Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Brianstl]

I have the say the schtick blaming this on CA is getting old.

Who are they supposed to blame for their parks in CA still being closed despite the evidence that they can operate parks safely in this environment around the world?

 

[Mit88]

Who are they supposed to blame for their parks in CA still being closed despite the evidence that they can operate parks safely in this environment around the world?

Its not that the blame isn’t on California, or Newsom, it’s that poking is clearly not working, so why continue doing it? Newsom is obviously not buckling to the pressure that Disney is putting on them. Just get everything ready so when he does decide it’s time, you’re ready to go

 

[yulilin3]

I believe this latest statement from Disney is in direct response to senator Warren's accusing Disney management

 

[Brianstl]

Its not that the blame isn’t on California, or Newsom, it’s that poking is clearly not working, so why continue doing it? Newsom is obviously not buckling to the pressure that Disney is putting on them. Just get everything ready so when he does decide it’s time, you’re ready to go

Playing nice for six months obviously didn't work. So they now need to put the blame where it clearly belongs. People need to know Newsom will be completely responsible for the next round of layoffs in CA.

 

[magickingdomprincess]

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What is this in response to?

 

[Mit88]

What is this in response to?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...over-disneys-short-sighted-business-decisions


Sorry, thought the letter had been posted here already

 

[rteetz]

Who are they supposed to blame for their parks in CA still being closed despite the evidence that they can operate parks safely in this environment around the world?

Not that, the employees being laid off. That would’ve happened regardless of CA being open or not.

 

[Brianstl]

Not that, the employees being laid off. That would’ve happened regardless of CA being open or not.

There wouldn't have been as many layoffs in CA if the parks were open.

 

[andyman8]

I have the say the schtick blaming this on CA is getting old.

Who are they supposed to blame for their parks in CA still being closed despite the evidence that they can operate parks safely in this environment around the world?

Perhaps I missed part of the letter, but wasn't it about executive pay and dividends in the midst of these layoffs? If so, then California or a "responsible reopening" have nothing to do with that. There are folks on here who have come up with more reasonable defenses of Disney's decision than its own PR/Public Affairs team.

 

[rteetz]

There wouldn't have been as many layoffs in CA if the parks were open.

They still would’ve happened. Yes they were larger but Disney has played this off like it’s Disney’s fault.

 

[rteetz]

Perhaps I missed part of the letter, but wasn't it about executive pay and dividends in the midst of these layoffs? If so, then California or a "responsible reopening" have nothing to do with that. There are folks on here who have come up with more reasonable defenses of Disney's decision than its own PR/Public Affairs team.

Disney’s response to this letter from Warren specifically noted the CA closures. Disney’s original layoff notice stated it was in large part due to CA being closed. That really isn’t true. Sure would some jobs have been saved? Yes. Certainly not 28,000. People are also stuck up on the executive pay. That yes also would have saved some jobs but again not 28,000. That’s the nature of this situation.

 

[Farro]

Can we pls go back to complaining about the lines - thanks...

I was just talking to my brother. He's coming for a few days on our next trip. He likes to go to WDW - been a good amount of times.

I was telling him about all the entertainment cuts and he's like - did you know that there is an aquarium at Epcot (um, yeah) and parrots that fly over your head at Animal Kingdom? Put that on our to do list! He's still excited to go!

Just shows how Disney means something totally different to each person. Some of the cuts are deep for people, especially people on this board. Some people won't notice anything.

I'm probably in the middle. I will say I feel worse when I read the boards than I do if I just hear it in passing. That's not blaming or complaining, I just react to people's reactions.
Then when I talk to people like my brother, who are like "it's still gonna be great!", I think that way too! I'm not very complicated...

For me, as long as AK is still there in all it's glory, the magic is still there.

Unless I have to wait in line to get in the Mexico Pavilion. Then the magic is kaput.

 

[andyman8]

Disney’s response to this letter from Warren specifically noted the CA closures. Disney’s original layoff notice stated it was in large part due to CA being closed. That really isn’t true. Sure would some jobs have been saved? Yes. Certainly not 28,000. People are also stuck up on the executive pay. That yes also would have saved some jobs but again not 28,000. That’s the nature of this situation.

No, I totally agree with you. I guess my question is just what does California (or really most of what's mentioned in their statement) have to do with the impetus for the statement: the Senator's letter (which was about shareholder dividends and executive pay restoration in the midst of these layoffs)?

