Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Mit88]

Before you try to start fights with your fellow posters, perhaps you should re-read the posts you’re referencing. There was much discussion surrounding the need to have these in place well before an opening for testing, training, etc... It’s not just about putting stickers down and throwing open the gates. From calling back TMs to reworking queues and stores and restaurants to restarting supply chains to testing guest flow, there’s a lot that has to be done before a park reopens. And based on what we’ve seen from other parks, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s even more (barricades, etc...) that have yet to be installed.

Also note that even though we’re seeing these on May 16, we’re still two weeks before the earliest possible reopening date.

I didn’t try and start any fights. Nor did I say that this was any indication of a quick opening. Disney is able to do these types of things in a matter of hours. Some thought that it would take weeks. The training, ordering new food supplies and merchandise, ordering hundreds of thousands of “complimentary” single use masks will take the longest.

I doubt they’re (Universal) even opening in 2 weeks, probably a little more. But these are types of things that eventually needed to be done, no matter how long it took, might as well get it out of the way now

 

[orangetree]

I am so curious about how rope drop will work.

this is a good question! i wonder too, maybe they'll not to a "rope drop" in the same way, but make guests still slowly filter in at opening. maybe they'll even have a time frame that you are allowed to enter at or something (i have no evidence for this nor do i think its necessary, only saying this to avoid arguments due to misunderstanding of what im trying to say, dont want to argue about hypotheticals)

 

[Brianstl]

That's not quite correct. Here's one article for you to read on the National Law Review. There are others that I posted a link to on post #11,745.

https://www.natlawreview.com/articl...s-business-owners-requiring-face-masks-retail

The state of Florida doesn’t have an order requiring that everyone entering any business must wear masks. If the state had that requirement WDW would have a somewhat shaky leg to stand on, but they don’t. Disney will get sued and lose if they refuse to make accommodations for ADA reasons.

 

[Jrb1979]

I am so curious about how rope drop will work.

I wouldn't be surprised if you have to reserve your time to enter the park.

 

[Mit88]

The state of Florida doesn’t have an order requiring that everyone entering any business must wear masks. If the state had that requirement WDW would have a somewhat shaky leg to stand on, but they don’t. Disney will get sued and lose if they refuse to make accommodations for ADA reasons.

Disney is private property. They can do what they want. You don’t want to follow rules, they don’t have to let you in

 

[andyman8]

I didn’t try and start any fights. Nor did I say that this was any indication of a quick opening. Disney is able to do these types of things in a matter of hours. Some thought that it would take weeks. The training, ordering new food supplies and merchandise, ordering hundreds of thousands of “complimentary” single use masks will take the longest.

I doubt they’re (Universal) even opening in 2 weeks, probably a little more. But these are types of things that eventually needed to be done, no matter how long it took, might as well get it out of the way now

Then we’re in agreement!

 

[Brianstl]

The CDC has designated Covid as a public health emergency .


ay a Business Have a Policy Turning Away Customers Who Refuse to Wear Face Masks?
Likely yes, for the time being. The ADA generally prohibits eligibility/screening criteria that tend to exclude individuals based on a disability, unless the criteria are necessary for the business to operate safely in providing its goods and services. Those requirements must be based on actual risks and may not be based on speculation, stereotypes, or generalizations about people with disabilities. At this time, businesses concerned about the safety of their staff and customers should be justified in relying upon guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), as well as state and local governments’ orders, to justify policies forbidding customers without face masks from entering their stores.

There are absolutely zero CDC, Florida or Orange County orders requiring everyone to wear masks.

 

[Krandor]

I am so curious about how rope drop will work.

Disney may do it differently but what Six Flags is doing with their reservation system is you are reserving not just a date but a time in order to limit how many people are at the gates at one. Once you are in you can stay the rest of the day. So their typical let people through the turnstyles open and then "rope drop" just isn't happening like that. Not saying that is what disney is doing but that is what six flags is doing.

 

[Janet McDonald]

I wouldn't be surprised if you have to reserve your time to enter the park.

I wonder if table service reservations or fast pass times would be considered for entry times?
(...goes to make breakfast ADR’s for every park day )

 

[Mit88]

Disney may do it differently but what Six Flags is doing with their reservation system is you are reserving not just a date but a time in order to limit how many people are at the gates at one. Once you are in you can stay the rest of the day. So their typical let people through the turnstyles open and then "rope drop" just isn't happening like that. Not saying that is what disney is doing but that is what six flags is doing.

