Dcl and no one else

[sarahandgreg]

Why is it that people cannot accept your opinions on certain things and just move on? I love DCL - I have done other cruises and not one of other the ships even come close in my opinion for quality and style. I was saying this to someone the other day (colleague) and they were flaming me for being snobby etc - I cant help it thats just my opinion, I would rather pay a bit more and get a room I like, on a ship thats not gaudy or tacky and eat decent food and for me thats DCL every time.
This is why I am a DVC member too, I like feeling that we belong in a "family" of people that are treated like friends when we arrive "home" at OKW.
Its also the reason when i travel to Las Vegas i only stay at the Wynn - its quality and I like what I like.

Sorry to rant but there I have let it out to hopefully fellow cruisers, dvcers and friends.
I am not ashamed to want and like quality when I travel - and yes I am a disney adddict - bet i am not alone

 

[PrincessTrisha]

The same reason why when someone on these boards says that another cruise or cruiseline was better than DCL, some people get all huffy and have to argue that DCL is the King.

If everyone accepted that there are different strokes for different folks, we'd all get along much better.

Some people get hung up on the idea that you must agree with them or you are wrong.

On the flip side, people also feel the need to defend what they love - you're implying that whatever cruise line they like is tacky, has bad food and gaudy ships. They also want to explain why they love their line of choice.

 

[Otimon]

No, you are not alone by any means.

Three cheers to you for standing up for what you like.

Best wishes.

 

[Brynnie]

DH always says "Hunni, Disney is the best!!". We are going on our FIRST cruise in less than 2 weeks on the Dream. The only reason I got him to try it is that it is DISNEY and we are always happy when we do anything Disney! We also enjoy quality....(we stay at the Belaggio, Venetian or Wynn in Las Vegas!!). Our friends tell us we are snobs too!!!! It's your money and your time! Life is short....enjoy what you like!!

 

[davidls]

Why is it that people cannot accept your opinions on certain things and just move on? I love DCL - I have done other cruises and not one of other the ships even come close in my opinion for quality and style. I was saying this to someone the other day (colleague) and they were flaming me for being snobby etc - I cant help it thats just my opinion, I would rather pay a bit more and get a room I like, on a ship thats not gaudy or tacky and eat decent food and for me thats DCL every time.
This is why I am a DVC member too, I like feeling that we belong in a "family" of people that are treated like friends when we arrive "home" at OKW.
Its also the reason when i travel to Las Vegas i only stay at the Wynn - its quality and I like what I like.

Sorry to rant but there I have let it out to hopefully fellow cruisers, dvcers and friends.
I am not ashamed to want and like quality when I travel - and yes I am a disney adddict - bet i am not alone

I didn't read any ranting or raving on your part. You are just telling it like it is!!! We all are Disney Addicts pretty much on here and make no bones about it. Nothing wrong with that!!! Other cruise lines and other companies have their followers and Disney has theirs. And, we are loyal to Disney.

 

[Piggeldy]

The answer is: because

Our first "real" cruise was a Hurtigruten winter cruise up the Norwegian coast (Bergen in the south to Kirkenes all the way north, near the Russian border). It was our honeymoon, thus we went for "comfort" - booked a minisuite (only pullman beds / sofabeds in "cheaper" cabins, queen beds only start at minisuite level), went for one of the newer, more "luxurious" ships (M/S Trollfjord), spent a night in a hotel before/after the trip.

Unfortunately, as soon as you join "the" Hurtigruten discussion board. That means you are a snob. From "their" view, you are only supposed to book on the old classic ships (from the 50s!) and spend your days in the least expensive inside cabin as it's all about the scenery and "the real cruising experience", not about comfort. You spend your nights in a hostel or the least expensive hotel that is to be found. Also, you have to travel during winter to experience winter storms.

