Daughter being made fun of....advice??

When you meet with her team at school make sure she is put on a team with her friends next year.

She needs to fireback at the kids teasing her & not be an easy target.

Give her a few jabs like I'm short your ugly we all have to live with it.

If you take the power away from the bully they move on to an easy target. Don't let her be the easy target
 
DH is halfway on board, but feels he should have his kids in public school since he's a public school teacher.

We homeschool and actually know several public school teachers and former teachers that homeschool. It really isn't like it used to be. Lots of social interaction and very few of the "Little House on The Prairie" types. Our groups have been very diverse and lots of fun.

My husband and I both work in the public school system (in both teaching and adminstration capacities), and we homeschooled our daughter. Further, a lot of that time I actually worked in the central office and regularly carried her with me to state dept. of education meetings (I know, I'm a brave sort! :rotfl2:). Interestingly enough, I never ran into a negative opinion (in fact, they always made sure she won a door prize! :thumbsup2).

Our perspective was that our first concern was our daughter - our job situation was second. Of course, only you can decide what is in the best interest of your child. Don't let homeschooling scare you though. It is work, but it's not something that you can't do and do well. Our daughter is in pharmacy school and had her undergrad degree covered completely by scholarships. You'll find that colleges are very welcoming of homeschool students.

Feel free to ask questions. There are lots of people on these boards willing to share! :goodvibes
 
When you meet with her team at school make sure she is put on a team with her friends next year.

She needs to fireback at the kids teasing her & not be an easy target.

Give her a few jabs like I'm short your ugly we all have to live with it.

If you take the power away from the bully they move on to an easy target. Don't let her be the easy target

I understand what you're saying, but I respectfully disagree. You're talking about a situation that parallels a cat surrounded by mean dogs. She can hiss and scratch to protect herself, but she's greatly out numbered.

I do think that the school could do more about it than they are doing though. As much as this happens, there should be teachers in the halls watching for it daily (after all, there are 3 children mentioned). If the OP does leave her child in school, they need to put school personnel on notice that they are responsible for providing a safe and orderly school environment for their daughter. They can wind up with problems if they don't do so (but I also know that some schools don't do their jobs either :mad:).
 

I don't think pulling her from school is the answer. What does it solve?
I think your DD needs to embrace her height and love it. If someone teases her, just say "I'm short, I like it, why do you care so much?" or "you're just jealous." If she keeps responding like that, showing that it doesn't bother her, maybe they will finally move on. I was really skinny during my teen years. I was teased a lot. While it bothered me sometimes and I once lashed out at my mom for not feeding me enough, I dealt with it at school. I came up with comebacks and I accepted who I was and just rolled my eyes when they would tease. I never once thought about leaving school because of the teasing because no matter where I went it would still happen.
 
I don't think pulling her from school is the answer. What does it solve?
I think your DD needs to embrace her height and love it. If someone teases her, just say "I'm short, I like it, why do you care so much?" or "you're just jealous." If she keeps responding like that, showing that it doesn't bother her, maybe they will finally move on. I was really skinny during my teen years. I was teased a lot. While it bothered me sometimes and I once lashed out at my mom for not feeding me enough, I dealt with it at school. I came up with comebacks and I accepted who I was and just rolled my eyes when they would tease. I never once thought about leaving school because of the teasing because no matter where I went it would still happen.

I'm the OP, and I hear what you're saying. DD gets teased at many places, my concern is the sheer quantity of people doing it now at school. She has been dealing with teasing/comments since she was 3, and has learned to ignore it, deal out witty comebacks, assertively say "OK, very funny. Now STOP it." I just think it's crossed the line with what an 11 yr old should be expected to deal with.
I thought, since she had gotten so good at telling people who just walk up and pick her up to PUT her down, etc, that she might just be alright. But apparently I either overestimated the coping skills she'd learned, or greatly underestimated the cruelty of many of my area's tweens/teens.
 
Lots of prayer, patience, and faith that your child will get through it and that you can handle it. :goodvibes
 
My two DD's had a younger boy hitting and pushing them on the bus. Normally the bus driver is pretty on top of the kids, but I guess he can't see this because they are further back in the bus. The girls tried asking him to stop and he refused saying "You're not the boss of me". Well, I know someone who is the boss of any young boy...his mother. :thumbsup2. So I called her on the phone and gave her a heads up on what was going on. She sounded like he was going to regret messing with my girls. She assured me he would be stopping the bad behavior and he would be offering an apology. He wasn't on the bus this morning or this afternoon. :lmao: I wonder if she decided carpooling would be better.

Do you know any of the parents of the kids involved? You don't have to know all of them. But if word got around that kids were getting in trouble with their parents due to the bullying it might slow down. Your daughter could have a note pad and make a big show of writing down names for her mom to randomly pick a few parents to call. Then follow through and call the ones that you know would be mortified by their child's actions and let the parents know what is going on at school. A little discipline from their parents might discourage them from repeating their behavior.