 

[rpb718]

I leave for a 2.5 hour dentist appointment and come back to this? The last 5 pages were more painful than the dentist.

I know we hit 3000 pages today but it could have just as easily been 4000 since originally there was a "companion" thread here that rehashed the same subjects as this one and was mercifully locked some months back. (Remember the good-old-days where you'd lock the threads so you could get some sleep @rteetz?)

The Disney experience we all knew is gone, not wanting to sound dramatic is just the truth.

Oh suuuuuure when you say it it’s being realistic when I do months ago it’s being negative.

The realists didn't really know, but we suspected as much and offered our much-maligned opinions. (If anyone has ever perused the history of the Spanish flu and grasped the implications and parallels you would have too). I know I posted yesterday that the recovery will not be swift, but the combined messaging from Disney news releases on a weekly basis has me continually adding years to it.

So now on my trip I only get one of Cinderella's step-sisters? Fine. So now the lines are long for everything? Fine.

I'll make up my own rides. I'll call one "Grand Floridian Adventure" and do what yesterday's youtuber did - I'll ride a boat over to the Grand Floridian and then Monorail back to MK. For an upcharge you can get a cupcake. Then I'll hop a bus and go on another new ride, a horror ride in keeping with the season. I'll call it "Nightmare at Disney Springs".

 

[hereforthechurros]

Yep. There's a fundamental change occurring to the Disney Parks' experience right now. We're not going back to "normal." We'll eventually move into a "new normal." The pandemic isn't the reason for the change; it's the reason for the timing.

To oversimplify, would you say the new regime under Chapek is the reason?

edit: meaning his vision for Disney.

 

[Tigger's ally]

it's been explained several times why fp right now wouldn't work. It would be an extremely limited get and then it would balloon standby wait time where now you see 60 minutes becomeing 90+

Yeah, but you are a regular. My wife and I are in our late 50's and we dont want to tour the parks like you. Give us 3 fastpasses, we will ride what we want and if we dont ride another thing, fine. We come from >1000 miles, pay deluxe prices, and only have a few must do's. People tour differently.

 

[Tigger's ally]

I leave for a 2.5 hour dentist appointment and come back to this? The last 5 pages were more painful than the dentist.

I know we hit 3000 pages today but it could have just as easily been 4000 since originally there was a "companion" thread here that rehashed the same subjects as this one and was mercifully locked some months back. (Remember the good-old-days where you'd lock the threads so you could get some sleep @rteetz?)




The realists didn't really know, but we suspected as much and offered our much-maligned opinions. (If anyone has ever perused the history of the Spanish flu and grasped the implications and parallels you would have too). I know I posted yesterday that the recovery will not be swift, but the combined messaging from Disney news releases on a weekly basis has me continually adding years to it.

So now on my trip I only get one of Cinderella's step-sisters? Fine. So now the lines are long for everything? Fine.

I'll make up my own rides. I'll call one "Grand Floridian Adventure" and do what yesterday's youtuber did - I'll ride a boat over to the Grand Floridian and then Monorail back to MK. For an upcharge you can get a cupcake. Then I'll hop a bus and go on another new ride, a horror ride in keeping with the season. I'll call it "Nightmare at Disney Springs".

I love it when people deem themselves "realists"

 

[yulilin3]

Yeah, but you are a regular. My wife and I are in our late 50's and we dont want to tour the parks like you. Give us 3 fastpasses, we will ride what we want and if we dont ride another thing, fine. We come from >1000 miles, pay deluxe prices, and only have a few must do's. People tour differently.

Me being a local has nothing to do with the fact that fp under the current conditions won't work

 

[disneygirlsng]

Yeah, but you are a regular. My wife and I are in our late 50's and we dont want to tour the parks like you. Give us 3 fastpasses, we will ride what we want and if we dont ride another thing, fine. We come from >1000 miles, pay deluxe prices, and only have a few must do's. People tour differently.

It's not really about different touring styles, it's logistically not feasible right now.

 

[Tigger's ally]

It's not really about different touring styles, it's logistically not feasible right now.

Me being a local has nothing to do with the fact that fp under the current conditions won't work

It would if each ride was open to capacity. Hence the problem. I LOVE dis as much as anybody, but they need to keep those of us spending big bucks to risk a trip happy. Put 5 more CMs at each ride, open each side. Cater to those willing to supporr you in tough times. Good business.