I believe SDL is doing it the same way by letting waves of groups go in at a time

 

[wombat_5606]

The state of Florida doesn’t have an order requiring that everyone entering any business must wear masks. If the state had that requirement WDW would have a somewhat shaky leg to stand on, but they don’t. Disney will get sued and lose if they refuse to make accommodations for ADA reasons.

Disney is private property. They can do what they want. You don’t want to follow rules, they don’t have to let you in

It's a protection put into place in the middle of a government-recognized(state and federal) public health emergency.

I have no problem saying I'm wrong if it happens any other way. I'm not trying to deny anyone entrance to Disney. I'm merely trying to point people to sources of information.

 

[Mit88]

I wonder if table service reservations or fast pass times would be considered for entry times?
(...goes to make breakfast ADR’s for every park day )

I don’t think FP or Table service reservations will exist at least for the first couple of weeks/months. They already showed that they were testing a wider use of virtual queues in late March. And I think in Park ADRs have been cancelled for the time being

 

[andyman8]

I believe SDL is doing it the same way by letting waves of groups go in at a time

Yes, Shanghai Disneyland has reservations for both a specific date and a specific time window. They also have half-day tickets that start at about 2pm (these were not offered before the closure to the general public). WDW of course may be more complicated, given how many guests have multi-day tickets and tickets that have already been purchased.

 

[Krandor]

I don’t think FP or Table service reservations will exist at least for the first couple of weeks/months. They already showed that they were testing a wider use of virtual queues in late March. And I think in Park ADRs have been cancelled for the time being

Or in a way FP or some version of FP/BG could be all you have and no standby lines.

 

[yulilin3]

The state of Florida doesn’t have an order requiring that everyone entering any business must wear masks. If the state had that requirement WDW would have a somewhat shaky leg to stand on, but they don’t. Disney will get sued and lose if they refuse to make accommodations for ADA reasons.

Orange county has an executive order requiring masks to be worn

 

[SaintsManiac]

I wouldn't be surprised if you have to reserve your time to enter the park.

That would definitely make the most sense.

 

[Krandor]

Yes, Shanghai Disneyland has reservations for both a specific date and a specific time window. They also have half-day tickets that start at about 2pm (these were not offered before the closure to the general public). WDW of course may be more complicated, given how many guests have multi-day tickets and tickets that have already been purchased.

WDW is more complicated but I think some form of reservation system is going to be in place when they open. The question is what form it takes and how ADR, park hopper, FP, etc work with it. They could do things like if you have a FP you have a reservation for that park that day (no park hopping) and your entry time is 30 minutes prior to first FP. Just one example of things they could do.

I'm of the opinion some some of resevation/slotted arrival time system will be in place. Just no idea what it is will look like for WDW.

 

[Mit88]

Or in a way FP or some version of FP/BG could be all you have and no standby lines.

Maybe when you buy a ticket, or reserve using your AP, you choose a park entrance time, and then they’ll set up some sort of FP/BG page for people with specific times that you enter the park so that you don’t have ex. Someone with a park entrance time of 10:30 being able to get a FP/BG for earlier than 10:30? Idk. Seems like a lot of work to set up new systems like that. Probably looking far too deep into it and making it harder than it needs to be

 

[Brianstl]

Disney is private property. They can do what they want. You don’t want to follow rules, they don’t have to let you in

Private property owner who open a business to the public have to abide by the ADA. If they don’t they get sued and lose. I am not even saying that I personally agree with it, but it is the law.

Personally, I would wear a mask at WDW now and for foreseeable future if they are required or not.

 

[andyman8]

WDW is more complicated but I think some form of reservation system is going to be in place when they open. The question is what form it takes and how ADR, park hopper, FP, etc work with it. They could do things like if you have a FP you have a reservation for that park that day (no park hopping) and your entry time is 30 minutes prior to first FP. Just one example of things they could do.

I'm of the opinion some some of resevation/slotted arrival time system will be in place. Just no idea what it is will look like for WDW.

I agree; we've seem them do it with the FlexPass AP over at DLR, so I think something like that is absolutely coming, but you're right. There will be a lot of wrinkles that need to be worked out.