Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Mr. Drauer]

 

[indylaw99]

Has there been enough time since the opening of the other theme parks that we would be starting to hear if there were any outbreaks caused by opening them?

For example, we are two weeks past the opening of Holiday World here in Indiana. Our state numbers are stable and every outbreak I have seen reported has been traced back to graduation parties and group activities.

I'm wondering if Disney is watching that kind of thing across the states that have started opening amusement parks at least 2 weeks ago?

 

[skeeter31]

They’re discussing whether WDW will delay opening on the DIS Unplugged right now. Spoiler alert: they think reopening will be delayed.

I still think WDW opens on time.

Never watched any Vlogs, but from following the opinions of the DIS unplugged team from this thread, I wouldn’t really believe most of what they say. They were wrong about the opening date, the need for Individual MDE accounts for each person, and a few other things. Like others posted, they are just an opinion, like all the rest of us. Take it with a grain of salt.

 

[TexasErin]

My trip is in ten days. At this point, I will believe it is going to happen when I am on my flight back home!

 

[SaintsManiac]

Never watched any Vlogs, but from following the opinions of the DIS unplugged team from this thread, I wouldn’t really believe most of what they say. They were wrong about the opening date, the need for Individual MDE accounts for each person, and a few other things. Like others posted, they are just an opinion, like all the rest of us. Take it with a grain of salt.

Keep reading. We all know it’s just opinion.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I bet a part of the reason they’ve been so vague with AP refunds despite extensions already being processed is despite the full steam ahead that the opening appears to be, they’re aware there are circumstances that could delay it, changing the refund amounts.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Don’t forget, right now they’re opinion based like the rest of us .

yeah, Pete was definitely saying he doesn't "think" they will open in July - he didn't mention that he is hearing anything or antyihng liek that (which he sometimes does when he has inside info)

I think he is just really concerned with the trends in numbers and that he sees too many people in the area not following the guidelines (he stated he will not return to the parks when they first reopen and is basically back to quarantining in his house).

 

[0FF TO NEVERLAND]

It’s just that I keep reading on here that our hospitals are overwhelmed, but local news is saying otherwise.

Listen to local news. They don’t have an agenda

 

[Katrina Y]

On the local news this morning they said there were currently 25 covid patients in ICU In Orange County. It’s hard to know what to believe with so much conflicting information.

Only 25 ICU bed are being used by Covid patients, the other ICU beds are being by people with other medical complications such as heart attacks, tumors, car accidents, etc.....

 

[Sandiz08]

ICU capacity is an odd number to look at. As stated above you do not know who is in there for covid. Pre-covid, ICU’s as a whole, usually run close to capacity. This is why elective procedures are being taken out once again to make room for those that may truly need the space. It’s not surprising ICU shortage is there.

 

[GusGusTheMouse]

MA just advised residents that they will have to self quarantine for 14 days after travel to most states outside of New England and the NY metro area.

Good thing my office remains remote until after Labor Day!

 

[DGsAtBLT]

yeah, Pete was definitely saying he doesn't "think" they will open in July - he didn't mention that he is hearing anything or antyihng liek that (which he sometimes does when he has inside info)

I think he is just really concerned with the trends in numbers and that he sees too many people in the area not following the guidelines (he stated he will not return to the parks when they first reopen and is basically back to quarantining in his house).

I think that is smart of him and I respect Disney journalists who are both talking about the dangers of going right now AND putting their money where their mouth is and not going.

There are quite a few who are worried about the numbers in Florida yet simultaneously planning their trips for around opening, some of who will be traveling there .

 

[Tbella]

What if Disney World delays opening but the numbers continue to trend this way? The youngsters will continue going out and gathering in large groups as it's summer. Come Fall and Winter, many predict a second waive that may be even worse. There is less and less talk about a vaccine being available by the end of the year or beginning of next year. If Disney World doesn't open as scheduled, I fear they may not open at all this year and maybe even next year.

 

[Yooperroo]

My trip is in ten days. At this point, I will believe it is going to happen when I am on my flight back home!

Ours is in 13 and I said the same thing to my husband today. I won't believe it until I'm on the plane.

 

[KBoopaloo]

I bet a part of the reason they’ve been so vague with AP refunds despite extensions already being processed is despite the full steam ahead that the opening appears to be, they’re aware there are circumstances that could delay it, changing the refund amounts.

I have been wondering about this as well. I originally had hoped to maybe talk myself into a trip during my extension but it is only through October and I don’t think I will be wanting to travel then. I haven’t called yet to request the refund because I’ve wondered if there might be a further extension if opening is delayed or even more limited than they planned.

 

[hereforthechurros]

It’s not about the cost of the testing; it’s about the cost of implementing the testing, which does have a not insignificant cost, even more so when compounded with the large losses they’ve just experienced. Disney would have to pay for those administering the test, certain facilities, certain supplies, etc... It’s easier to just tell the CMs to go try to do it (worth noting that when I was a CM, I often had a hard time going in for routine appointments because your schedule is so far from normal business hours and fluid, so I’d often you’d just to have use an off day for any of those types of appointments).

I think them reopening without providing some sort of initial testing for CMs contrasted with the frequent testing for NBA players could result in some bad publicity if the story gets picked up. Disney is banking on it not.

I also wonder if there are some legal restrictions to telling CMs they have to be tested.

 

[RamblingMad]

So far Pete and Jackie think it will be delayed. Craig says still a go.

Makes sense. Craig has been to Universal.

If WDW delays, will Universal shutdown?

 

[0FF TO NEVERLAND]

What if Disney World delays opening but the numbers continue to trend this way? The youngsters will continue going out and gathering in large groups as it's summer. Come Fall and Winter, many predict a second waive that may be even worse. There is less and less talk about a vaccine being available by the end of the year or beginning of next year. If Disney World doesn't open as scheduled, I fear they may not open at all this year and maybe even next year.

There would be no more Disney World if that had to happen

None of this is sustainable. I hope everyone who is infected have mild symptoms or none at all and recover just fine, as 5 million have already.

We need to stop counting on a vaccine coming at all. That might never happen. If everyone is staying inside holding out hope that one is coming, they might be waiting inside forever.

Disney is going to be smart with this. They will enforce all the rules with the masks. I trust Disney, and quite frankly, I trust the people going to Disney during this.

Those 20-30 year olds at the bars, not caring, doing their own thing are not the ones who are going to Disney World. If anything, they would have went to Universal since it caters to the older crowd and Universal is doing fine. There is no reason for Universal to close if they see things going well at their parks, with no huge outbreaks in them

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Makes sense. Craig has been to Universal.

If WDW delays, will Universal shutdown?

Craig specifically talked about how he felt safer / people were following guidelines way more at Universal that at Publix, Walmart, etc.

If Disney delays, not sure if Universal would close - probably would depend on why Disney delayed (like if huge uptick in related deaths or ICU beds running out, etc. vs just increase in positive test rates) .... I think it would take more to close once open than to delay an opening

 

[Brianstl]

They’re discussing whether WDW will delay opening on the DIS Unplugged right now. Spoiler alert: they think reopening will be delayed.

I still think WDW opens on time.

I agree with they will open on schedule. It is reaching the point that opening is key to survival as a business in present from. They can't keep delaying the resumption of revenue streams. The longer they are starved of revenue the closer they get to the point of having to start unloading assets.