Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[xuxa777]

I am hopeful for a mid June to July 1 opening. With that time frame I could see things at WDW look somewhat similar to what we all know and love by what...August 1?

Similar to what we know and love, probably not till vaccine, but parks will be open in August, IMHO

 

[rteetz]

New talking points!

https://blogmickey.com/2020/04/well...-attendance-will-take-two-years-to-normalize/

 

[lilypgirl]

I don't disagree with some of your assessment. But here is the thing about "June 1st realistic" etc etc. You are right that there is a good chance the numbers will be dwindling by June. BUT, if we just go back to business-as-usual, the numbers will skyrocket again. The current curve is based on the distancing measures currently being taken. Go back to business as usual, the numbers spike again... we go back to 2,000-3,000 deaths per day. The death numbers we are seeing now, are based on our behavior 3-4 weeks ago, when distancing was not in effect in most places in the US. If we just "re-open," then 2 months later, we will be right back to where we are now.

You say this with such certainty! ? Dr. Fucci himself said that the next wave will probably be late fall early winter so why not open up let people who want to be there go and then take the necessary precautions when or if that time happens.

 

[Jroceagles]

Similar to what we know and love, probably not till vaccine, but parks will be open in August, IMHO

We are booked for 1st week in September so we are just watching and hoping. Trying to avoid discussing with the kids...they are already struggling with the new norm.

 

[mshanson3121]

New talking points!

https://blogmickey.com/2020/04/well...-attendance-will-take-two-years-to-normalize/

Pretty much what some of us have already been saying - Disney won't be back to normal for a long time.

This brings discussion back around to - if Disney has to significantly reduce capacity to accommodate social distancing measures, do we think they will jack the prices to compensate? Or is that too risky given the recession we will be in? Or will they just compensate in other ways we've already seen proposed such as cutting back operating hours, staffing, shows and entertainment etc...?

 

[Joe in VA]

Looks like Vegas casinos are really eyeing a 5/1 opening. These are two separate corporations, which both started promoting 5/1 yesterday. I post this because it is a similar industry based on large amounts of people gathering from far away. Nevada's economy is as single industry based as Orlando, imho.

I would expect casinos to be more aggressive in reopening than Disney, as they don't are not as diversified as Disney.

 

[yankeesfan123]

Pretty much what some of us have already been saying - Disney won't be back to normal for a long time. ☹

This brings discussion back around to - if Disney has to significantly reduce capacity to accommodate social distancing measures, do we think they will jack the prices to compensate? Or is that too risky given the recession we will be in? Or will they just compensate in other ways we've already seen proposed such as cutting back operating hours, staffing, shows and entertainment etc...?

Right, same talking points, just someone from Wells Fargo making them rather than us lol.

I think we will see lower crowds but longer lines thanks to a decrease in staffing and some sort of cleaning measures needed on ride vehicles.

Too bad black lights don’t kill the virus.

 

[xuxa777]

New talking points!

https://blogmickey.com/2020/04/well...-attendance-will-take-two-years-to-normalize/

Wells Fargo down grade, while done yesterday is based on older info. It is super conservative guidance and an outlier, average target is $137. The economic downturn we are going to face will affect the attendance for the next year or so, but not two years. Economic issues will hurt much worse than any medical/virus issue.

 

[yankeesfan123]

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Looks like Vegas casinos are really eyeing a 5/1 opening. These are two separate corporations, which both started promoting 5/1 yesterday. I post this because it is a similar industry based on large amounts of people gathering from far away. Nevada's economy is as single industry based as Orlando, imho.

I would expect casinos to be more aggressive in reopening than Disney, as they don't are not as diversified as Disney.

Yet MLB is talking about playing their entire season, from June-October, in complete isolation from fans and, more importantly, their own family.

 

[xuxa777]

Yet MLB is talking about playing their entire season, from June-October, in complete isolation from fans and, more importantly, their own family.

