Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[LSUmiss]

this is fascinating. We have July 12-21st at the Poly. Magic kingdom area so this seems like good news.

We have 7/26-8/2 at poly. But if it’s still just mk, we’ll cut trip a little short. Don’t need that many days.

 

[OnceUponATime15]

DVC members all got emails yesterday detailing how DVC bookings, borrowing, banking or holding points from year to year will be changing for the foreseeable future.. .

With these changes and the number of members needing to make changes to current bookings now, it only makes sense that Member services CMs would have information needed to advise members and help with their queries
(and not book them into DVC resorts that will not be open due to opening restrictions that must be met)

 

[godisney14]

Which doesn’t really make much sense. Let’s say movie theaters open with 50% theater capacity. You’ll find far more people at a grocery store, target, or Walmart, literally at any given time during business hours.And those people are touching things, putting them back on shelves. 100s of hands could touch a box of cereal before it’s purchased. Not to mention how many people you’re passing without 6 feet of space. While at movie theaters you’re sitting in one seat, isolated by at least 6 feet from anyone other than people you’re already in close contact with at home. What are you touching in a movie theater? Seat, arm rest, maybe the railing on the stairs walking up to your seat?

the difference between those stores and a movie theater is that they’re essential businesses, while movie theaters aren’t. But if you ask me where I’d feel safer from catching a virus? It’s movie theater every day

At least in my area, it would have to be less than 50%. Half of the theaters near me aren’t even 6ft apart between alternating seats and not 6 ft apart between rows.

But, I don’t know how stringent the 6ft recommendations will be when airlines are at the very best only 2 ft apart in economy, even with just 50% capacity.

 

[halfpintpeggy]

because there is no argument to make. You have a better chance at catching a virus when you walk by 200 different people, while also touching items on a shelf than you do sitting in one chair, 6 feet away from 200 people for the duration of the movie. It’s really not that difficult. More common sense than anything

All of the movie theaters in my area have the large, reclining seats that you mentioned. They really do not hold a lot of people. But beside all that - whenever we go there might be between 5 & 10 other people there watching the movie? They’re just never crowded. Maybe because there are so many different screens? IDK?

 

[juice0358]

Which doesn’t really make much sense. Let’s say movie theaters open with 50% theater capacity. You’ll find far more people at a grocery store, target, or Walmart, literally at any given time during business hours.And those people are touching things, putting them back on shelves. 100s of hands could touch a box of cereal before it’s purchased. Not to mention how many people you’re passing without 6 feet of space. While at movie theaters you’re sitting in one seat, isolated by at least 6 feet from anyone other than people you’re already in close contact with at home. What are you touching in a movie theater? Seat, arm rest, maybe the railing on the stairs walking up to your seat?

the difference between those stores and a movie theater is that they’re essential businesses, while movie theaters aren’t. But if you ask me where I’d feel safer from catching a virus? It’s movie theater every day

I disagree with this strongly, I'll take my chances in a grocery store where i pass someone for a second that may be infected versus sitting by someone for 3 hours that maybe infected. It's not close, not to mention going to watch a movie is not on my MUST do list weekly, Netflix and Disney+ are just fine for the time being.

 

[juice0358]

because there is no argument to make. You have a better chance at catching a virus when you walk by 200 different people, while also touching items on a shelf than you do sitting in one chair, 6 feet away from 200 people for the duration of the movie. It’s really not that difficult. More common sense than anything

Dude nothing about your argument involves common sense. It is the most non essential thing you can do and you're in a room for hours, with the AC just circulating the virus if just ONE person is infected.

 

[Mit88]

At least in my area, it would have to be less than 50%. Half of the theaters near me aren’t even 6ft apart between alternating seats and not 6 ft apart between rows.

But, I don’t know how stringent the 6ft recommendations will be when airlines are at the very best only 2 ft apart in economy, even with just 50% capacity.

which is likely (opening theaters to less than 50%), i was just making a reference point.In all likelihood, because right now the only 3 major tent pole films coming out between July and August are Tenent, Mulan, and Wonder Woman. And those are each individually rumored to play on most, if not all screens while they’re in theaters to offer more showings to lessen capacity in each individual theater.

Let’s say, a 200 seat theater. 10 seats per row, 20 rows. Depending on group size, you could have between 4-6 people per row, while skipping every other row which would give you 20-25% capacity, which seems more likely than 50%.

 

[Mit88]

Dude nothing about your argument involves common sense. It is the most non essential thing you can do and you're in a room for hours, with the AC just circulating the virus if just ONE person is infected.

Grocery stores arent going to have AC circulating the virus? And thats many more people that are interchanging, touching things. Theres a far better chance that you’re going to encounter someone with the virus if youre in a store for 30 minutes than you ever will in one room, with the same people for the entire duration.

Do you feel safer while in a HM buggy, or in line waiting for one?

You’re assuming that people are going to be packed into movie theaters like sardines. You can regulate spacing in a movie theater. You cant regulate spacing when there are physically moving parts

 

[sghokie]

All of the movie theaters in my area have the large, reclining seats that you mentioned. They really do not hold a lot of people. But beside all that - whenever we go there might be between 5 & 10 other people there watching the movie? They’re just never crowded. Maybe because there are so many different screens? IDK?

Dont you remember that movie outbreak where all the people in a movie theater get infected? Well it was just a movie.
But more recently wasn't there an incident were 75 people went to a choir practice and they were trying to practice safety. Most of them became infected and several people have died since.

 

[TwoMisfits]

Dont you remember that movie outbreak where all the people in a movie theater get infected? Well it was just a movie.
But more recently wasn't there an incident were 75 people went to a choir practice and they were trying to practice safety. Most of them became infected and several people have died since.
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Choirs purposely stand very close together...and in singing, they normally lose spit into the air...