"Luxury" still means no casino, no pool, two hot tubs, no roomservice, no shows (very few, very interesting lectures though), no bingo, and the minisuite most likely equals a regular ocean view cabin on most major cruiselines... and you still spend at least as much as you would for a Disney cruise (our minisuite would cost nearly $9000 in August this year, winter is a lot cheaper though). As soon as you mention that you can imagine one day traveling on a "real cruiseline"... oh well, you better don't. You snob.
[Yes yes, I am generalizing - I know! ]

I assume sometimes it's envy.
Sometimes it's the problem of not accepting that other people may have other opinions. (Tragic *sigh*)
Sometimes it's pretending to agree to what you think is expected of you (as member of the general population, not trying to stick out).
Sometimes it's making someone feel bad about their choices just to make yourself feel better.
Some people are just mean spirited.


I stopped making excuses for myself and started accepting that... I can't help it! People will always talk (and I'd rather have them talk to me then about me behind my back).

We are now looking at DCL for our next cruise. It boils down to a combination of experience/style/itinerary. I know that most of my friends/family won't understand that decision if we go through with it. I can accept that. They won't understand why Disney, why a TA, why travel to the US at all, why spend all that money just go to a nice all-inclusive resort in Turkey. Or on a nice city trip (staying in a hostel of course and don't go out for dinner!). That's the way it is. You can only make yourself happy, not everybody else.

Rant over *lol*
No really. We love to travel. We do have a lot of vacation. We don't travel much but if we do, we want to relax. I rather book a nice hotel and only travel once a year than traveling cheap five times a year. We accept everybody who wants to and we have traveled that way, too (and enjoyed it). We have seen too many people die far too young than to move everything to when we retire (in 35 years). Different people, different priorities. Each to his own.

 

[ilovetexas]

Why is it that people cannot accept your opinions on certain things and just move on? I love DCL - I have done other cruises and not one of other the ships even come close in my opinion for quality and style. I was saying this to someone the other day (colleague) and they were flaming me for being snobby etc - I cant help it thats just my opinion, I would rather pay a bit more and get a room I like, on a ship thats not gaudy or tacky and eat decent food and for me thats DCL every time.
This is why I am a DVC member too, I like feeling that we belong in a "family" of people that are treated like friends when we arrive "home" at OKW.
Its also the reason when i travel to Las Vegas i only stay at the Wynn - its quality and I like what I like.

Sorry to rant but there I have let it out to hopefully fellow cruisers, dvcers and friends.
I am not ashamed to want and like quality when I travel - and yes I am a disney adddict - bet i am not alone

You're probably getting flamed because of the WAY you're saying it, not what you're saying. I don't care that you like DCL the best, we all have our favorite lines. But it seems that a lot of people, you included considering your post, can't say that you prefer DCL without bashing other cruise lines.

Why can't you accept that other people don't like to be told that the things they like are gaudy and tacky, the food they eat isn't decent, and they settle for lower quality? It's insulting and rude and you should probably expect a reaction when you talk to/about people that way.

 

[MisterOJ]

You're probably getting flamed because of the WAY you're saying it, not what you're saying. I don't care that you like DCL the best, we all have our favorite lines. But it seems that a lot of people, you included considering your post, can't say that you prefer DCL without bashing other cruise lines.

Why can't you accept that other people don't like to be told that the things they like are gaudy and tacky, the food they eat isn't decent, and they settle for lower quality? It's insulting and rude and you should probably expect a reaction when you talk to/about people that way.

QFT

Also, every time someone suggests that they love Disney better and lists the food as one of the reasons - that makes me immediately question their taste and judgement.

Disney does a lot of things right on its cruises, but food isn't one of them. Of course, that's in my opinion.

 

[Mickeyhugger]

Why can't you accept that other people don't like to be told that the things they like are gaudy and tacky, the food they eat isn't decent, and they settle for lower quality? It's insulting and rude and you should probably expect a reaction when you talk to/about people that way.

I agree.

Not being there when you said it, it's hard to tell if you came off defensive to your colleague. Some people may not have the luxury to 'pay more for quality,' and have to settle for 'gaudy and tacky.'

 

[MisterOJ]

I agree.

