CS Dining Prices Are UP (for real)

sharonabe

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According to easywdw.com the dining prices at counter services are going up, and it's not the 2-3% some were predicting, but anywhere from 4.3%-10%. Kids' meals went from $4.99 to $5.49.

Get out those calculators and spreadsheets. The DDP price increases of a few months' back are not looking quite so bad now.
 
Get out those calculators and spreadsheets.

I've always found putting in rough guesses for food to be way off in my planning. So I've decided to build a spreadsheet that lets you plug in the actual menu item with price to "build" your meals when planning. Does anything already exist with this level of detail? (And yes the menu items appear automatically, you don't have to find the price and enter it yourself)
 
Bono, haven't seen anything like that. I always get out my legal pad and write down what I think everyone will eat at a certain restaurant ADR. I use the Menus that are listed online at places like AllEars...etc. If I'm unsure of what they'll eat....I choose an average cost of the main courses or just add the most expensive item in the category I'm trying to average (main course, appetizer, dessert...etc).

It's been really close every year....buffet meals are even easier to factor because of their flat rate cost. I add in 20% tax too....so we know pretty much what is going to be needed for each meal.
 

Bono, haven't seen anything like that. I always get out my legal pad and write down what I think everyone will eat at a certain restaurant ADR. I use the Menus that are listed online at places like AllEars...etc. If I'm unsure of what they'll eat....I choose an average cost of the main courses or just add the most expensive item in the category I'm trying to average (main course, appetizer, dessert...etc).

It's been really close every year....buffet meals are even easier to factor because of their flat rate cost. I add in 20% tax too....so we know pretty much what is going to be needed for each meal.

RatPack,
That is such a cute picture of your family in the matching shirts. Look mama duck and the baby ducks following behind.
Tax is only 6.5% at both TS and CS. Do you mean you add the 20% to give yourself plenty, so no surprises? Of course 18% tip or more at TS, so that is 24.5% minimum.
 
I cannot stand broccoli.Do you think you can sub it?? Just who thought to mix fried shrimp and broccoli together anyway. The shrimp basket is still the same price I thought as in 2009..
 
I cannot stand broccoli.Do you think you can sub it?? Just who thought to mix fried shrimp and broccoli together anyway. The shrimp basket is still the same price I thought as in 2009..


It says it's served wtih Steamed Fresh Broccoli, Apple Slices or French Fries. So no worries - you don't need to have Broccoli on vacation. :goodvibes

(Though I am pretty excited about the Broccoli. Yay for choices!! :yay:)
 
Now i'm re-looking at costs for upcoming WDW trip. To DDP or not to DDP? this is the question?!?!:confused3
 
I've always found putting in rough guesses for food to be way off in my planning. So I've decided to build a spreadsheet that lets you plug in the actual menu item with price to "build" your meals when planning. Does anything already exist with this level of detail? (And yes the menu items appear automatically, you don't have to find the price and enter it yourself)

Where on earth do you get that info? Then menu prices can't be relied upon to be accurate unless you are there at the restaurant. Allears and and even Disney's own site are not always correct, and wdwinfo is the least reliable.
 
Where on earth do you get that info? Then menu prices can't be relied upon to be accurate unless you are there at the restaurant. Allears and and even Disney's own site are not always correct, and wdwinfo is the least reliable.

I'm pulling in whatever is the latest published menu prices from any of the above sources. Obviously they change, some places have seasonal variances, etc. I'm halfway through just adding in all the possible eating locations on property. Maybe I'll focus on just adding the parks for now, post it for all to see, and find out if there is any interest in me finishing it.

I'm assuming that even if a few menu items are off, the slight difference will still be less than generic assumptions per meal that most of the other spreadsheets out there do. Plus tip, tax, discounts, etc. applied.
 
According to easywdw.com the dining prices at counter services are going up, and it's not the 2-3% some were predicting, but anywhere from 4.3%-10%. Kids' meals went from $4.99 to $5.49.

Get out those calculators and spreadsheets. The DDP price increases of a few months' back are not looking quite so bad now.

Certainly makes the 2011 DDP prices a better deal.

The price changes are highly variable. Some items have not changed prices at all. Other items have seen miniscule price increases -- Like the fried shrimp basket at Columbia Harbor House has gone from $9.89 to $9.99 -- clearly trying not to break the $10 mark so limited the increase to 1%.

Overall though, initial indications are of a pretty significant increase to CS prices. No reports of major changes to TS prices yet.

Of course, because of the relative cheapness of CS items, a small cent-wise increase translates to a large percentage -- Increasing the price of a soda by .40, translates to a 20% increase. Raising kid meal prices by .50, translates into 10% increase.

From the examples I've seen, desserts have not increased in price.

Overall.... It does appear that CS prices are going up by about 5% average. Some items more, some items less. (anywhere from 0-10% for most items)
With many CS entrees going up by .50, soda going up about .40, and dessert staying about the same..... It looks like the price of a typical CS lunch or dinner, may be going up by about $1.

So does this justify the changes in the QSDP for 2012?

Well.... The cost of the CS lunch and dinner, going up by a $1 each..... gives you an additional $2 of value under the QSDP. But the elimination of a snack, it a reduction of about $3-$4.

Thus, even with the price increase.. unless you love love love the mugs, plus love the CS desserts, it is pretty hard to rationalize paying for the QSDP.

Looking at children's prices under the QSDP --- 2 5.50 meals is $11. About $11.70 with tax, while kids under the QSDP are $11.99. Meaning, kids are basically getting a mug and 1 snack for 30 cents over the cost of their meals.

The effect on the DDP and DxDP can't be evaluated until we get a sense of the change in TS meals prices. I do not expect to see TS meal prices go up as dramatically. As we are talking about higher price point items.... The lobster at Narcoose's may go up by $2...which would be a 3% increase.... I don't expect the price to go up by $5-10.

