Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[LSUmiss]

Well gov just said we go to phase 1 on Friday and he wants everyone wearing masks in public. CDC recommends it. If they are still recommending it when WDW is ready to open I am sure WDW will require it.

Did he say it was required. I didn’t see anything yet.

 

[Pickle Rick]

Now to me THAT’S infuriating. It’s not that hard to social distance.

Was at Publix on Saturday and mask and non mask wearers go around acting like everything is "normal", getting right besides each other, and not following the directions in general.

 

[EveDallas]

We are going to be getting to a point of "COVID-fatigue" pretty soon. It's just like how a population eventually gets war fatigued. We can't remain on this type of footing indefinitely without long-term consequences. The mental health impact is being vastly underestimated. I read a report from Australia recently that they are already seeing a spike in suicides. We got so many people now unemployed in the US and losing their businesses. And now you got the "new normal" with all these new restrictions with masks and social distancing with no end in sight. There is going to be a spike of anxiety and depression cases and some people aren't going to do well handling that.

I'm already seeing it. People are quickly getting to the breaking point.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Eh, maybe. I'd say your casual Disney goer isn't as demanding as your average Disney fanatic on forums like this.

On the flip side, I think your casual Disney goer will simply postpone without drama and sadness with a significantly lessened park experience.

They’ll shrug and try again next year.

 

[UOAP]

Now to me THAT’S infuriating. It’s not that hard to social distance.

It's hard to social distance in a theme park, even with low crowds. Read that blog about the first day at Shanghai Disney. The stores were still crowded as people spilled into them. And that was with barely anyone there.

 

[Eric Smith]

We cannot leave sheltering in place forever for half the population just because the other half doesn't want to take appropriate safety measures for the benefit of others.

What are you arguing for? It seems that you're arguing to leave everyone sheltering in place until some point in the future when it is deemed to be "safe". In reality, people need to take the measures that they see fit once things start to reopen. If the government allows Disney to reopen, I won't begrudge anyone for going. Everyone needs to make the decision for themselves.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Did he say it was required. I didn’t see anything yet.

That's going to be up to businesses to decide, but they want them to make it a requirement. Nothing here has been "enforced." It's just being a decent neighbor and looking out for each other. Why is it we can rescue people from flood waters, but not wear a dang mask for a 30 minute grocery trip?

 

[UOAP]

I know you have a June trip, so do I. I really have to wonder how many people who are in favor of mandatory masks are even going in June. This decision probably doesn’t apply to a lot of people here at the moment and by mid to late summer this won’t even be a topic of conversation.

I think in the posts I’ve read, most people have said they will either go or not relative to mask requirement so I’m unsure why there are attempts to shame those who will not go if they need to wear a mask. It’s a personal choice.

No one should shame anyone who postpones a vacation because they don't want to wear a mask. It's a perfectly reasonable and understandable choice. And MUCH better than planning on going anyway but trying to break the rules while there.

 

[Kadorto]

Security isn't only at the front of the park, you know. They have a ton of plainclothes officers that are more than capable of following people, and if someone is seen repeatedly removing their mask after being reminded of the rules, it wouldn't be hard to have the person removed.

LOL.. ROFL.. And LMFAO!

 

[UOAP]

What are you arguing for? It seems that you're arguing to leave everyone sheltering in place until some point in the future when it is deemed to be "safe". In reality, people need to take the measures that they see fit once things start to reopen. If the government allows Disney to reopen, I won't begrudge anyone for going. Everyone needs to make the decision for themselves.

That is not what I am arguing for. I am arguing for careful safety measures to be in place and followed strictly so people can stop sheltering in place. I have been very consistent on that point. I know the concept of public health bothers a lot of people, but individual preference is secondary to public health when we need public health in order to have a functioning economy and society.

 

[MrsSmith07]

I know you have a June trip, so do I. I really have to wonder how many people who are in favor of mandatory masks are even going in June. This decision probably doesn’t apply to a lot of people here at the moment and by mid to late summer this won’t even be a topic of conversation.

