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Not sure I get why people are saying the NBA wouldn’t go to the parks. Don’t a lot Of the have kids they’d be traveling with? I would think a big part of the deal would be a semi private Magic Kingdom.
The entire point is a quarantined bubble. Encountering CMs who have not been in the bubble breaks the bubble. Millions of dollars & months of planning down the drain for a break from boredom? That’s a no.
 
I think Disney will not open for a while. Many Regional Theme parks have not even opened yet. Six Flags has yet to open one park. In order for a Disney to open they have to be able to open it safely and make money. They do not want to hire and pay all these CMs if no one is going to show up. With Universal not requiring any type of reservation, I suspect they believe the turn out is going to be very low. They sent out surveys several weeks ago and I bet the surveys showed that people do not want to come even if you paid them. So they figured they do not need to have a reservation system. Six flags and all other major chains have sent out surveys. They know what the demand is, and I think the demand is low for Disney and most theme parks right now and so they do not want to open and pay all theses CM's and no one shows up.
 
Ppl aren’t mad b/c they aren’t opening. Ppl are mad b/c they’re continuing to take their money & string ppl along with absolutely no communication.
Yeah, at this point, with Universal being so much more communicative, and with months of research and data, and with Shanghai reopened and the data from that, I feel strongly that they need to provide concrete information and not just he rolling cancellation.

I feel hopeful that we will learn some concrete information this upcoming week.
 
One thing I am pretty certain of, they would not have offered the free dining deal if they didn’t at some point believe June 1 was a viable option.

I have always believed this. But that only confirms my suspicions that if they don’t open by July at least, it’s because of the NBA deal. There has been nothing that would have caused them to delay that long if they truly thought they could open June 1.

That also absolutely rules out the notion that getting the NBA deal is going to allow them to open later ( for safety reasons) as they supposedly originally planned, rather than push to open because of Universal,. It can’t be both- they can’t not know when they’re opening and be able to go back to their original planned opening date at the same time.
 

The masks are one thing, my fear which i posted a while back is people are going to call out older people, or heavier people etc.... for being there.

We all know whenever the parks do open older people WILL show up, heavier people WILL show up, etc...... I just hope their are not fights over that.
Who cares?? Who determines what’s considered heavy from a medical standpoint in the parks. Or who is older? Ppl don’t always look their age. Do ppl just not have the ability to mind their business?!
ETA: htn is the number 1 comorbidity & you can’t see who has that!
 
And THAT will be interesting to see. Media coverage of tons of people being turned away from Universal will not be a good look for them and something Disney, I assume, will be watching closely.



WDW and DL have significantly changed their cancellation and modification policies to ensure no one will lose money on room-only and package reservations. I canceled my package reservation 5 days prior to check-in and received 100% of my money back including my deposit, which, at that time, they were not obligated to refund. If people want to be outraged over travel companies holding on to huge deposits, playing chicken with cancellations and forcing people to either PIF or taking future travel credits, I invite them over to the DCL and ABD threads. WDW could have been major jerks about package deposits and force people to either cancel and lose $200 or reschedule at possibly higher vacation costs so as not to lose $200, but they didn't. If you look around the current climate in the travel industry, what WDW did in modifying their policies is the exception, not the rule.
And Universal did a huge one better than Disney. They said people buying tickets while this was going down could get refunds. Disney said those people can suck it and apply the value to another ticket later.
 
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Regarding speculation on the NBA And where they would be staying, has anyone noticed a specific hotel’s restaurants ADRs unavailable?
 
Who cares?? Who determines what’s considered heavy from a medical standpoint in the parks. Or who is older? Ppl don’t always look their age. Do ppl just not have the ability to mind their business?!
ETA: htn is the number 1 comorbidity & you can’t see who has that!
I am with you on the WHO CARES

Unfortunately not everyone is like that though.
 
It’s not about taking their kids to Disney, but if their families come their kids will be in Disney and while I think whenever they want it access to the parks or even one isn’t happening, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some sort of park time worked into the deal, even just at the end.
After you get eliminated from the playoff tournament you are free to leave the bubble and if you do you will not be readmittws

you can go to the park then

honestly if I’m a pro athlete engaged in a winner take all playoff scenario the last thing I would want is my wife/kids stuck in the same room with me for months as I try and focus.
 
The majority of people that think its over are the ones that also think it never began. There are a lot of people, like myself, that know how real and dangerous this virus is, but also know that its either live inside for the next 2-3 years, or move on with their lives and know its out there and to stay vigilant. A vaccine isnt coming to save us, not anytime soon, no matter how hard the possibility of one is being shoved into our heads by the media
Yeah, none of the references to wait to reopen to Sept 1st or the Fall make that much sense to me. This pandemic will not go away anytime soon. It’s not going to be completely “safe” anywhere (except your house) for a long time. There won’t be an approved treatment, a vaccine or remotely close to 0 cases for a very long time, especially since businesses are reopening. It’s not like Sept 1 or Oct 1 will suddenly be “safe.” But, we also cannot stay home until it’s completely safe again. People need to get back to work. People crave some sense of normalcy. But, reopening has to be done with safety and health in mind. Disney knows the conditions that make the spread ideal: close proximity, spread of droplets, indoors, putting hands with the virus on the face. Disney knows the conditions that help reduce spread: distancing, everyone wears masks, frequent hand washing and sanitation. Disney knows all this and, for the last few months, they have been translating all this knowledge into procedures.
 
