Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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I could pretty easily see them holding out a little longer. Nothing on the scale of half the year, but a few more weeks anyway.

Disney is super image conscious. They won't run the risk of headlines reading "Second Wave Corona Virus Outbreak at Disney!"

Other states are opening up right now or by the end of the week, including the two states directly to the north of Florida.

I think June 1, which is the earliest date WDW is taking reservations for, is probably the date. Even if Florida has a phased reopening through the month of May, WDW and the other theme parks can be last in line for that.

To be honest, I don't think Florida can announce a re-opening plan without WDW announcing it's plans as well. The two are intertwined too closely to the economic and employment success of Florida.
 
was it overlooked, or was your casual guest in denial?

A little column A, a little column B

I could pretty easily see them holding out a little longer. Nothing on the scale of half the year, but a few more weeks anyway.

Disney is super image conscious. They won't run the risk of headlines reading "Second Wave Corona Virus Outbreak at Disney!"

Like I said, if they (Disney) don’t think they’re 100% ready, yes, they’ll wait after the OK from DeSantis until they are ready. They’re not going to be hasty in opening up just to open up, because they ARE image conscious. But they also know that they’re never going to please everyone. They never have, they never will. There are a lot of people that are loving the struggled position Disney is in right now and hope they never reopen, and they’ll be the first to claim Disney “re-opened too soon” without even knowing the steps Disney is taking for safety.

The media was chomping at the bit to find people from the final few days that Disney was open after making the closure announcement that became infected. They found one person, who was also at a conference in Orlando and said “He got it from Disney!”. Hundreds of Thousands of people in those parks the last few days, and only one confirmed case came “from” Disney. There were likely far more, but it could have been much worse
 
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Like I said, if they (Disney) don’t think they’re 100% ready, yes, they’ll wait after the OK from DeSantis until they are ready. They’re not going to be hasty in opening up just to open up, because they ARE image conscious. But they also know that they’re never going to please everyone. They never have, they never will. There are a lot of people that are loving the struggled position Disney is in right now and hope they never reopen, and they’ll be the first to claim Disney “re-opened too soon” without even knowing the steps Disney is taking for safety.

The media was chomping at the bit to find people from the final few days that Disney was open after making the closure announcement that became infected. They found one person, who was also at a conference in Orlando and said “He got it from Disney!”. Hundreds of Thousands of people in those parks the last few days, and only one confirmed case came “from” Disney. There were likely far more, but it could have been much worse

Do you have any evidence that people are “loving” the struggled position Disney is in now?
 

Also just to note.... Cruise line and the parks are different species. So don't automatically connect the actions of the two.

The chances any of the cruise lines restart this summer is pretty dire right now. So the cruise line extending cancellations is not a shocker.
I have little hope our October cruise will be a go. Cruising is a completely different beast.
The millions of people that dont post on Disney boards that think the company is nothing more than a greedy corporation.
There are plenty who post here that feel that way. lol
 
People think of Disney as a company that has unlimited money and resources. They charge $200 for a 1 day park hopper, so how could they possibly ever go broke? If you have 10,000 dollars and 30 dollars falls out of your pocket every day for 90 days, it adds up. You might not be living on the streets when you finally put your cash in the bank instead of keeping it in your pocket, but its still money lost. Terrible analogy, I know. But its the only one I could think of on the spot lol

Talk of Vaccine’s and continuous reports on the possibility of one is the only “good” news you see on news stations, thats why people cling on to it being an eventual reality rather than a distant possibility. How many times in the last month have we seen “(so and so) has made strides in finding a vaccine for COVID-19”. First it was Canadians that were “close”, then it was Johnson and Johnson that would have one by Fall 2020 and distributed in Spring 2021, now its Tom Hanks’ sample that will lead to a vaccine. People buy into it as an inevitability because its some of the only good news you’re receiving in a dark time like this. But the truth is, its far from inevitable, and more possible that we never get one.

Yep.