I think in the posts I’ve read, most people have said they will either go or not relative to mask requirement so I’m unsure why there are attempts to shame those who will not go if they need to wear a mask. It’s a personal choice.

We have a June trip. If they require masks, we’d wear them. I’d rather it be more of a hybrid situation (required in lines or indoors, recommended but not mandatory outdoors), but we all know they aren’t consulting me on what I want . At the end of the day, I just want to go, so I’ll do whatever they want me to.

 

[Eric Smith]

That is not what I am arguing for. I am arguing for careful safety measures to be in place and followed strictly so people can stop sheltering in place. I have been very consistent on that point. I know the concept of public health bothers a lot of people, but individual preference is secondary to public health when we need public health in order to have a functioning economy and society.

Disney is going to make people wear masks and they're going to lay out means to keep people separated. What more do you expect? Some people will not follow that guidance, but that's life.

 

[whiporee]

. If Disney is linked to children dying,

You can believe what you want to believe, and you can do what you want to do. But as of last week, there have been 10 COVID-19 deaths under the age of 14, and 48 between the ages of 15-24.

While all of those are sad and tragic, making this about children dying is really mis-stating the science of the situation.

 

[xuxa777]

That's going to be up to businesses to decide, but they want them to make it a requirement. Nothing here has been "enforced." It's just being a decent neighbor and looking out for each other. Why is it we can rescue people from flood waters, but not wear a dang mask for a 30 minute grocery trip?

If the government is not going to, or doesn't want to enforce masks what makes you think businesses want to enforce it. I haven't seen any business or Disney actually enforce it, it is required to enter Costco but once you are in there they aren't kicking out people if thay take it off.

 

[anthony2k7]

Favorite post of the day!

Disney's plainclothes are going to follow around people who remove their masks too much and then have them removed from the park

Sounds outrageous doesn't it.

But then who is more dangerous to other guests, an asymptomatic covid case who keeps removing their mask, or someone who gets a bit mouthy after a few too many beers in WS?

 

[LSUmiss]

That's going to be up to businesses to decide, but they want them to make it a requirement. Nothing here has been "enforced." It's just being a decent neighbor and looking out for each other. Why is it we can rescue people from flood waters, but not wear a dang mask for a 30 minute grocery trip?

I guess like I said b/c it’s doing nothing. I plan to stay away from ppl & do even if that’s less convenient. So if you’re in an aisle. I wait until no one is in the aisle. I don’t touch my face AT ALL until after I get home & wash my hands. I think not wearing a mask & staying away from ppl & not having to adjust it & touch my face etc is the best way to keep me & my family safe. And. I will admit that those are the ppl I’m more concerned with vs society as a whole even if that’s selfish. I have to wear one to go into work for a few hours this week & I will comply, however.

 

[Josh125]

Yeah & they were required for Shanghai too until Shanghai relaxed that rule right before opening today.

Where are you seeing this? The press release and any articles that come up state they are still required.

 

[Pickle Rick]

You can believe what you want to believe, and you can do what you want to do. But as of last week, there have been 10 COVID-19 deaths under the age of 14, and 48 between the ages of 15-24.

While all of those are sad and tragic, making this about children dying is really mis-stating the science of the situation.

I've read that there may be long term health problems for younger people who get the virus.

 

[LSUmiss]

Sounds outrageous doesn't it.

But then who is more dangerous to other guests, an asymptomatic covid case who keeps removing their mask, or someone who gets a bit mouthy after a few too many beers in WS?

Actually still likely to be the mouthy person imo if they’re getting physically aggressive.

 

[UOAP]

You can believe what you want to believe, and you can do what you want to do. But as of last week, there have been 10 COVID-19 deaths under the age of 14, and 48 between the ages of 15-24.

While all of those are sad and tragic, making this about children dying is really mis-stating the science of the situation.

Maybe you weren't following the entire thread about this issue. This was about a specific syndrome that children were getting after recovering from COVID that they only just started identifying last week. We already discussed that it was rare.