly to the ship by travel agents, friends, family, etc. or from another retail source, are subject to the same fees. Box wines are not allowed on board.
http://www.ncl.com/faq#can-i-bringing-alcohol-board

So, no hard liquor. You may bring any amount of wine or champagne, but all bottles (regardless of where you consume them) are charged a corkage fee. Even gifted bottles of wine/champagne. Any alcohol (hard, wine or whatever) purchased in ports of call will be tagged and held until the end of the cruise.

 

[wilkeliza]

I think it is incredibly ridiculous NCL charges a corkage fee even for in stateroom drinking of wine and champagne.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

I think it is incredibly ridiculous NCL charges a corkage fee even for in stateroom drinking of wine and champagne.

But, it negates the policing of "where did that wine come from?" in the dining rooms. I think Princess does the same.

 

[wilkeliza]

But, it negates the policing of "where did that wine come from?" in the dining rooms. I think Princess does the same.

Point taken. I didn't even think about pouring a glass and walking it down to dinner because it wasn't something we would have ever done. Like i said both times we have taken liquor and wine on cruises we drank 0 of it because we were too busy out on deck to worry. Plus the fiance was so nervous (he was proposing that trip) that he was at the bar drinking much more expensive stuff that what we brought on haha.

 

[littleblackegg]

Maybe it shouldn't be an accepted euphemism. Did you know the history behind this euphemism? Have you seen the pictures? Why not, in keeping with the Disney theme say that they were following Mary Poppins, A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down. I have kept my silence through plenty of posts saying drank the Kool Aid even though it jolted me everytime I saw it. There was even a thread with Drank the Kool Aid in the title. You can illustrate points using different words, and learn what is behind the phrases that come into being. As for phrases for following the tide, there are plenty that have no death implied.

I do know exactly the imagery of which you speak, and how horrible it was to see all those dead people as little kids in the 1970's. News was still raw and served up uncut back then, and that was certainly no scene any child should have seen. Any of us who saw it have an almost PTSD reaction to it scratching across our memories, so I understand your feelings and know why you react so strongly to it. We are all entitled to our feelings about things we saw or experienced that were genuinely horrible.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

Wow, I just almost let myself participate in this latest tangent.

I'm going to go re-watch Arrow season 1 instead.

That was a close one.

Season 1 was good.