Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[MoeJ]

I think "locals" is a matter of interpretation... to me, I'm kind of local, in that I'm only a 3-hour drive to Orlando. People in Tampa/St. Pete are what? 1.5 hours? Then you have Tallahassee, Jacksonville, Ft. Myers, etc.

"Locals", IMO, doesn't neccessarily just mean people who live in the greater Orlando area.

 

[LSUmiss]

So Florida businesses will only be open to locals for several months or however long it takes to get to phase 3? In all seriousness, because I don't know the answer, is that possible? I thought people have the constitutional right to travel between the states, so how would it work for businesses to deny customers who reside elsewhere? I don't picture the parks opening if only Florida residents are permitted entry.

I am wondering if they just don’t plan to open hotels at first. Imo that would be the only way to limit it.

 

[LSUmiss]

My take on the conference call this morning was for phase 2 they were going to be "marketing" FOR LOCALS. Wanting the locals to visit different parts of the state for "staycations"

That was my take at least. I dont see a way FL would be able to enforce ONLY locals going into shops, restaurants, etc...

Disney I guess COULD find a way but......

This is what our lt gov said a few days ago. That they would be encouraging staycations throughout our state asking Louisiana residents to help support the state since it’ll take a big hit since tourism is such a part of our economy.

 

[CMac72]

No. Impossible to enforce. And probably very few non-locals are going to be there when Disney first opens anyway given non locals have to travel to Orlando to go to WDW...

Well, we are a family of non-locals and we would be driving, avoiding the airport. Also, we are not coming from a hot spot. We had to rebook for May 30th as our March trip was cancelled. Then we had to adjust that to June 1st not long afterwards. I have very little hope that we be able to keep this lastest booking and will be moving it again. We would be ok with an abbreviated experience if not all parks/attractions are open. We have two preschoolers that would be making their first trip. They have no big expectations like the rest of us do and it would be nice to have a trip where we could stretch out our activities over the course of a week.

 

[karen4546]

May 23rd would be the expiration date if it doesn't get extended
Like ive said before everything it's very fluent, the order could be extended, cancelled or end at 60 days. The nurses contracts are through the end of may

No, It says it expires when the 20-52 expires, right?

 

[Moliphino]

I just got an email that my May trip is impacted by the closure (16-24). There are still park hours showing for those days, so I'm not sure where their cutoff dates are now. Everything is still showing in MDE (resort, ADRs, FP+).

 

[yulilin3]

No, It says it expires when the 2052 expires. right?

you're right, it does say 2052 which was enacted on March 9th. I guess we'll find out soon. Like I said before the nurses contracts got extended tothe last week of May.
I'll ask the Florida health dept guy tomorrow and see if he has a clear answer

 

[karen4546]

you're right, it does say 2052 which was enacted on March 9th. I guess we'll find out soon. Like I said before the nurses contracts got extended tothe last week of May.
I'll ask the Florida health dept guy tomorrow and see if he has a clear answer

I doubt anyone has a clear answer for a while and my May trip is probably just a pipe dream. But please let us know what you can find out. thanks, Yuliln3

 

[gatechfan99]

I don't see how they would only open the resort to Florida residents. I live in Alabama, 30 minutes from the Florida border and drive to Disney every trip. I'm also a DVC owner so if I have a reservation, how would they have the legal right from barring me from entering something that is open to others and I am an equal owner?

They've also got to think through the perception and how they treat their customers with all this? No matter how it is explained, there would still be people confused and show up from out of state and would have to be turned away at the gate. How is that going to look? Same with requiring testing to enter the parks or resorts. An extended family of 10 has flown from Seattle but is turned away at the gates because Little Johnny is found to be an asymptomatic carrier of Covid? Or better yet, a false positive? I've seen people lose their minds when they get turned away early from the Fastpass line. How do you think these issues would play out?

 

[rpb718]

They can close doors, they do this at the end of the night to make people come on through one door and exit another

Fire department would have a say in this depending on how many folks are allowed in the store. They'd probably all need to be exits at least. The problem is someone can come in the exit when someone leaves the store and opens it.

 

[yulilin3]

Fire department would have a say in this depending on how many folks are allowed in the store. They'd probably all need to be exits at least. The problem is someone can come in the exit when someone leaves the store and opens it.