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Regarding speculation on the NBA And where they would be staying, has anyone noticed a specific hotel’s restaurants ADRs unavailable?
For some time now, Grand Destino Towers have been unavailable. This past Friday, all of CSR, all of CR and all CL rooms at every deluxe are not available. They open back up Sept1. Granted, I haven’t tried e dry date in July or August, but I’ve tried a bunch.
 
The masks are one thing, my fear which i posted a while back is people are going to call out older people, or heavier people etc.... for being there.

We all know whenever the parks do open older people WILL show up, heavier people WILL show up, etc...... I just hope their are not fights over that.
I don’t think anyone will care because someone being obese or over 60 visiting the parks does not affect anyone else’s chances of COVID spread.

What does affect everyone else’s chance of COVID spread is if a guest is not wearing a mask or not washing / sanitizing their hands or not keeping their distance.
 
They have not been with anyone who has been cancelled so far. I don’t think that will change.

That is disappointing to hear - would be good guest received very and I am sure they will eventually have to have discounts to get people back
 
Yeah, none of the references to wait to reopen to Sept 1st or the Fall make that much sense to me. This pandemic will not go away anytime soon. It’s not going to be completely “safe” anywhere (except your house) for a long time. There won’t be an approved treatment, a vaccine or remotely close to 0 cases for a very long time, especially since businesses are reopening. But, we also cannot stay home until it’s completely safe again. People need to get back to work. People crave some sense of normalcy. But, reopening has to be done with safety and health in mind. Disney knows the conditions that make the spread ideal: close proximity, spread of droplets, indoors, putting hands with the virus on the face. Disney knows the conditions that help reduce spread: distancing, everyone wears masks, frequent hand washing and sanitation. Disney knows all this and, for the last few months, they have been translating all this knowledge into procedures.

Nailed it right on the head.

I dont think anywhere in Disney's internal plans were they thinking on waiting until Sept or longer to open.

I am sure since the day they closed in March plans were drawn up for a re-opening.
 
Yeah, at this point, with Universal being so much more communicative, and with months of research and data, and with Shanghai reopened and the data from that, I feel strongly that they need to provide concrete information and not just he rolling cancellation.

I feel hopeful that we will learn some concrete information this upcoming week.
This exactly. They have data from Shanghai. They know what is happening in Florida/the US in general from the task force- I doubt Universal is opening with no data to base it on. They need to communicate what is happening. Or say they don't like the data they have seen/have concerns/whatever and how they will make amends once they open. They would get MUCH more goodwill around this decision (IMO) if they extend the current policies or offer some kind of compensatory incentive for people who have had plans canceled. The biggest issues they have "dropped the ball" on are:
1. DVC- take the concern out of the 30 day revert to holding policy for a period of time after the opening date is announced. That would certainly help the anxiety many of us are feeling about the plans we have made/possible canceling prematurely. Many of us feel that they could reverse that policy at any moment and we'd be stuck. A reassurance that it won't happen would go a long way. There are banking windows coming up and people looking at losing points because they have jobs that don't allow for them to visit whenever they want. The points situation currently is a mess and about to get worse.
2. Tickets- I agree that making them non-expiring for a year or two might also help this situation. Allowing refunds would also go a long way in easing peoples' anxiety.
3. Communication in general- all the cloak and dagger stuff while many of us have been conditioned to plan 180 days out? Not helpful. Give us some useful information so we can either move ahead with our plans or find an alternative.
 
That is disappointing to hear - would be good guest received very and I am sure they will eventually have to have discounts to get people back
They didn’t even honor the rebooking offer they gave to people who lost a trip over Spring who unfortunately chose the first couple weeks of June. No new offer and no they would not transfer the old one.
 
I know my risks with a summer trip. I am not entitled, nor will I go against the rules.
As far as people not accepting reality- seeing MDE open for all bookings, experiences, dining etc, it gives people a false sense of normal and excites expectations.
I guess if they have no intentions of opening and know it, they should announce and close off all bookings/extras/dining, instead of allowing all the bookings still. I feel bad for people thinking they are planning a fun-filled trip with all that shows available...
I agree. It seems to me that it is unlikely they are reopening with buffets with character meets, but all of those can still be booked. Unless they are planning to do what they did in Shanghai with the characters doing a little parade? And FPs are available for character meets. Are they going to have those? Maybe with some “barrier” and distancing in place?

I’m talking about people who are still purchasing tickets now, as that is what I thought the poster I quoted was referring to.
Well, you need tickets if you are going to make FPs. And if you are going to the parks you need FPs. So, I don’t see how guests can avoid purchasing tickets now for their July trips.
 
Yeah, none of the references to wait to reopen to Sept 1st or the Fall make that much sense to me. This pandemic will not go away anytime soon. It’s not going to be completely “safe” anywhere (except your house) for a long time. There won’t be an approved treatment, a vaccine or remotely close to 0 cases for a very long time, especially since businesses are reopening. But, we also cannot stay home until it’s completely safe again. People need to get back to work. People crave some sense of normalcy. But, reopening has to be done with safety and health in mind. Disney knows the conditions that make the spread ideal: close proximity, spread of droplets, indoors, putting hands with the virus on the face. Disney knows the conditions that help reduce spread: distancing, everyone wears masks, frequent hand washing and sanitation. Disney knows all this and, for the last few months, they have been translating all this knowledge into procedures.
Agreed. I think their biggest issue is trying to balance all of that and keep the Disney Magic. IMO if Disney wants to open they need to lose some of that magic. If they want guests to wear masks they need to strictly enforce it. Keep reminding people as often as needed.
 
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