This is a tad off topic, but I think its important to the overall conversation. Many here are too young to remember the beginnings of the HIV epidemic. When HIV was identified back in 1984, the US government was confident they would have a vaccine within 2 years (sound familiar?) Well, fast forward to today....something like 40 different vaccines have been trialed, with no success. Tens of billions of dollars have been spent on research and treatment. Now, some wonderful medicines have been developed to allow those who contract HIV to, for the most part, live a decent life. Likewise, we identified how HIV was transmitted to help quell fears about it. Now, obviously HIV is a different type of virus than COVID-19, but the point remains the same...there may never be a vaccine. Which is why its important to me that we find a way to live with this disease....and if we find a vaccine, great! Finding a vaccine should be a goal, but not a roadblock to living life.

And your point about Disney's finances are correct. All their ships are in port. They have a couple of movies due out in the fall, but there isn't a movie currently in production. There is no live sporting events going on (Disney owns ESPN). And their biggest moneymaker, the parks, are closed for weeks. They've laid off CM's until they re-open, but lets consider the possibility some have floated that they will be closed until next year....that means suits will start getting axed. Imagineers. The people behind the scenes that really make WDW go. Even if they could financially survive that, the brain drain would be catastrophic.

So yes....they'll be open as soon as they can.
 
Does anyone have any factual information? Most info at this point is all speculation.

Here you go..

Both Donald and Daisy Duck made their first screen appearances in the month of June, 1934 and 1940 respectively. Specifically, the anniversary dates are June 7th for Daisy and the 9th for Donald. For this reason, WDW will be open in June.
 
BTW, the gov of Ohio is currently laying out his reopening procedures. Just something interesting to look at as he was one of the first to lock down and been considered one of the better governors to lead the charge against the virus.

May 1- Dentists and Vets can open, and all outpaitent health procedures

May 4 Construction and Manufacturing can open up

May 12 Retail can reopen (unsure if restaurants are included in this, he didn't make any mention)

Five protocols for all businesses to open up:
1. Require all employees AND customers to have face coverings at all times.
2. Daily health assessments.
3. Hand washing/social distancing
4. Sanitizing daily
5. No more than 50% of the fire code of capacity.

He’s done a very good job despite heavy political pressure.
 
The millions of people that dont post on Disney boards that think the company is nothing more than a greedy corporation.
Except that like most “greedy” corporations the every day wage employee is who will suffer the most. The ppl at the top will be on.
 
Except that like most “greedy” corporations the every day wage employee is who will suffer the most. The ppl at the top will be on.

I don’t disagree. In the end, Disney will be fine, especially once the ball gets rolling on re-opening while their employees will be digging themselves out of a hole for a while. But without pointing out the members at the top of the food chain at Disney, they have done a pretty good job with their lower level employees during this, with all things considered.
 
As far as Disney opening as soon as FL does or not, didn't Disney announce WDW closure weeks before Gov. DeSantis issued his stay-at-home/closure order, and some time before Orange and Osceola Conties issued theirs?
 
As far as Disney opening as soon as FL does or not, didn't Disney announce WDW closure weeks before Gov. DeSantis issued his stay-at-home/closure order, and some time before Orange and Osceola Conties issued theirs?

Yes. I think there’s a fundamental difference between those who think closures are mostly a result of government mandates and those who think they are mostly a result of market/PR/medical determinations. Those who subscribe to the former are likely to think Disney and other businesses will open as soon as they are allowed. Those who subscribe to the latter see this as being a much longer, more drawn out recovery, with many businesses and events remaining closed/cancelled for months after they can legally go on.
 
Yes. I think there’s a fundamental difference between those who think closures are mostly a result of government mandates and those who think they are mostly a result of market/PR/medical determinations. Those who subscribe to the former are likely to think Disney and other businesses will open as soon as they are allowed. Those who subscribe to the latter see this as being a much longer, more drawn out recovery, with many businesses and events remaining closed/cancelled for months after they can legally go on.

For many businesses, it'll become a financial issue eventually if it isn't already.
 
For many businesses, it'll become a financial issue eventually if it isn't already.

No doubt, that’ll be the main factor driving the re-openings that will happen. I think most companies will weigh whether to open to what’s likely to be significantly lower revenue because the financial concerns still trump all others. A lot of businesses will see that as necessary and will open, and I think a fair amount won’t (yet). I’m really not sure where Disney will come down. For example, if Disney thinks it can open the parks at a significant profit, I think they’ll do it ASAP. If they think attendance will be low enough that they are still losing $10 million per day, vs the $30 million per day they are losing now, it’s a much tougher determination when you add in the PR factor etc.
 
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