Not being there when you said it, it's hard to tell if you came off defensive to your colleague. Some people may not have the luxury to 'pay more for quality,' and have to settle for 'gaudy and tacky.'

Or, there may be other reasons.

After cruising only on DCL, I never thought I'd take a cruise on Carnival. Then, there was a theme cruise my wife and I really wanted to go on. And it was on a Carnival ship. Yes, the decor left a lot to be desired in our opinion. But ya know, after a day or so, we didn't notice anymore because we were used to it.

And it wound up being more fun than any of our previous Disney cruises. And the food wound up being much better than on Disney. I don't mind admitting, I was shocked, but pleasantly so.

We still love DCL (and we have small kids after all) and we have another Disney cruise coming up. But we now realize that other lines have redeeming values too. I want to go back on Carnival sometime. And that trip has made me want to at least try other lines in the future as well.

And that's okay.

 

[Mickeyhugger]

Or, there may be other reasons.

After cruising only on DCL, I never thought I'd take a cruise on Carnival. Then, there was a theme cruise my wife and I really wanted to go on. And it was on a Carnival ship. Yes, the decor left a lot to be desired in our opinion. But ya know, after a day or so, we didn't notice anymore because we were used to it.

And it wound up being more fun than any of our previous Disney cruises. And the food wound up being much better than on Disney. I don't mind admitting, I was shocked, but pleasantly so.

We still love DCL (and we have small kids after all) and we have another Disney cruise coming up. But we now realize that other lines have redeeming values too. I want to go back on Carnival sometime. And that trip has made me want to at least try other lines in the future as well.

And that's okay.

I agree!

 

[ilovetexas]

Or, there may be other reasons.

After cruising only on DCL, I never thought I'd take a cruise on Carnival. Then, there was a theme cruise my wife and I really wanted to go on. And it was on a Carnival ship. Yes, the decor left a lot to be desired in our opinion. But ya know, after a day or so, we didn't notice anymore because we were used to it.

And it wound up being more fun than any of our previous Disney cruises. And the food wound up being much better than on Disney. I don't mind admitting, I was shocked, but pleasantly so.

We still love DCL (and we have small kids after all) and we have another Disney cruise coming up. But we now realize that other lines have redeeming values too. I want to go back on Carnival sometime. And that trip has made me want to at least try other lines in the future as well.

And that's okay.

Starting with the Magic (debut summer 2011), and now with the Breeze (debut summer 2012), Carnival is no longer using Joe Farcus to decorate its ships. He was the mastermind behind all the neon and wild colors. It'll be interesting to see the change.

 

[jlwhitney]

We all like what we like and that is just fine. We prefer DCL and have not tried other lines. Yes we may try them and like them but for now we are happy with Disney and we know we are going to like the vacation.

 

[crafty91]

ilovetexas, are you back at it again? I thought we put this to bed in a different thread.

My only question has been if you don't absolutely LOVE DCL at mostly the exclusion of other lines why are you on the DCL boards all the time just to defend other cruise lines? Why not just leave us DCL fanatics to our utopian delusions?

I say that knowing full well that one day when the kids are grown up and don't want to cruise I will probably try other lines. For me, for now, with the kids DCL is MY only option. Its not the food, or the shows, or the pools, its how i FEEL when I'm on a Disney cruise. Its not something that needs defending.

 

[magrudersmakes3]

We cruised Carnival our first time just to try cruising. It was super cheap for a weekend so we thought if we don't like it then no big loss. It was ok and we bad fun We then did Disney and now find it hard to go elsewhere. We are Disney people and we just find ourselves comparing everything to them. We have friends that love Carnival and I appreciate that, just like they appreciate we are Disney. It all boils down to what makes you happy.

 

[sarahandgreg]

Ok - I did not say to the colleague that other cruise lines were tacky, gaudy etc. I was asked "had I cruised before" and I responded with" Yes. I have - I tried carnival and then did a Disney Cruise - and the disney cruise was amazing" " Head and shoulders above in my opinion"

i was only expressing my opinion of what i felt the differences were on here.

