Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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Looks like Disney is giving up on hoping more out-of-town guests come in with all the additional availability made for APs and CMs. Gonna see some busy parks going forward

Definitely concerned.


The thing that is sort of confusing is conventional wisdom has always been that Disneyland is a locals park; Disney World is a visitors' resort. Obviously, there are exceptions on both sides, but that's the general perception at least.

Now, it just seems like demand for AP members (mostly locals, I'd presume) is just crazy high. I don't know if it's just pent up demand or what.
 

So disappointed no Yachtsman, we're staying at an Epcot area resort for the first time during our September/October trip and I was really hoping to try it.

I don’t believe any of the Signature restaurants at resorts have opening dates. Even Turf Club at SSR is “temporarily unavailable”. :sad1:

I’m watching for Flying Fish to reopen.
 
Definitely concerned.


The thing that is sort of confusing is conventional wisdom has always been that Disneyland is a locals park; Disney World is a visitors' resort. Obviously, there are exceptions on both sides, but that's the general perception at least.

Now, it just seems like demand for AP members (mostly locals, I'd presume) is just crazy high. I don't know if it's just pent up demand or what.
The availability for resort guests regarding park pass is 100%... I wouldn't be be too concerned.
 
Definitely concerned.


The thing that is sort of confusing is conventional wisdom has always been that Disneyland is a locals park; Disney World is a visitors' resort. Obviously, there are exceptions on both sides, but that's the general perception at least.

Now, it just seems like demand for AP members (mostly locals, I'd presume) is just crazy high. I don't know if it's just pent up demand or what.
It’s pent up demand for local APs, but also the lack of large quantities of guests traveling to Disney. Disney isn’t changing their philosophy and looking to turn WDW into a locals park, it’s just that there aren’t enough people willing to travel right now with, you know, a worldwide pandemic going on. Nothing to be concerned about longterm.
 
It’s pent up demand for local APs, but also the lack of large quantities of guests traveling to Disney. Disney isn’t changing their philosophy and looking to turn WDW into a locals park, it’s just that there aren’t enough people willing to travel right now with, you know, a worldwide pandemic going on. Nothing to be concerned about longterm.

exactly. Literally all they did was take spots from the other pods, and add some to APs since they aren't being used, and APs were basically blocked out for the rest of August.

And plus, they only opened up more spots for APs through Sep 3. So it's not like they added more for the rest of the year
 
It looks like they're blocking off seats in front, behind, and to each side of occupied seats.
Which I get, but I am looking at the new Cirque show for my December trip and it doesn't look like they are doing that at all. You can see some row one's gone in upper deck and the row behind are available. Same for top row with some available right below that.

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So disappointed no Yachtsman, we're staying at an Epcot area resort for the first time during our September/October trip and I was really hoping to try it.
Wow, they’ve really scaled back the resort reopening plans. I’m surprised by no YS but I’m even more surprised that they’re essentially re-closing BC Marketplace and that they’re opting for a bar-only model for Hurricane Hanna’s. Just goes to show resort traffic is not even close to what they expected.
 
I don’t believe any of the Signature restaurants at resorts have opening dates. Even Turf Club at SSR is “temporarily unavailable”. :sad1:

I’m watching for Flying Fish to reopen.
I wouldn’t hold my breath for FF anytime soon, given that they called off the October reopening of BWI. CG and Topolino’s are the only Resort signatures open at the moment. I’m a big fan of those two, but ate both recently and something felt off. I can’t put my finger on it, but there was some element of the signature experience that felt like it was missing. The staff did a wonderful job, especially in the middle of a pandemic, but something was missing.
 
TheMaxRebo said:
Big reallocation of passes opens up all 4 parks for passholders through Sept 3rd

I understand why they did this but I am sooooo disappointed right now. I was just in the middle of planning a 3 night mother daughter stay for dd and I for 9/1-4 because of the low crowds and the not yet reduced hours. Now I feel like it will be just as crowded as a weekend stay (we were gonna go Tuesday thru Friday). Now I’m not sure it will be worth it....
 
TheMaxRebo said:
Big reallocation of passes opens up all 4 parks for passholders through Sept 3rd

I understand why they did this but I am sooooo disappointed right now. I was just in the middle of planning a 3 night mother daughter stay for dd and I for 9/1-4 because of the low crowds and the not yet reduced hours. Now I feel like it will be just as crowded as a weekend stay (we were gonna go Tuesday thru Friday). Now I’m not sure it will be worth it....
You’ll most likely still be ok with those days. It’s not going to be weekend levels during the week. Even though they’ve opened availability to APs, locals do still have work and school during the week. Will it be a bit more crowded than it has during the weekdays, probably, but not weekend level. And as stated above, the parks will never be as empty as they were those first 2-3 weeks of being open. They will steadily look and feel more crowded.
 
You’ll most likely still be ok with those days. It’s not going to be weekend levels during the week. Even though they’ve opened availability to APs, locals do still have work and school during the week. Will it be a bit more crowded than it has during the weekdays, probably, but not weekend level. And as stated above, the parks will never be as empty as they were those first 2-3 weeks of being open. They will steadily look and feel more crowded.

I'm going next week (Mon-Sat) and was also there July 19-24th when in my opinion things were dead dead. I'll be sure to share my thoughts on how it compares!
 
You’ll most likely still be ok with those days. It’s not going to be weekend levels during the week. Even though they’ve opened availability to APs, locals do still have work and school during the week. Will it be a bit more crowded than it has during the weekdays, probably, but not weekend level. And as stated above, the parks will never be as empty as they were those first 2-3 weeks of being open. They will steadily look and feel more crowded.

I know it will be busier than the first couple of weeks but I have been checking religiously throughout the day every weekday for the past 2 weeks and the past 2 days looked awesome as far as wait time across all parks. I'm going to keep watching but now it feels more risky with the possibility of a bunch more people coming, including AP's AND CM's and their family and friends. No doubt the crowds would have been less if they didn't suddenly change the pools of availability. And no, I do not begrudge anyone else for going if they are able. This is just me venting about my planning (we are out of state) and I just canceled a trip for DH and I for September 8-12 because of reduced hours and no hopping. Just disappointing all around 😔
 
Which I get, but I am looking at the new Cirque show for my December trip and it doesn't look like they are doing that at all. You can see some row one's gone in upper deck and the row behind are available. Same for top row with some available right below that.

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Different theater, different rules. I guess this one thinks their seats are far enough apart that they don't need to do every other row.
 
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