An hour long practice, and yeah, that's gonna be an issue, even if everyone isn't shaking hands...

 

[Mit88]

At least in my area, it would have to be less than 50%. Half of the theaters near me aren’t even 6ft apart between alternating seats and not 6 ft apart between rows.

But, I don’t know how stringent the 6ft recommendations will be when airlines are at the very best only 2 ft apart in economy, even with just 50% capacity.

Thats how my local theater is. If I see a new release on a Sunday, theres more often times that there are 10 people or less, many times its just the two of us, than a packed theater. Outside of seeing Marvel movies on opening night, I always choose seats that has 1-2 extra seats between me. For the most part, theater goers will choose an empty row, if they can, not sit in a seat next to strangers, and thats before this pandemic. I’ve never met anyone that goes to a movie and seeks out sitting next to a bunch of strangers if they have the ability to have empty seat(s) between.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Hmm I have a lot of feelings about this.
1. I'm not being dismissive, and I'm grateful that this poster shared her conversation she had with the DVC Member Services CM. But I personally am not going to change my vacation plans until I get a direct press release from Disney outlying their plans.
2. It kinda bothers me that they are saying MK area resorts only.... so only deluxe. I feel bad for people who have trips booked at moderate & values that may have their vacations cancelled because only the expensive resorts are open. Doesn't seem fair to me. (and before anyone starts, I know life's not fair - but it doesn't seem very "Disney" to me)

I get your point with #2, but at the same time even if they are opening in this way (MK only, partial MK really) everyone's vacations are "cancelled" in a way. Anyone who wants a vacation and not just a taste of Disney should be moving their own vacation. It's such a limited experience, that I don't think you'll find too many people annoyed their resort was closed, as I think we would see most people who have full blown vacations planned in this phase postponing.

 

[Music City Mama]

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242289281.html
From the article Movie theatres and no in person sports will be opening in phase 1. That pretty much confirms no Disney opening in phase 1.

I didn't take it that the "phase 1" that the CM referenced was the state of Florida's phase 1 -- I would assume that Florida's will happen much sooner than June 15th -- I took it to mean WDW's internal phase 1.

With that said, who knows how accurate this is.

 

[Mit88]

Dont you remember that movie outbreak where all the people in a movie theater get infected? Well it was just a movie.
But more recently wasn't there an incident were 75 people went to a choir practice and they were trying to practice safety. Most of them became infected and several people have died since.

A Walmart in Colorado closed down because 3 workers died, and 6 additional workers tested positive. When you walk into an essential business, youre not walking into a safety bubble where the virus cant go. There is risk of infection wherever you go, essential or not, except your own house, not touching mail, not ordering food, just sheltered with nothing. Thats the only way youre 100% safe from this thing. You can do measures than make you feel safe, but you’ll never be 100% safe if you go to places, interacting with potential vessels.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I’m guessing.. guessing. that all guests who booked summer trips before this covid nightmare began will be taken care of by disney somehow - could be upgraded, now if possible or later if necessary.. pretty sure something will be done, if past history is the predictor.

For those who made new bookings once covid hit hoping for the best - that could be a technicality that may not be ignored. Time will tell.

For those who rebooked using the free dining for previously cancelled spring trips - disney made good once - there is no reason to think there isn’t a new offer coming if your trip is affected.

Phase one will not last months if the viral spread is managed or contained. Once phase two hits it should mean more resorts and additional parks.

Disney needs a way to test the waters - what was posted allows that and allows things to be modified both good and not so good. Guest safety has to be the priority or the PR nightmare created could damage the standing of the company.

I don't think Disney is going to do anything for cancelled reservations beyond an average discount like they did for those of us already impacted by the closure. My guess is an extension of the free dining discount for people impacted. I don't see upgrades, unless it's needed to move people from a closed resort to an open one during the phased opening process.

The free dining discount ranges from great to useless depending who you ask. It certainly was not an across the board "Disney taking care of impacted guests". I don't necessarily think they needed to do more, but I wouldn't count on them going above and beyond for bookings June 1st and on that may be impacted.

 

[xuxa777]

Why is there a debate about walmarts, choir practices, and movie theaters here? Let keep in on topic.

 

[Mit88]

Why is there a debate about walmarts, choir practices, and movie theaters here? Let keep in on topic.

I take the blame, I apologize.

 

[AtlantaDisneyDreamer]

I am a little stuck on the no-fastpasses plan that Finn or Flynn or whatever his name talked about. If there are going to be no fastpasses and they are certain of that already, then what a disservice they are doing to all of us who plan and get up early and spend a lot of time booking the perfect fastpasses. If there is some sort of new system, maybe they can roll people's existing fastpasses over into the new system?

Maybe fastpasses won't even be necessary, if as many people don't go who say they aren't going based on all of the rumored modifications and extreme limitations.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Why is there a debate about walmarts, choir practices, and movie theaters here? Let keep in on topic.

I think the problem throughout has been off topic is kind of grey and that's why it happens so often.

Someone brings up some non Disney venue or COVID development to support their opinion on some Disney related point, which IMO is as on topic as any other speculation. Still kind of grey as people talk about why said venue or development does or does not apply to Disney. Then it turns into an entirely off topic when the back and forth surrounding *just* Walmart or whatever starts.

 

[abnihon]

I am a little stuck on the no-fastpasses plan that Finn or Flynn or whatever his name is talked about. If there are going to be no fastpasses and they are certain of that already, then what a disservice they are doing to all of us who plan and get up early and spend a lot of time booking the perfect fastpasses. If there is some sort of new system, maybe they can roll people's existing fastpasses over into the new system?

Maybe fastpasses won't even be necessary, if as many people don't go who say they aren't going based on all of the rumored modifications and extreme limitations.

His name is Sven! Keep up!