I honestly think that if you compare the carnival fascination( I think that was the ship I went on) and the Disney Dream there is no comparison - the disney ship is spectacular to look at, as were the cabins, and the spa etc
My point is people look at you and accuse you of snobbery if you choose the finer things in life. Its the same as the whole" Disney is for kids" thing "so why do you go so often when you dont have any children" question.

just about to go on and book another disney cruise....... lol x

 

[ilovetexas]

ilovetexas, are you back at it again? I thought we put this to bed in a different thread.

My only question has been if you don't absolutely LOVE DCL at mostly the exclusion of other lines why are you on the DCL boards all the time just to defend other cruise lines? Why not just leave us DCL fanatics to our utopian delusions?

I say that knowing full well that one day when the kids are grown up and don't want to cruise I will probably try other lines. For me, for now, with the kids DCL is MY only option. Its not the food, or the shows, or the pools, its how i FEEL when I'm on a Disney cruise. Its not something that needs defending.

I'm not on the DISboards to defend my line of choice. Mostly because I don't have one. I like Carnival for price and itinerary, Celebrity for itinerary and elegance, RCI is fun for the teens, DCL has pretty ships and the Mouse. I am here to get info about the cruise line, ports of call, Palo, Remy, etc. I certainly realize that people here are Disney experts (which is why I come here to get my questions answered) and prefer DCL, which I don't have a problem with. But when "outsiders" come here to get your expertise about your favorite cruise line, it sends a pretty strong message for them to be treated to a constant barrage of insults regarding their other choices when cruising.

The OP asked why people couldn't accept her opinion. I told her that perhaps it's not her opinion people have a problem with but the way she delivered her message ("gaudy and tacky"). People don't appreciate being insulted. I'm not the only one on this thread that expressed that same thought.

OP - I just read your most recent post. I hated the Carnival Fascination. I sailed on her last June and had a miserable time and since I do like Carnival, I tried again just to give it a fair chance. Hated it the second time, too.

 

[MisterOJ]

Starting with the Magic (debut summer 2011), and now with the Breeze (debut summer 2012), Carnival is no longer using Joe Farcus to decorate its ships. He was the mastermind behind all the neon and wild colors. It'll be interesting to see the change.

Thanks. That good to know. We're in the process of starting to look at cruises for next fall and saw that Carnival will have a newly revamped 2.0 ship (I think they're calling it the Sunshine) sailing from New Orleans.

We were already leaning toward giving it a shot and if it's going to have different decor, that's another positive point for it.

 

[luv that cruise]

On the flip side, people also feel the need to defend what they love - you're implying that whatever cruise line they like is tacky, has bad food and gaudy ships. They also want to explain why they love their line of choice.

I agree with the quote above but I also agree that disney is the best!

 

[Wadekind]

ilovetexas, are you back at it again? I thought we put this to bed in a different thread.

My only question has been if you don't absolutely LOVE DCL at mostly the exclusion of other lines why are you on the DCL boards all the time just to defend other cruise lines? Why not just leave us DCL fanatics to our utopian delusions?

I say that knowing full well that one day when the kids are grown up and don't want to cruise I will probably try other lines. For me, for now, with the kids DCL is MY only option. Its not the food, or the shows, or the pools, its how i FEEL when I'm on a Disney cruise. Its not something that needs defending.

I agree with ilovetexas. This is a discussion board not a cheerleader board. I come on these boards for information and other posters real life and hopefully truthful experiences. OP's post comes off as a brag to me (only cruise DCL, only stay at Wynn and DVC member). OP also paints other cruise lines with a broad and negative stroke.

Just because someone doesn't "LOVE DCL at mostly the exclusion of other lines" doesn't mean they are bashing DCL or do not enjoy cruising with DCL. Reviews and comments made by delusional fanatics are not truthful to reality, create unrealistic expectations and cover up what may be issues for people who are more middle of the road in their views of DCL. DCL is very nice but they are not the endgame when it come to cruise lines and a discussion board will reflect this.