When they do this at closing time there's a cm stationed at each of the "locked" doors, but yes they are set to exit only

 

[FCDub]

I don't see how they would only open the resort to Florida residents. I live in Alabama, 30 minutes from the Florida border and drive to Disney every trip. I'm also a DVC owner so if I have a reservation, how would they have the legal right from barring me from entering something that is open to others and I am an equal owner?

They've also got to think through the perception and how they treat their customers with all this? No matter how it is explained, there would still be people confused and show up from out of state and would have to be turned away at the gate. How is that going to look? Same with requiring testing to enter the parks or resorts. An extended family of 10 has flown from Seattle but is turned away at the gates because Little Johnny is found to be an asymptomatic carrier of Covid? Or better yet, a false positive? I've seen people lose their minds when they get turned away early from the Fastpass line. How do you think these issues would play out?

why not wait until there’s an actual announcement before concocting what-if scenarios?

 

[UOAP]

Just like it happens today in grocery stores during stay at home orders, if that concerns you wear a mask, at some point people have to take personal responsibility to live and function in society.

But the store also bears responsibility, because it is bad PR to be the source of a spike. Remember, this isn't like being obese. It affects more than just the individual.

 

[gatechfan99]

why not wait until there’s an actual announcement before concocting what-if scenarios?

Couldn't you say that for the entire 271 page thread of this? The whole point is thinking through what-if scenarios and whether they are realistic or not.

 

[UOAP]

I don't see how they would only open the resort to Florida residents. I live in Alabama, 30 minutes from the Florida border and drive to Disney every trip. I'm also a DVC owner so if I have a reservation, how would they have the legal right from barring me from entering something that is open to others and I am an equal owner?

They've also got to think through the perception and how they treat their customers with all this? No matter how it is explained, there would still be people confused and show up from out of state and would have to be turned away at the gate. How is that going to look? Same with requiring testing to enter the parks or resorts. An extended family of 10 has flown from Seattle but is turned away at the gates because Little Johnny is found to be an asymptomatic carrier of Covid? Or better yet, a false positive? I've seen people lose their minds when they get turned away early from the Fastpass line. How do you think these issues would play out?

These are all really important questions. Perhaps they could require proof of recent negative test or positive antibody which people would need to get before they went, with liberal cancellation policies.

 

[Lewisc]

Fire department would have a say in this depending on how many folks are allowed in the store. They'd probably all need to be exits at least. The problem is someone can come in the exit when someone leaves the store and opens it.

You can have alarmed fire exit only doors. You can have CMs stationed by doors to enforce exit only policy

 

[HuskieJohn]

I just got an email that my May trip is impacted by the closure (16-24). There are still park hours showing for those days, so I'm not sure where their cutoff dates are now. Everything is still showing in MDE (resort, ADRs, FP+).

What resort are you booked for?

 

[jerry557]

These are all really important questions. Perhaps they could require proof of recent negative test or positive antibody which people would need to get before they went, with liberal cancellation policies.

That's only a viable option if the tests are readily available and anyone can easily get one. Right now, they won't give you a test unless you show specific symptoms. And the antibody test hasn't been approved by the FDA yet.

 

[rpb718]

You can have alarmed fire exit only doors. You can have CMs stationed by doors to enforce exit only policy

Well any alarms would be going off constantly due to folks not paying attention. Otherwise they would require more CM staff working then they would have normally used in the store to staff some store exits. So far a lot of the suggestions for what WDW needs to do requires higher staffing levels than they might have at the start. If they limit the number of folks in the store, they wouldn't need as many cashiers but the lines for the few cashiers would be long so customer throughput would be slow and sales would plummet.

What they should do is have sample product in the stores and folks use their phone to scan a code or use their magic band to select and buy it for pick up later (or delivery to their room if staying onsite). Or have setups for self check-outs like grocery stores, only they can't leave with the items - all items would need to be picked up later.

 

[mshanson3121]

I don't see how they would only open the resort to Florida residents. I live in Alabama, 30 minutes from the Florida border and drive to Disney every trip. I'm also a DVC owner so if I have a reservation, how would they have the legal right from barring me from entering something that is open to others and I am an equal owner?

Easily. They state: only open to Florida residents. You already have to provide your address when you buy tickets, book a room etc... so it's extremely simple. Don't have a Florida address, you can't book/buy tickets etc...

As far as DVC, maybe it would be Florida residents and DVC owners.