Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[mattpeto]

And large parts of the rest of the world now well into the 2nd wave, which is looking like it will be worse than the first even with m's and other measures in place.

Yup.

Vaccine steers us back to normal.

 

[LSUmiss]

He also removed any penalties for not wearing the M word. Disney is a private company and doesn’t impact them.

So does this mean that OC or any county can’t have a mask mandate even if they want to?

 

[Disney Bobby]

And large parts of the rest of the world now well into the 2nd wave, which is looking like it will be worse than the first even with m's and other measures in place.

That doesn't make sense. How could it be worse if they have protects in place now?

 

[SaintsManiac]

If the hospitals are ok and people want to go out, they should be able to do so without restrictions. The goal of these shutdowns was to flatten the curve and protect the hospitals from become overloaded. If those 2 factors change, then readdress. But everyone knows the deal now, so you can make your own decisions based on your individual circumstances.

Huh? Without restrictions? What do you mean?

 

[sullivan.kscott]

So what happened to the CMs? Were some laid off? Were their hours cut? Or is Disney just eating the extra cost?

How are they affected?

Capacity/offerings and CM work status are intertwined.
Many CM are still furloughed. It is their contribution to the experience that makes WDW a truly magical place. The overwhelming majority take great pride in making memories for generations. Even through masks and face shields, their pride in what they do shines.
If WDW is able to increase capacity and offerings safely, and thereby bring an increased number of CM back to work, we will all be better for it.

 

[anthony2k7]

This Floridian is VERY worried about what this great big return to near normalcy will mean. Under Phase 3, employers of all types are urged to resume normal operations with limited social distancing and limit telework - this isn't just about adding capacity to restaurants. I fear another big surge is coming.

But in regard to WDW, I still won't do any indoor dining, so no change for me there. But I did not cancel my AP because I was comfortable with how WDW has reduced capacity, its mask mandate, and its adherence with social distancing protocols. I absolutely will not visit if they increase park capacity to a point where safety is a major issue, and you bet I'll be demanding a refund of some type on my AP. I don't think they will, though. I hope they don't.

In the uk we were urged to get back to normal just over a month ago. Gov even paid basically half our restaurant bills to encourage us all to go out and eat out as well as return to offices. Now we have higher daily cases than 1st wave and measures in place basically amounting to another lockdown.

 

[Farro]

If the hospitals are ok and people want to go out, they should be able to do so without restrictions. The goal of these shutdowns was to flatten the curve and protect the hospitals from become overloaded. If those 2 factors change, then readdress. But everyone knows the deal now, so you can make your own decisions based on your individual circumstances.

And large parts of the rest of the world now well into the 2nd wave, which is looking like it will be worse than the first even with m's and other measures in place.

That doesn't make sense. How could it be worse if they have protects in place now?

What does this have to do with the discussion of Disney possibly increasing capacity?

 

[anthony2k7]

Obviously you need to do what you are comfortable with.

But I do question why you think you would be deserving of a refund on your AP if Disney (safely under whatever standards they are using) increases capacity to a point that you don't feel comfortable going? That would be your decision to not use your AP, not a decision made by Disney.

They aren't going to just start letting in throngs of people...

"Comfortable".

 

[Farro]

"Comfortable".

Feel free to choose any word you'd like:

Similar and opposite words
comfortable
adjective

cozy snug warm pleasant enjoyable agreeable congenial plush well furnished sheltered secure safe restful
home-like homely comfy snuggly




From Oxford Languages

 

[anthony2k7]

The good news is the pandemic is no longer an epidemic (cases are not sharply rising in most places, especially Florida).

That simply isn't true.

 

[Pyotr]

So does this mean that OC or any county can’t have a mask mandate even if they want to?

They can have one, just can’t enforce any kind of penalty for disobeying it.

 

[anthony2k7]

Yup.

Vaccine steers us back to normal.

Hopefully. Eventually.

 

[mattpeto]

Didn't an executive from Disney make a public statement recently that the current WDW are pretty much what it's going to look like until there's a widespread vaccine?

Not an Exec, this was the closest thing I found:

https://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2020...ine-to-exist-to-return-to-regular-operations/

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I read that. It's disappointing to say the least.

We arrive 4/28 - 5/7 and I'm starting to think it won't be open. Which sucks and quite frankly is kind of annoying if it still isn't open by then.

we just booked a place for a stay 3/21 - 4/3 - we haven't gotten tickets or anything yet and not sure what we will do (or even if we will go - it is 100% refundable up to 24 hours prior) - but definitely will be watching Rat opening. If it is open that could push us to get WDW tickets otherwise we may do Universal (only other thing new since our last trip in MMRR, not sure that is enough)

 

[anthony2k7]

That doesn't make sense. How could it be worse if they have protects in place now?

No idea. But it seems to be happening.

The fact that many countries went into a full hard lockdown first time, but this time trying to keep everything open just with m's and a few other minor measures in public spaces is definitely part of it though.

Uk gov seems to think if they ban people visiting other peoples homes (so no seeing friends and family) then they can keep the economy running. So you cant go see parents at their home, but can go to pubs with hundreds of others.

 

[chicagoshannon]

So does this mean that OC or any county can’t have a mask mandate even if they want to?

From what I've read it just means they can't fine or jail people for not wearing them. Private businesses can still deny entry if they want. The discrimination line might be even finer now though.

 

[Tigger's ally]

Most risky situation, now with no mitigation at all. Ridiculous.

I was waiting for this.

 

[Farro]

we just booked a place for a stay 3/21 - 4/3 - we haven't gotten tickets or anything yet and not sure what we will do (or even if we will go - it is 100% refundable up to 24 hours prior) - but definitely will be watching Rat opening. If it is open that could push us to get WDW tickets otherwise we may do Universal (only other thing new since our last trip in MMRR, not sure that is enough)

Luckily we have so much we haven't seen yet:

Galaxy's Edge
Toy Story Land
Railway
Never rode Frozen yet
I even missed FOP because I was sick last time!

So we still have a lot to see, even though I'm most looking forward to RAT!

 

[Sarahslay]

They keep running buses until everyone is out of the park. They stop the monorail, so you would probably have to walk from CR to MK, and you would be running the risk that everyone with an after hour reservation is already done and gone by the time you get there, in which case there would not be buses.

Well, I would never ride the monorail from CR to MK, that takes a

And will the security checkpoint on the walkway between CR and MK even be open?

That was something I thought about a little while after asking my initial question, would the walkway even be open? I'm probably just going to drive and just have one drink at the beginning of the meal (or make DH drive lol)

 

[TwoMisfits]

Capacity/offerings and CM work status are intertwined.
Many CM are still furloughed. It is their contribution to the experience that makes WDW a truly magical place. The overwhelming majority take great pride in making memories for generations. Even through masks and face shields, their pride in what they do shines.
If WDW is able to increase capacity and offerings safely, and thereby bring an increased number of CM back to work, we will all be better for it.

Actually, I think this fact is the key to how fast Disney reopens offerings and increases capacity...

Originally, everyone expected a late summer/early fall Covid bill to help employers for the next 6 months of keeping their employees home (since the March one helped the 1st 6 months). And as of now, that expectation has 100% changed, since no one in office in any party seems particularly motivated to do so (that's not a statement on "should they do it...it's a statement of what is"). So, employers can no longer keep employees on the unemployment system to carry, since they are now 6 months+ on the unemployment system and running out of benefits, so companies will start to lose those employees permanently if they don't bring them back.

To bring them back, Disney needs more customers...to get more customers, they need to keep increasing capacity and the pleasantness/completeness of the experience...