But we'll see as menus get updated.
 
RatPack,
That is such a cute picture of your family in the matching shirts. Look mama duck and the baby ducks following behind.
Tax is only 6.5% at both TS and CS. Do you mean you add the 20% to give yourself plenty, so no surprises? Of course 18% tip or more at TS, so that is 24.5% minimum.

Thanks :) Actually it's oldest DD and daddy duck with all the little ducklings following behind. I want to try to get a better one this year....that picture has one missing child and of course me LOL At TS meals we get hit with an automatic 18% because we're a family of 7.....but we do like to tip a full 20% if the service is fair.

Where on earth do you get that info? Then menu prices can't be relied upon to be accurate unless you are there at the restaurant. Allears and and even Disney's own site are not always correct, and wdwinfo is the least reliable.

I've never had a problem with these being way off? I've done it this way for years....using those AllEars menus. I just pulled out my menus and receipts from 2009 and 2010 and here are just a few of the comparisons:
Toy Story Pizza Planet CS: Menu Estimate $85.59 Restaurant charge 90.84
Sci Fi TS: Menu Estimate $160.15 Restaurant charge 166.63
Hollywood and Vine Buffet TS: Estimate $154.50 Restaurant charge $163.02
Tony's Town Square TS: Estimate $174.42 Restaurant charge $180.96
Chef Mickey's TS Buffet: Menu Estimate $154.50 Restaurant charge $163.02

So as you can see....it's really close...not exactly a science of perfection but it gets me in the right ballpark LOL Some of these we tipped a bit more and some we bought a souvenir cup with glow cube...etc so maybe that's where the difference is? Either way....it let me know before hand how much I needed to set aside for each meal we had. Our CS is covered by the dining plan this year, but I still like to know a rough estimate for our TS meals since we pay OOP for those.


Certainly makes the 2011 DDP prices a better deal.

The price changes are highly variable. Some items have not changed prices at all. Other items have seen miniscule price increases -- Like the fried shrimp basket at Columbia Harbor House has gone from $9.89 to $9.99 -- clearly trying not to break the $10 mark so limited the increase to 1%.

Overall though, initial indications are of a pretty significant increase to CS prices. No reports of major changes to TS prices yet.

Thanks for the breakdown :) I think I can deal with smaller cent increases....I just don't want a buffet to go from 23.99 to 35.99....etc.
 
This is why, when I budget for food, I always budget way high. I automatically take into account that prices might change before I get there. As in, I budget appetizer, entree, dessert, and drink for 2 people for table service and then entree, dessert, and drink for 2 people at counter service (we NEVER eat that much). I also have parts in the daily budget for "drinks", "snacks", and "booze"... all of which are multiplied by 2 (even though I can not drink alcohol due to medical reasons). Then, I round everything UP! What happens is that I over budget by quite a bit... but that means I don't have to worry in situations like this.
 
I'm not so much budgeting because I'm worried I won't have enough...more of just wanting to know. We sometimes pay cash for certain TS meals....so it's nice to know how much to have on hand. As you saw on my previous post....the numbers were all pretty much consistently 10.00 more than what I figured....so again, we always factor in that it may be 10.00 to 20.00 higher, but if prices on the menus are going to go up substantially that could cause a problem LOL
 
When budgeting for OOP, always overestimate. When budgeting DDP savings, underestimate. Essentially going the opposite way that you want things to do. This way you're prepared for less than ideal circumstances and are happy when they're the opposite :).

The CHH example is WAY too small of a sample to even begin to determine overall property-wide price changes. Chances are, the cheaper stuff will have higher percentages, but the more expensive will have much smaller. It's the way it works.

Not saying it won't be > 2-3%, not at all, just that one CS place out of however many CS and TS places there are at Disney isn't a strong sample.

Also, as a note, food prices have been rising steeply outside of the world too. Which is certainly something to consider when we do see the increases start up.
 
Bono, haven't seen anything like that. I always get out my legal pad and write down what I think everyone will eat at a certain restaurant ADR. I use the Menus that are listed online at places like AllEars...etc. If I'm unsure of what they'll eat....I choose an average cost of the main courses or just add the most expensive item in the category I'm trying to average (main course, appetizer, dessert...etc).

It's been really close every year....buffet meals are even easier to factor because of their flat rate cost. I add in 20% tax too....so we know pretty much what is going to be needed for each meal.

I love that you do it this way---the "legal pad and write down".
I read your later post about projected vs. actual.
You have done a great job!
Boy, though, with 7, it is an expensive trip.
 
LilyWDW,
I love your rule #3.
Think we could get more poeple to read your rules?
And especially rule #2.

I can not take credit for them... they are from kaytieeldr. After a very interesting thread awhile back, I asked her if I could steal them. Thus, there they are! :thumbsup2
 
I am at WDW now and I have notices that the prices have all increased over last year. I usually budget $200 per day for a family of 4 adults and I am way over that. Free breakfast at WLCL and one cs and one ts plus snacks (like an ice cream or something). I have my spreadsheet from last year so I can post a comparison when I get home.
 
I am at WDW now and I have notices that the prices have all increased over last year. I usually budget $200 per day for a family of 4 adults and I am way over that. Free breakfast at WLCL and one cs and one ts plus snacks (like an ice cream or something). I have my spreadsheet from last year so I can post a comparison when I get home.

See, this is what I meant in my previous post. A normal day for us (splitting a breakfast, CS lunch each, TS dinner each(using Raglan Road as an example), "snack", "drinks", and "booze" (all each) gets about the same budget... for 2 of us. I would much rather have money left over then not be able to get what I want. So I ALWAYS over budget.
 












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