If you do call the parents, I wouldn't be confrontational. I kept my call more informational to the mom about the boy that was hitting. I said that I knew she'd want to know what was going on because she wouldn't approve of his behavior and would want to do something about it...very polite.

I know tattling to her mother won't win over any good will from the kids at school, but the situation is already so bad you don't have anything to lose.

Edited to add: I was always the shortest in my class and I was teased by the other kids for various reasons as a child. I feel your daughter's pain!
 
But apparently I either overestimated the coping skills she'd learned, or greatly underestimated the cruelty of many of my area's tweens/teens.



Even the most confident people with the highest self-esteem, and great self-concepts, have a limit.

Your daughter is being singled-out. She has lost her support system (at school), she is in a new environment with new demands and being picked on by students in mobs. The school needs to step in and break up this mob mentality. An 11 year old should NOT be expected to deal with this herself. What happens when it turns dangerously physical?

Is there any way your daughter can be transferred to the other team? The one her friends are in? It is the teacher’s and administration’s responsibility to make the school a safe place for everyone. It does not sound like they are even trying for your daughter.

Also, make sure your daughter knows this is not her fault. (I know it seems obvious but many times children take the blame, such as with divorce) Remind her, it’s not even technically about her. It is about these other children and their dislike of people who are different and their own insecurities about themselves. Some of these children are just spreading intolerance and others are trying to fit in. Some might use the excuse “we’re just teasing” but they all need to learn it is not ok.

Your daughter sounds like an amazing little girl.
 
I have two young daughters and I'm terrified to send them to middle school.

OP, if I were in your situation, I'd take her out of that toxic environment asap. She sounds like a strong, happy kid - how dare those little brats try to take that away from her! Oh it just makes me soooo mad!!:mad:

Learning how to stand up for yourself in the face of a little bullying is a fact of life, but dealing with a constant onslaught of emotional terrorism is not. This has gone way beyond your garden-variety middle school drama.

Hugs to you and your DD - and know that she'll grow up to be a wonderful, confident, capable young lady and those other brats will always have something ugly and hurtful inside them.
 
I am not sure that this will help, but you can certainly tell your daughter that she is in very good company. After quickly googling famous short people, I came up with a quick list of 10 very famous shorter people--and there are many, many more: Genghis Khan; Alexander Pope; J.M. Barrie; Andrew Carnegie; John Keats; Mary Lou Retton; Annie Oakley; Madeleine Albright; Laura Ingalls Wilder; and, Jada Pinkett Smith. All these people have triumphed in their chosen field. Mere height has nothing to do with how big you are!
 
I have a friend who has gone back to school to be a teacher. She is also working part-time as a substitute teacher. She has two DDs in elementary school.

She recently had a couple of substitute jobs at the middle school and next time we saw each other she said, "Tell me about homeschooling! No WAY are my girls going to that middle school!" She wouldn't tell me any specifics; I presume it would violate confidentiality, but if I had had any doubts (which I didn't, actually) it would have erased them.

She still wants to be a teacher, but she has no plans to put her own kids in a public middle school.
 
I was bullied horribly in 5th, 6th, and 7th grades. The bullying was horrible. I still to this day don't know why. The teachers knew, they didn't do a thing. I was beaten up while the Asst. Principal WATCHED. Kicker? My mom *taught* at the school.

8th grade came, and my mom ended up putting me in a Montessori school for the year. It was the best thing ever. Sure some of the kids were dysfunctional weirdos, but hey, I wasn't going through the bullying.

I ended up going to a public high school in a different district and used my dad's address (ironically he lived 8 blocks away..) and it was a new group of people, and no one said a thing to me, ever again. I found new friends, got involved in Art and German clubs, and made straight A's.

I don't think homeschooling your DD is a bad idea at all. Middle school is the abdolute worst, I'm terrified of sending DD to middle school when the time comes, but then again, I'm considering homeschooling her from the start.

:hug::hug::hug: BIG hugs to her. She'll get through this, sometimes you really do just need a little help from Mom. :hug:
 
Middle school is the abdolute worst, I'm terrified of sending DD to middle school when the time comes, but then again, I'm considering homeschooling her from the start.


OP here again. I was terrified to let dd start middle school too, always assumed we'd have to do something different with her after elementary school (not just her height, also some special needs things). But then oldest dd (who was very young for her grade) entered middle school. She LOVED school, for the first time ever....choosing classes, all the new kids to meet (4 or 5 elementary schools feed into the middle school). Her experience convinced me to let dd11 give middle school a try. Plus dd11 had sooo many friends, we thought that would be the fact that protected her.

Anyway, update: dh is still torn. Emailing dd's teachers, including the one that witnessed one incident on Tuesday, asking her if SHE can try to identify some of the kids too. For dd, the mugshot book was overwhelming. She pointed out at least 30 kids who she's pretty sure have been in on it. Says she can't remember all of them. SHOCKER: dh's very, very old-school dad TOLD dd to pull her out of that school. I bet dh is really worried, though, about the conversation with his mother.
 