That will change I bet

 

[rteetz]

Pretty much what some of us have already been saying - Disney won't be back to normal for a long time. ☹

This brings discussion back around to - if Disney has to significantly reduce capacity to accommodate social distancing measures, do we think they will jack the prices to compensate? Or is that too risky given the recession we will be in? Or will they just compensate in other ways we've already seen proposed such as cutting back operating hours, staffing, shows and entertainment etc...?

I think that depends on how bad the recession is.

 

[xuxa777]

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Looks like Vegas casinos are really eyeing a 5/1 opening. These are two separate corporations, which both started promoting 5/1 yesterday. I post this because it is a similar industry based on large amounts of people gathering from far away. Nevada's economy is as single industry based as Orlando, imho.

I would expect casinos to be more aggressive in reopening than Disney, as they don't are not as diversified as Disney.

Going to see a lot more of that in the next few days, opening dates in May, A lot of non essentials will be able to go back after the middle of the month. Stay at homes will mostly be lifted by 4/30 if not a bit sooner.

 

[J-BOY]

New talking points!

https://blogmickey.com/2020/04/well...-attendance-will-take-two-years-to-normalize/

Just wanted to say I appreciate your good attitude while maintaining the thread. I know some of us (especially me) are pains about discussing non-Disney information here.

In regards to your post, I don't doubt any of it. I can foresee Disney really struggling to get back to the place they were before all of this. They'll definitely be attracting visitors, but it's going to be a long time before we ever see crowds like we have in the past year.

 

[jerry557]

Pretty much what some of us have already been saying - Disney won't be back to normal for a long time. ☹

This brings discussion back around to - if Disney has to significantly reduce capacity to accommodate social distancing measures, do we think they will jack the prices to compensate? Or is that too risky given the recession we will be in? Or will they just compensate in other ways we've already seen proposed such as cutting back operating hours, staffing, shows and entertainment etc...?

I wouldnt think there will be much changing in the pricing model. I think it's more likely they contract on other areas to meet demand (ie: staffing) and save money on that side of it. They are furloughing employees, laying off others, ending contracts, and suspending foreign worker and intern programs. It makes sense to do this until they figure out how much staff they are going to need and at what time. Park hours could be reduced. Certain shows and experiences could be suspended or canceled. Those are all moves that would make sense to meet lower demand.

 

[MassJester]

I am entertained by the fact that even though there is no surety that the parks will be open, it's still not possible to get a brunch reservation at the California Grill on July 17th. Hope springs eternal.

 

[Thecouch]

I know in Australia in my state they are pretty confident they have the curve under control (not at peak yet but) and already some talk about lifting restrictions early may on restaurants and out door activities.

I could see disney springs opening up way before the parks. Maybe a few hotels in that area and offer big discount for people within the state who will be looking for some fun after lockdown. Sounds like local politicians weren't in favour of the lockdown so might lift restrictions pretty quick. Being able to travel from other states might be More difficult depending on where on the curve they are. (no chance for us international till probably end of year anyway)

 

[Dave006]

I am entertained by the fact that even though there is no surety that the parks will be open, it's still not possible to get a brunch reservation at the California Grill on July 17th. Hope springs eternal.

Well many guests booked their brunch for July 17 at the 180 day mark when the world had a different outlook (pre Covid-19). Just keep watching as the outlook for July becomes a little clearer.

Dave

 

[Spridell]

FWIW

Christmas party tickets and dates were just released this morning.

I highly doubt Disney would do this unless they know they will be in full swing by Holiday Time.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

right?!?! I was looking on etsy the other day at masks and was surprised by the lack of disney themed masks. Ended up buying a Marvel themed one, but would have gotten a decent looking Disney one right off the bat

I’m pretty sure opening up a disney-themed mask making business through etsy is a really quick way to get a cease and desist letter from Disney.

 

[xuxa777]

I’m pretty sure opening up a disney-themed mask making business through etsy is a really quick way to get a cease and desist letter from Disney.

Have you seen all the quasi "Disney" stuff on Etsy, that is too big of a whack a mole game for them to control, no matter how hard they try.