If you decided to homeschool, here is a word of encouragement. We moved when my DD was in 4th grade. We didn't like the school options here so decided to homeschool for a few years. Well, she is heading into high school, and we are still homeschooling. She has clearly stated that she never wants to go back to public school.

She has several friends in the local public middle School. They do a lot of things together on the weekends, church stuff, and other activities. My DD is both annoyed and amazed at the amount of time they waste on social maneuvering and just surviving an average school day. A few of them are just counting the days till they can escape.
I had an interesting converstation with one of them last weekend. She hates school but loves learning. Its an odd contradiction. I like to take this girl with us to museums and places when we she is out of school. She likes coming along so she can have fun learning without getting picked on.

Several of these friends wish they were homeschooled. They see that my DD can get her school work done in much less time then they spend in the school building. She has extra time to volunteer, work on thing she enjoys and is already developing expertise in the area where she wants to work. She is naturally doing the things that will help her get scholarships and other opportunities.

Hope it works out and you find the best way to help your DD.
 
If you decided to homeschool, here is a word of encouragement. We moved when my DD was in 4th grade. We didn't like the school options here so decided to homeschool for a few years. Well, she is heading into high school, and we are still homeschooling. She has clearly stated that she never wants to go back to public school.

She has several friends in the local public middle School. They do a lot of things together on the weekends, church stuff, and other activities. My DD is both annoyed and amazed at the amount of time they waste on social maneuvering and just surviving an average school day. A few of them are just counting the days till they can escape.
I had an interesting converstation with one of them last weekend. She hates school but loves learning. Its an odd contradiction. I like to take this girl with us to museums and places when we she is out of school. She likes coming along so she can have fun learning without getting picked on.

Several of these friends wish they were homeschooled. They see that my DD can get her school work done in much less time then they spend in the school building. She has extra time to volunteer, work on thing she enjoys and is already developing expertise in the area where she wants to work. She is naturally doing the things that will help her get scholarships and other opportunities.

Hope it works out and you find the best way to help your DD.

In many ways this sounds like us too. Our DD was homeschooled from 4th grade on. She was able to have so many more opportunities because of it (as you said, volunteer work, "field trips" of our own design generally accompanied by friends, etc.)

Her best friend (and recent maid of honor :goodvibes) was in public school and desparately wanted to homeschool. Middle school and high school were very difficult for her. She was a very well behaved girl who wasn't into partying and some of the other stuff that was prevalent. Her mother worked for the school district in the office. While she knew we homeschooled, she was just uncomfortable about what people might say (and kept hearing over and over how that wasn't the way to deal with the problem - that the girl needed to learn how to handle it).

This went on for years until her DD was in the eleventh grade. Her daughter was basically being stalked in school by a guy she had gone out with who wanted "more" than she was willing to do so she had told him that she didn't want to go out with him anymore. She's a beautiful girl, and he and his friends harrassed her constantly. School administration pretty much did nothing. Finally, something happened (I don't remember exactly what), but they pulled her and her two siblings and never looked back.

She's nearly though with college and doing great. Interestingly enough, she wants to be a teacher. The son is a high school student now who is very active in his youth group and has a part-time job. The younger daughter is starting high school and doing quite well. She was quite the joiner/follower in public school, and her behavior had gotten to the point where being around her wasn't a pleasure at all. That changed almost immediately after she was removed from the cattiness that was her peer group.

Everybody has to choose what is best for their own child, and I never encourage anybody to make one choice over the other. I just want them to know that there are options, and homeschooling isn't a "second best" choice. It's equally as viable as public school (and many people find it to be a much better choice for them :goodvibes).
 
Thanks for the replies everyone.

DD knows that her dad and I are making the decision, primarily. She just told me (after 36 hours of school-free time at home "recovering"), that she doesn't think any of her dad's ideas are going to change anything. He has offered to try to get the school to: Switch her to the other team (problem is, dd already took many of those classes in the 1st semester); have a "buddy" assigned to dd, who has to walk between classes with her (dd doesn't want to be somebody's "job"); or have dd wait in class till AFTER the bells, and go to the next class a little late. For every class, till the end of the year, I guess.

I have researched for days, and talked to many people. At this point, my decision is made. I just can't move forward till dh jumps on board. So far, all he has decided is that dd will NOT go to school Monday.
 
OP, if I were in your situation, I'd take her out of that toxic environment asap.

I totally disagree. I went through horrible teasing in middle school. If those kids had called me short, I would have been grateful. Instead, I got names associated with being fat and ugly. I'd come home in tears almost every other day. I'm sure my mom was heartbroken by it all, but she let me know that life is not all rainbows and unicorns. She told me to think of a way to deal with it. I went through the teasing for many months. One day I just decided to heck with those kids and made my own way. I joined clubs in school to meet more people with my interest. One of those clubs included the ring leader of my abuse. Once we actually got to talk to each other, we became semi-friends. Making fun of me was over. Tell your daughter not to be afraid of those kids and talk to them. I am thankful that my mom did not pull me out of school. That year provided me with many life lessons. Not to mention, I ended up being pretty popular in High School. That was kind of the best revenge.;)
 





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